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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    Yet the standard of living in the 50s was better than it is now explain that one to me
    There won't be a discussion about this.
    The needle can't be moved for some people.
    I don't know what the answer is but I know it's not more government debt, rising corporate profit and 26 people owning 90% of the countries wealth.
    My aunt went to nursing school in 1970 for free, that same school is charging 52k (no dorm, in state tuition and costs)for the same exact piece of paper. Something is wrong in that picture.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    Yet the standard of living in the 50s was better than it is now explain that one to me
    The standard of living was lower in 1950 and thus less expensive. One would expect to pay more for a 2,600 sq ft home than a 1000 sq ft home. One would expect to pay more for a digital cellphone with internet access for each member of the household than a single analog land line with only voice capability.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    I realize many on the right are going to kneejerk on this issue but hear this guy out, read the article and see if we can't move a needle just a tiny bit.

    Thing is, I do remember the 50s and when a man could support a family of four where his wife did not have to work -- he could pay the mortgage the car payment and have disposable income and the tax structure was roughly about where AOC is proposing it. but according to this author, and I agree, it's about more than that. One thing I have noticed that our standard of living has decreased rather proportionally to the chipping away of the progressive tax system of the 50s. I think it's time that we should take a good look on if we should go back to the way things were at least insofar as a tax structure.



    The world is becoming a place ruled by oligarchs and it's time to think about a solution
    Its called capitalism. People have a right to accumulate capital, and the purpose of taxation is not social or economic equality. Its to pay for the protection of life and liberty. Any attempt to force one person to pay more for the same services is inherently unfair and unjust.

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    Another person pining for the 1950's, where real men didn't have to compete with blacks and women. And nearly everyone in a gray flannel suit had a haberdasher and a milliner and pretty much no one had a credit card--including the government.
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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Another person pining for the 1950's, where real men didn't have to compete with blacks and women. And nearly everyone in a gray flannel suit had a haberdasher and a milliner and pretty much no one had a credit card--including the government.
    Some of that sounds ok...

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    I realize many on the right are going to kneejerk on this issue but hear this guy out, read the article and see if we can't move a needle just a tiny bit.

    Thing is, I do remember the 50s and when a man could support a family of four where his wife did not have to work -- he could pay the mortgage the car payment and have disposable income and the tax structure was roughly about where AOC is proposing it. but according to this author, and I agree, it's about more than that. One thing I have noticed that our standard of living has decreased rather proportionally to the chipping away of the progressive tax system of the 50s. I think it's time that we should take a good look on if we should go back to the way things were at least insofar as a tax structure.



    The world is becoming a place ruled by oligarchs and it's time to think about a solution
    If we were still making 1950 wages and it required you to work more hours for the same items you get today for working less then yea i guess.
    the fact is that you want more and more and higher and higher wages. this increases the cost of good and items. people making more money
    also means they can pay more for things like housing.

    in 1950 the median house price was 7k dollars. now it is about 130k.
    also the average sq foot was 983. now it is about 2,500.

    So much of the rise in home pricing comes from expanded space, updated building codes requirements (they don't build homes like they did in the 50's).

    the progressive tax system of the 1950's was a myth. no one paid those obscene rates. why? the number of tax write-offs were huge.
    you could write off pretty much anything and everything.

    You cannot tax your way to prosperity and you cannot tax your way to make other people more well off.
    What you can do is set laws that makes it more incentive for companies to pay workers better.
    re-writing corporate tax law that favors more incentives to pay workers more vs investors and executives.


    but doing such things don't register with liberals. corporations are evil and everything should be beholden to government for everything.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    I realize many on the right are going to kneejerk on this issue but hear this guy out, read the article and see if we can't move a needle just a tiny bit.

    Thing is, I do remember the 50s and when a man could support a family of four where his wife did not have to work -- he could pay the mortgage the car payment and have disposable income and the tax structure was roughly about where AOC is proposing it. but according to this author, and I agree, it's about more than that. One thing I have noticed that our standard of living has decreased rather proportionally to the chipping away of the progressive tax system of the 50s. I think it's time that we should take a good look on if we should go back to the way things were at least insofar as a tax structure.



    The world is becoming a place ruled by oligarchs and it's time to think about a solution
    AOC is a ****ing moron, and there is no hear anything she blathers about out. She and her type get their way, it won't be the RICH getting soaked, people need to wake the **** up. Her ideas and those of people like her are not going to end well.
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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

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    Exhibit A
    Thank you, that was a nice way to start the day!

    Oh and I'm guessing exhibit C...

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezís Tax Hike Idea Is Not About Soaking the Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Some of that sounds ok...
    I'm inclined to agree with you 42%...
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