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[W:123]ANTIFA goons plan protest at Covington Catholic High

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That's because Antifa are anarchist or communist. Either way, they are an extremist fringe group and no friends to anyone, certainly not Dems or liberals, as evidenced by the fact that they routinely attack liberals, too.

Now, with Charlottesville way off in the rear view mirror, they're desperately searching for relevancy.

Well, they're carrying the torch;)
 
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Problem is they are showing screen caps of the website and twitter feeds. I'm sure they are the only ones talking about it because the major media lost their story about evil kids in red hats and white skin. Probably won't be any coverage because of the skin color of the victims. But that doesn't mean it's not all over the crazy group's website and feed.
Let’s see if anything happens tomorrow. Likely nothing at all, or only a few loons with no lives who are dealt with easily and swiftly by local PD.
 
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And the media are complicit in spreading disinformation via a heavily edited video, because stirring unrest makes them money. This is a dangerous situation. Look how they fanned the flames concerning confederate statues, which resulted in a fatality.

Yep, a Right Winger probably will kill someone again.
 
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Gosh I love irony. Red MAGA hats showing your face= bad. Black balaclava and pick-your-favorite-color scarf to cover your face= good.
 
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That's a stupid thing to say even for you.:roll:

Actually not really.
Number of things I agree with Fishking on: ZERO
Number of things I agree with Fishking on as of 4:39 PM: ONE!

Antifa are worthless cowards, and even though, in the past, one or two very loud and messy anarchist groups have actually managed to transition to a position of leadership, there's no hope or evidence that Antifa ever will, because it is not something they're interested in. They're only interested in attacking and destroying anything that isn't them.

What??? Name an anarchist group that actually did something worthwhile once they got any positive attention?
To my memory: TWO

ActUP! Code Pink.

Both are now actually attempting to take a seat at the table. Both groups deserve a lot of credit for bringing marriage equality to the forefront, even if they did it in a very messy way.

Antifa? Not a chance...ever.

Thank you Fishking. Spot on.
 
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Let’s see if anything happens tomorrow. Likely nothing at all, or only a few loons with no lives who are dealt with easily and swiftly by local PD.

Antifa can crawl out of the woodwork at the flick of a light switch. They'll be there.
 
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Antifa thugs. NAs who falsely accuse white boys of being racist beasts. What could go wrong?

Showing up to basketball games in blackface is apparently tolerated at the school. It's not exactly a leap.
 
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Actually not really.
Number of things I agree with Fishking on: ZERO
Number of things I agree with Fishking on as of 4:39 PM: ONE!

Antifa are worthless cowards, and even though, in the past, one or two very loud and messy anarchist groups have actually managed to transition to a position of leadership, there's no hope or evidence that Antifa ever will, because it is not something they're interested in. They're only interested in attacking and destroying anything that isn't them.

What??? Name an anarchist group that actually did something worthwhile once they got any positive attention?
To my memory: TWO

ActUP! Code Pink.

Both are now actually attempting to take a seat at the table. Both groups deserve a lot of credit for bringing marriage equality to the forefront, even if they did it in a very messy way.

Antifa? Not a chance...ever.

Thank you Fishking. Spot on.

I wasn't defending antifa, it's just silly to say that they've been given a green light to loot and pilliage liberal cities that's BS.
 
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Let’s see if anything happens tomorrow. Likely nothing at all, or only a few loons with no lives who are dealt with easily and swiftly by local PD.

I'm inclined to agree with your prediction. However, these kids have had their lives threatened, their privacy invaded, and personal information shared. Violence against these kids has had rewards offered. All this because the media was so quick to paint a smirking kid in a red hat as the worst criminal in town.

I think the fact that they are planning a protest at all should be newsworthy to the same outlets that got so hot and bothered just 24 hours ago.
 
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Showing up to basketball games in blackface is apparently tolerated at the school. It's not exactly a leap.

Here we go with the leaps of logic. Go look up "blackout pep rallies".
 
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I'm inclined to agree with your prediction. However, these kids have had their lives threatened, their privacy invaded, and personal information shared. Violence against these kids has had rewards offered. All this because the media was so quick to paint a smirking kid in a red hat as the worst criminal in town.

I think the fact that they are planning a protest at all should be newsworthy to the same outlets that got so hot and bothered just 24 hours ago.

I'd err on the side of increasing security at the school for the foreseeable future and frankly, if my kid was doxxed, I think I'd keep them at home for a bit.
 
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Yeah, been a while since anyone in the Dem party has given them any credit for anything. Still, they base their views off that party

They have been attempting to do that ever since the WTO crap in the Seattle area in the 90's.
When they succeeded at making Occupy look violent (Occupy is at fault for that) they realized that they should double down.

How is it Occupy's fault? Simple:

"Occupy is a LEADERLESS MOVEMENT"
Read the Google Search and notice how many times that gets repeated, if you can control your laughter.

You might as well bend over and pull your pants down if you say that too many times.
Leaderless movements GET LEADERS very quickly, often times not the kind of leaders they want.
Absolute stupidity....Antifa came in and took over and that is when you started seeing stories of violence.

Leaderless movement is a contradiction in terms, just like Teresa Shook's alternate term "decentralized leadership" when she used it to make lame excuses for the incredible flop of the DC Women's March the other day.


So there you have it: LEADERLESS MOVEMENT or DECENTRALIZED LEADERSHIP, both are open invitations for scoundrels to take your cause away from you, GUARANTEED.
It is the one thing that the Left screws up with amazing consistency...this insistence that being a LEADER is somehow offensive.
And sane liberals are calling these idiots out for it.

So why did I go off on this tangent? To point out that Antifa are PARASITES and they go looking for wussy causes that lack leadership and they glom onto them and take them over, and then turn violent.
It is what they do.
 
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Here we go with the leaps of logic. Go look up "blackout pep rallies".

I know what a blackout pep rally is. They don't involve blackface with the white minstrel lips.
 
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So why did I go off on this tangent? To point out that Antifa are PARASITES and they go looking for wussy causes that lack leadership and they glom onto them and take them over, and then turn violent.
It is what they do.

You'll find no disagreement from me. You also won't find me putting Dems in the same group as a bunch of crazies. Just because a group of crazies stems from another group doesn't mean the REPRESENT that group.

I find the same problem when you absolutely reverse it and end up with the KKK. It's all the same BS and it's not fair to blame the folks who happen to share some basic principals. Especially when they have denounced them multiple times (I won't bother to search, but at least 20 major Dems have openly denounced ANTIFA and called for disbanding).
 
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I wasn't defending antifa, it's just silly to say that they've been given a green light to loot and pilliage liberal cities that's BS.

That's Fishking's stupid way of referring to it but you gotta cut him some slack for being at least half right.
Liberal cities don't give Antifa any green light, but it's just that Antifa happens to be attracted to big cities and liberal events because too many liberal causes exercise way too much political correctness for their own good.
SOME political correctness is great, it's called having good manners and being kind, but if you go too far, you're violating Karl Popper's Paradox of Tolerance and Antifa are expert at poking holes in Popper's Paradox, it's just that simple.
Antifa are predatory and too many far Left folks act like PREY!
 
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I find the same problem when you absolutely reverse it and end up with the KKK.

When I notice conservatives blasting Klan and Nazis, I know I'm looking at or hearing a rational conservative.
I'll even go so far as to say when I don't see them defending them, I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, even if I disagree.
I'm sure that I have failed in that regard a few times, but I never said I was perfect ;)
 
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I'd err on the side of increasing security at the school for the foreseeable future and frankly, if my kid was doxxed, I think I'd keep them at home for a bit.

LOL, have you BEEN to Kentucky? I have.
They don't keep em at home, they hand them a pistol.
"Y'all be careful out there, boys...might be a few crazies running around after all that mess happened."
 
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This is one of the dangers with zealot reactions generating false stories or misrepresentations of alleged racism, sexism, etc..

It start's with "fake news" followed by, or founded on "twitterstorms" designed to scapegoat a target. This creates the proper levels of mass "anger" and "outrage" leading to "righteous action" against said target.

It is one of the things I fear most about our "information age" society, dependent on "Likes" and "Dislikes" to determine what is right and wrong; never realizing they can thereby be led by the nose like any old-school lynch mob.



I am 100% in agreement. Social media is increasingly being used as a weapon. Even if the target of the outrage actually did something wrong, the damage inflicted by the social media campaigns inevitably is disproportionate to the initial wrong committed. And when it does get out of hand, (leading to death threats and being fired and having to move) it can’t be turned off. It just grows and grows until a new target is identified.

Like you, it is one of my biggest fears for the future because it is only going to get worse.
 
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Some of them might get their asses shot.
Hate to say it but I will not feel the least bit of compassion for any of them that do.
Actually I don't hate to say it because I am not the one doing any shooting but I suspect a lot of Kentucky folks will be.
Don't mess with their kids.

Well...I would feel bad for them getting shot. I don't have any special feelings for them, to be sure, but I actually get sad anytime a life is ended prematurely. I just hope they get locked up and have to face the true reality that should've happened in all the other cases for instigating riots.
 
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I am 100% in agreement. Social media is increasingly being used as a weapon. Even if the target of the outrage actually did something wrong, the damage inflicted by the social media campaigns inevitably is disproportionate to the initial wrong committed. And when it does get out of hand, (leading to death threats and being fired and having to move) it can’t be turned off. It just grows and grows until a new target is identified.

Like you, it is one of my biggest fears for the future because it is only going to get worse.

Bill Maher's "New Rule" (*one of them anyway)

"You do not have the right to be MORE offended than the person or group being offended."

One of his other BRILLIANT memes:

"Politcal correctness is the elevation of sensitivity over truth."

Now you understand why I like Bill Maher.
 
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When I notice conservatives blasting Klan and Nazis, I know I'm looking at or hearing a rational conservative.
I'll even go so far as to say when I don't see them defending them, I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, even if I disagree.
I'm sure that I have failed in that regard a few times, but I never said I was perfect ;)

None of us are, tho I like to make jokes about how close I am :)

I'm actually really upset about the whole event because I want relations to be better and this is what I see as one of the worst enemies to that goal. The whole thing is ridiculous and serves no one. I wouldn't be honest if I didn't say the same any time a group of white pride jackasses or similar groups committed horrible atrocities. It cuts both ways and I just hate to see either side spreading easily caught lies and making it worse.

KKK and Nazis and "Confederate Pride" groups are abominations to human nature and you wont' find me defending them. On the same page, ANTIFA is newer and all, but showing the same tendencies. I'd love to see them all shut down.
 
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Well...I would feel bad for them getting shot. I don't have any special feelings for them, to be sure, but I actually get sad anytime a life is ended prematurely. I just hope they get locked up and have to face the true reality that should've happened in all the other cases for instigating riots.

I am not like you. Ever since I saw a few fellow news camera guys get beat within an inch of their lives and their cameras destroyed I have almost zero sympathy for these goons. And then when I saw graffiti and heard them yelling "Liberals get the bullet, too" that ended any chance that I would regard them as even human beings.

And that is also why when I notice people on the Right pinning Antifa violence on liberals, it just sounds absurd.
We're just as much a target because to them, we are traitors for not being communist.
 
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I want to be sure I understand your point before I respond. I don't want to mistake your position.

First, this part 1:

I feel differently. I have to legally respect these individuals' right to 1st A expression, but I'm dead against what they're doing. I'm against people acting like a-holes, regardless of legality. And I believe since Trump's in office, we are seeing more a-holish behavior everyday.

This appears to mean, in the context of this thread, that you don't think ANTIFA should protest, because they do act like a-holes when they do. Am I reading that part correctly?

Then there is this part 2:

It's not enough (for me) to be merely "legal". One has to be right. And that kid wasn't right in any of the videos, regardless of the others' wrongs.

Now this could mean that ANTIFA is not "right" to protest the school even though it is legal to do so. However, when taken with the part about the "kid in the video" (assuming it was the smiling kid) I am confused about how it applies to part 1 quoted above. Could you clarify?

Part 3 seems to be clear enough standing alone.:

(As an aside, I'd like to know who was the idiot that gave the kids the go-ahead to chant the school sports song in response to the other crowds; brilliant!)

Well, having been a High School teacher for a couple-or-so years while working on my first graduate degree, I chaperoned a few events involving sports teams or other student organizations on field trips.

I can see the school chaperones, hearing some of the things the Black Hebrews were spouting, authorizing the kids to respond with school cheers/chants. It's pretty standard at sports events between rival crowds, not only giving the kids a non-offensive way to respond but also redirecting some of their energy toward "school spirit" and away from other actions.
 
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I mean how ****ing far gone do you have to be in order to think MLK would be remotely ok with that.

Did you watch the video in its entirety?

Apparently not.

A Black group of demonstrators was hurling racial slurs at the students from Covington Catholic. You can hear it on the video.

Would MLK be OK with that?

The irrefutable fact that the Black demonstrators were hurling racial slurs at the students is the whole entire reason Nathan Phillips voluntarily of his own free will walked away from the group he was demonstrating with and approached the students.

Phillips approached the wrong group. He should have approached the Blacks, invaded their personal face, and got in their faces and chanted and beat his drum.

Of course, had he done that, they would have probably assaulted him, so Phillips took the easy way out.

As for myself, PTSD or not, I never tolerate anyone invading my personal space. I would of course, take a step back, but if the aggressor stepped forward, and that's what Phillips was -- an aggressor, they'd get a two-handed arm shiver, and then escalate from there if necessary.
 
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