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Could some democrat please take Pelosi aside

At first I thought your post was nonsense but then after thinking about it, you are right. The left does want to take citizen's guns away, they do want to rob the rich to give to the poor, and they do want gayness to be very acceptable everywhere, including young children to change genders and dress in opposite sex clothing. While these later things shouldn't be discriminated against, they should also not be accepted as normal behavior and encouraged.


You're confusing live and let live, a compassionate concept, with promoting a particular lifestyle.

You're confusing rational gun control with eliminating guns.

You're confusing prevention of exploitation of the middle class and poor by the rich as robin hoodism.

But confused repubs is nothing new.

Repubs love their strawmen.
 
Wifey, same thing. 100% service connected Navy.

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The VA itself is funded but anything that the VA needs that involves outside contractors is not at this time.

To boot, my mother-in-law was an OT at the VA. She's a huge Rachel Maddow fan. If my father-in-law is even thinking about whether or not to vote in 2018, that's out the window :lol:
 
Oh FFS, stop with the bullying victimology. Pelosi is speaker of the house and as of yet made no counter offer. She has failed to negotiate.


You dont' negotiate with extortionists, for to do so they will do it again by a guy like Trump, who has no compassion for 800,000 people who will lose their pay everytime he does it.
 
We are currently about to be in a position where we will be in need of home health care aide services due to the fact that my disabled Navy veteran wife is sick again, AND my son is also at UCLA Hospital with a pretty severe case of congestive heart failure.
Being that it's a two hour drive to UCLA sometimes, and being that my wife's mobility may not be possible sometimes while our son is so ill, we will need that kind of services, which are contracted out by the government to private companies.

But I guess we shouldn't mind if my son becomes critical and we can't make it to the hospital. He can just die alone, no problem.

Think I am joking? I'm not, I assure you. I thought about keeping this to myself but screw it, people need to see the stupidity of shutting down the government firsthand.

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We might not be able to get the kind of help we need, which the VA is happy to cover, if there isn't any way to pay the needed contract personnel.



I am so sorry to hear of these troubles that have befallen your family. I will refrain from comment on the politics involved, you all know where I stand. I pray for some easement of your loved ones and healing over all.

And good on you for laying it out. Some people need to know about individuals whose lives are being hampered.
 
We are currently about to be in a position where we will be in need of home health care aide services due to the fact that my disabled Navy veteran wife is sick again, AND my son is also at UCLA Hospital with a pretty severe case of congestive heart failure.
Being that it's a two hour drive to UCLA sometimes, and being that my wife's mobility may not be possible sometimes while our son is so ill, we will need that kind of services, which are contracted out by the government to private companies.

But I guess we shouldn't mind if my son becomes critical and we can't make it to the hospital. He can just die alone, no problem.

Think I am joking? I'm not, I assure you. I thought about keeping this to myself but screw it, people need to see the stupidity of shutting down the government firsthand.

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We might not be able to get the kind of help we need, which the VA is happy to cover, if there isn't any way to pay the needed contract personnel.

**** Trump. **** these Republican "freedom caucus" POS losers who don't care about anybody except their super PACs. In my neighborhood, we take care of our own, I guess that's not how it works in Trump's world. They take care of their millionaires, their billionaires, their Fox and Friends, their Limbaugh's and Hannity's and their big industry lobbyists poisoning the water, destroying the Earth and making a mockery of this country by creating fake controversies so nobody pays attention.

I don't know you, but I'd be right there for you, because I get it. Unlike some people posting right in this forum, I get it. I feel for you, and I feel anger and sadness for the pain being inflicted on innocent Americans in the name of yet another symbol of division.
 
I am so sorry to hear of these troubles that have befallen your family. I will refrain from comment on the politics involved, you all know where I stand. I pray for some easement of your loved ones and healing over all.

And good on you for laying it out. Some people need to know about individuals whose lives are being hampered.

You're a better man than me.
 
Could some half way intelligent democrat please take Pelois aside and explain one fact to her. They need to explain to her how a compromise works. They also need to tell her no matter how pig headed she is she is not going to get everything her way.

Oh, I forgot this one: you know what Americans love? You hit Pelosi and she hits back 10 times harder. You all love that line, right? Right? Isn't that something you praised Trump for? What happened to that?
 
She has no power. She has abrogated her responsibility to fund the Government. Democrats are why it is shut down. She needs to get off the dime and do what we pay her to do.



She has no power?

Ah....the government is shut down. That takes some serious horsepower.
She has NO responsibility to fund anything in government, she has the responsibility of ensuring taxpayers funds are used appropriately.

Two the Democrats havew NOTHING to do with the shut down, it's Trump's baby all the way, or have you conveniently forgotten that Trump the stump BRAGGED he'd be "proud to shut down the government" Now you say he didn't even do that, so are all of his boasts that empty?

Three, she is not on any dime, whatever the **** that means, as "she" and the Republicans HAD A CONFIRMED deal that Trump backed out of.

So instead of wasting your time bitching about a woman who you say has no power, take a look at who is actually responsible for the temper tantrum that is strangling the country.

What a bunch of bozos...you can't even pay the ****ing bills and instead of fixing it, you all simply hurl insults at one another and propagate more lies.

And you wonder how the **** countries like Canada, Australia, France, Ireland etc. are surpassing the US in lifestyles, health, the economy and education.

Could it have anything to do with the fact you all hate each other so much nothing gets done?
 
To boot, my mother-in-law was an OT at the VA. She's a huge Rachel Maddow fan. If my father-in-law is even thinking about whether or not to vote in 2018, that's out the window :lol:

The VA in Minneapolis? We went there for the 2005 National Veterans Wheelchair Games, and Karen got ill and despite being from Dallas (at the time, in 2005) we were able to zoom over there, get one of her old prescriptions refilled, pick up some supplies and BLAMMO, she was back on the mend in a day and a half and was able to return to competing in the games.

The Minneapolis VA SCI (Spinal Cord Injury) unit pulled up her records, talked to her doctor at the Dallas VA and knew exactly what to do for her. It took us less than two hours to get all this done.

She silver medaled in the 5K as if nothing happened.
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I am so sorry to hear of these troubles that have befallen your family. I will refrain from comment on the politics involved, you all know where I stand. I pray for some easement of your loved ones and healing over all.

And good on you for laying it out. Some people need to know about individuals whose lives are being hampered.

My son said, "Tell them, go ahead"...he used to not give a damn about politics but somewhere around 17 or eighteen (he's twenty three now) he started taking interest.
 
Hey, that was my joke. You stole it :)

Great minds think alike.
We who like to taunt low-functioning conservatives sometimes find ourselves repeating ourselves. But it's a rich source of humour, we'll continue to ridicule the conservative mindset.
 
You dont' negotiate with extortionists, for to do so they will do it again by a guy like Trump, who has no compassion for 800,000 people who will lose their pay everytime he does it.

I said before, if we give in, he will treat repeating shutdowns the way a fourteen year old boy treats his penis whenever a Playboy magazine is around...as in "all day long, every chance he gets."
 
**** Trump. **** these Republican "freedom caucus" POS losers who don't care about anybody except their super PACs. In my neighborhood, we take care of our own, I guess that's not how it works in Trump's world. They take care of their millionaires, their billionaires, their Fox and Friends, their Limbaugh's and Hannity's and their big industry lobbyists poisoning the water, destroying the Earth and making a mockery of this country by creating fake controversies so nobody pays attention.

I don't know you, but I'd be right there for you, because I get it. Unlike some people posting right in this forum, I get it. I feel for you, and I feel anger and sadness for the pain being inflicted on innocent Americans in the name of yet another symbol of division.

The only saving grace is if the West LA VA can find a way to accommodate her for temporary lodging if she gets too sick, because they can shuttle her the couple of miles back and forth between the VA and UCLA, it's right down the street.
We are in Whittier so our home base is the Long Beach VA.

It wouldn't surprise me if West LA steps up, because they might just have a spare room where she can get taken care of.
She broke her leg but she also got a pressure sore for the very first time in our twenty years together, and her kidney is acting up again for the umpteenth time. If her kidney settles down then all is good and we can do the back and forth.
If not, they have to either check her in at Long Beach or do the home health care thing, so we can travel back and forth to UCLA every other day. We have done the home care option once, where they sent someone to train us on how to infuse her, and they came by every other day to check up and change stuff around etc.

It's all up in the air but the point is, home care aides are private contractors and while most of them get money from the VA some of them do not, and it is confusing as Hell how it gets divvied up.

The government shutdown is going to start affecting A LOT of stuff that it hasn't affected yet, it is not a static situation.
It is very real for a lot of people.
 
My son said, "Tell them, go ahead"...he used to not give a damn about politics but somewhere around 17 or eighteen (he's twenty three now) he started taking interest.

I'd say that's called 'character'; they who challenge status quo thinking are the true captains of progress.
 
The VA in Minneapolis? We went there for the 2005 National Veterans Wheelchair Games, and Karen got ill and despite being from Dallas (at the time, in 2005) we were able to zoom over there, get one of her old prescriptions refilled, pick up some supplies and BLAMMO, she was back on the mend in a day and a half and was able to return to competing in the games.

The Minneapolis VA SCI (Spinal Cord Injury) unit pulled up her records, talked to her doctor at the Dallas VA and knew exactly what to do for her. It took us less than two hours to get all this done.

She silver medaled in the 5K as if nothing happened.
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Awesome!

Perhaps it relates to my own recovery from drug addiction, but my heart swells for people who, with determination, move forward with their lives, overcoming obstacles the rest of us cannot know. In my years in journalism I had occasion to interview and get to know a famous Canadian by the name of Rick Hansen who raised millions for spinal cord research with his round the globe "Man in Motion" tour..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Hansen

I finer gentleman I have not met. I have met some wheelchair tennis players and, no thanks, that's out of my league all together
 
Could some half way intelligent democrat please take Pelois aside and explain one fact to her. They need to explain to her how a compromise works. They also need to tell her no matter how pig headed she is she is not going to get everything her way.

Mitch shuts down Obama and he is a patriot..Pelosi says no and she is pig headed....the ****ing irony is thick...like a wall..on the border....
 
Awesome!

Perhaps it relates to my own recovery from drug addiction, but my heart swells for people who, with determination, move forward with their lives, overcoming obstacles the rest of us cannot know. In my years in journalism I had occasion to interview and get to know a famous Canadian by the name of Rick Hansen who raised millions for spinal cord research with his round the globe "Man in Motion" tour..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Hansen

I finer gentleman I have not met. I have met some wheelchair tennis players and, no thanks, that's out of my league all together

What's really awesome is the VA, because their Spinal Cord Injury unit is a hospital inside a hospital, and it not only takes spinal cord injury patients but also multiple sclerosis patients, which it considers "spinal cord disease".
MS-ers aren't spinal cord injury but in a technical sense, some of them are paraplegic or quadriplegic anyway, even if they still have sensation in their extremities.

An MS-er might not feel their feet but they might have sensation in their thighs or their calves, it is sometimes spotty, like a cow's markings. They might have full feeling in one foot and zero in the other, or they can move one foot slightly and the other foot might be as limp as wet spaghetti.

The VA takes care of their MS patients every bit as much as their regular spinal injury patients.
 
The VA in Minneapolis? We went there for the 2005 National Veterans Wheelchair Games, and Karen got ill and despite being from Dallas (at the time, in 2005) we were able to zoom over there, get one of her old prescriptions refilled, pick up some supplies and BLAMMO, she was back on the mend in a day and a half and was able to return to competing in the games.

The Minneapolis VA SCI (Spinal Cord Injury) unit pulled up her records, talked to her doctor at the Dallas VA and knew exactly what to do for her. It took us less than two hours to get all this done.

She silver medaled in the 5K as if nothing happened.
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That's awesome! I was in Dallas last Spring and I thought it was a beautiful city. Vivid, wonderful memories of walking up and down the park in the center of downtown and paying like $8 for an espresso at a restaurant with glass walls.

In Minneapolis, you come for the healthcare and stay for the weather. Or, you're stuck because of the weather. That's the only way I can justify how I wound up living here. Small world though, right?
 
That's awesome! I was in Dallas last Spring and I thought it was a beautiful city. Vivid, wonderful memories of walking up and down the park in the center of downtown and paying like $8 for an espresso at a restaurant with glass walls.

In Minneapolis, you come for the healthcare and stay for the weather. Or, you're stuck because of the weather. That's the only way I can justify how I wound up living here. Small world though, right?

I came to Minneapolis from the DC suburbs of Maryland as a very young man away from home for the first time in 1977.
It was like walking into a time warp because for all the modernity, in some ways, Minneapolis was still very much in the 1950's and Saint Paul was in the 1930's. People who had been born in the 1960's or later were "sort of" caught up with the two coasts, culturally speaking, maybe even ahead of CA and NY in some ways but folks born in the 40's and 50's were light years behind.

Downtown Minneapolis was an incredible head trip for me, the flophouses, the hardcore drinking bars, the old guys who still wore Dick Tracy clothing and talked like the old gangster movies, and I was to find out it was because real gangsters had been running the place not too much before I arrived there, the amazing Victorian homes everyone took for granted, the cops who didn't think twice about knocking the crap out of you if you mouthed off...but here is the amazing thing, they didn't maim you or kill you, they didn't shoot you. They just slapped you around pretty good. I never knew anything like that back home!

And the WINTER. Thank God I made friends quickly, they helped me view the harsh winters as an adventure, so I decided in my mind that it WAS an adventure. I willed myself to become a sort of "Hippie Minnesota Wilderness Man" and I wore a long fringe leather jacket with the long fringes and high boots and a wide brimmed leather hat. I bought my first guns. I went hunting and fishing, I even went ice fishing and suffered through that sitting in the little fish houses with old guys who thought it was funny to drink a lot of beer and then cut monster farts. I learned to winterize my 1967 Chevy C10 Stepside pickup the HARD WAY and never made those mistakes again.
And I finally got a part time gig playing piano in the Club Royale, now known as The Wabasha Street Caves.
I met dark haired young Ojibwe girls from Saint Paul with great big sad black eyes who worked as waitresses and fell in love at the drop of a hat, or the sound of Billy Joel. And eventually I wound up in a band.
A band with a rehearsal space the size of an entire city block for $250 a month.

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And I haven't even begun to talk about springtime, when the women bloomed like flowers in the desert at the first rain.
The lakes, the clean water, the incredible air, the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, the Iron Range bars where any blues band from the Twin Cities might as well be The Beatles or The Stones.

And the education and the health care...of course. And of course the bizarre summers, which outside of the Twin Cities featured mosquitoes so large that the FAA should have given them tail numbers.

Sorry I rambled, but there will always be a special place in my heart for the Twin Cities.
It was an incredible thrill to be a young man in Minneapolis if you had come from boring political DC.

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And I haven't even begun to talk about springtime, when the women bloomed like flowers in the desert at the first rain.
The lakes, the clean water, the incredible air, the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, the Iron Range bars where any blues band from the Twin Cities might as well be The Beatles or The Stones.

And the education and the health care...of course. And of course the bizarre summers, which outside of the Twin Cities featured mosquitoes so large that the FAA should have given them tail numbers.

Sorry I rambled, but there will always be a special place in my heart for the Twin Cities.
It was an incredible thrill to be a young man in Minneapolis if you had come from boring political DC.

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I love the Wabasha Street Caves. Yeah, Kid Cann and the Jewish Mafia had the run of the cities (along with Ma and Pa Baker) during the 30s and then the area we call the Warehouse district was adjacent to what was then the "Gateway district." My father and uncle used to share stories about their coming of age experiences there, which usually involved Colt 45 and a made up run in with Bob Dylan or at least the Triangle Bar. Somebody always told the story of the line from "you can't always get what you want" (when he's in line at the pharmacy) being derived from a show just north of Lake Minnetonka. I can't stand DC by the way. It's terrible. The food was supposed to be incredible but I had bad guides or guides with bad taste.

The summers here are great minus the mosquitoes and the lyme disease (I get it every three years). It's a great state. The winters are terrible, but I'll take 4 seasons over 2 (Texas/DC) any day. Plus, you don't get to see a band like that in every city. A band like that still exists and plays at a joint called Lee's Liquor Lounge on the regular. I wouldn't be surprised if it rings a bell. The singer center stage looks just like the girl in that band. It has nothing to do with this thread, but talking about America makes you realize it really is a great country, and no one politician can take that away.
 
It's gross that you're attempting to compare Trump to Reagan.

And Reagan, much as I admired him and miss him, had nothing to do with their release, which happened about 25 minutes after he took the oath of office. The negotiations for their release had been going on for quite some time, and Reagan was not involved.

I remember quite well, thank you very much, and what I remember was that all through the campaign Reagan promised that the hostages would be released or Iran would face the full force of the American military. Ring a bell tres? ;)


Tim-
 
I remember quite well, thank you very much, and what I remember was that all through the campaign Reagan promised that the hostages would be released or Iran would face the full force of the American military. Ring a bell tres? ;)


Tim-

Reagan’s inauguration in 1981 may have coincided with the release of the hostages, but historians say it did not cause it. Instead, the Iranians had tired of holding the hostages, and that the administration of Jimmy Carter did the legwork to get the hostages released. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...wrongly-credits-reagan-1981-release-hostages/
 
I remember quite well, thank you very much, and what I remember was that all through the campaign Reagan promised that the hostages would be released or Iran would face the full force of the American military. Ring a bell tres? ;)


Tim-

The President-elect promised something that was in the works since the day they were taken hostage, Tim. He had no hand in the negotiations. Look it up. You don't remember it well.

Trump promised Mexico would pay for a wall. Ring a bell, Tim? Obama promised Gitmo would be closed. Ring a bell, Tim? Reagan promised he would get the hostages out - before he was in office. They were released on the day he was inaugurated. They didn't wake up that morning and say "Hey, let's release those guys today. Sound good?". Ring a bell, Tim?

Don't compare your false prophet hero with a real man like Reagan.
 
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