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[W:435]*******Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

So much for free speech.

lol...free speech is what will allow millions of people to destroy this little twit's life. It's a wonderful thing.
 
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Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

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Little Trumpers hating on a brown-skinned US military veteran. Disgusting.

racists make up a slim majority of the GOP, right guys?? guy??
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

You don't think the front-most kid is staring the guy down, trying to intimidate him?

The kid was looking for a confrontation. He wanted the man to react, but Mr. Phillips proved to be much more of a man than that punk will ever be.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

I agree, actions do have consequences...but remember what his action was.

Simply standing, silently, with a smile on his face.

Why should this simple, non-violent, non-verbal action be considered so "heinous" that he should be punished in ways you describe?

Seems a bit biased, when so many other's on the opposite side of the political spectrum have done worse...often while hiding behind masks. :coffeepap:

While I see nothing "racist" in the video, I do agree he was very disrespectful towards a person he did not know. If those kids were there for a "March for Life" rally, they had no business being around Native Americans and mocking them. He was indeed doing that, as was his other MAGA pals. It may have been about race, or it could be just dumb punk teens mocking something they did not understand.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

So much for free speech.

Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences. Free speech has never been about saying whatever you want and being protected from the consequences of what you say.
 
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Great to hear!

I'm a product of the Catholic School system. I love the Catholic Schools. I mean really & truly. I can't tell you all they mean to me, and what I've seen them do. They've done so much good. So things like this do break my heart.

My time in the Catholic School system was admittedly a long time ago. Back then in my city, they were all-boy prep schools, but often had an immigrant flavor depending on the school and the neighborhood they served. Some of us were poor, some were not, some were immigrants, some were not, and we almost all were city kids. But damn, we all got a great education and - especially - were infused with (IMO) great values.

However now many years later, most of the Catholic Prep schools now seem to be in the suburbs, and are comprised of a more affluent and highly Caucasian & "landed" demographic. They and their students now more resemble the stereotypical East Coast "elite" type prep boarding schools, that much of society seems to despise. Of course stereotypes don't always ring true, but I have seen it creeping into the Catholic prep schools over the years.

At the least, the suburban kids in their prep schools are having a far different experience than I had in the more ethnic based prep schools back in the city. And it shows in videos like that above. We Catholics are no longer the newly arrived minority guys, on the lower rungs of the totem poll. We've got to remember where we and our families came from, and keep a vigilant watch on this stuff.

Wow thanks for writing that. It was well thought out from a catholic perspective. It's stuff like this that will and does drive people away.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

lol...free speech is what will allow millions of people to destroy this little twit's life. It's a wonderful thing.

He'll automatically get into Liberty University though.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

The kid was looking for a confrontation. He wanted the man to react, but Mr. Phillips proved to be much more of a man than that punk will ever be.
:thumbs:
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

You don't think the front-most kid is staring the guy down, trying to intimidate him?

See post 20.

So, no I don't think what he did was a problem except to the most sensitive among us. Did it stop the gentleman from singing? No.

Everything is a matter of perspective. From MY perspective, BOTH were exercising non-violent freedom of expression. One verbally singing, the other silently standing. :shrug:
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

lol...free speech is what will allow millions of people to destroy this little twit's life. It's a wonderful thing.

I don't think the kids needs his life destroyed for being stupid, but he definitely needs a lesson in respect.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

I must be missing something...I just finished watching the entire video at the link.

I saw kids mimicking the song, I saw one kid standing silently with a smile on his face in front of the lead drummer. Some kids asking "what, what, what" and some asking what's going on. Toward the end some yelled out "war-cry's."

So what's the harassment? They were simply and peacefully, if a little exuberantly (they are young boys after all) exercising their 1st Amendment rights. At no time did they physically interfere in or try to stop the Native protest.

I've seen Leftist mobs do worse, a LOT worse. But as long as they did not act violently or in any way try to prevent others from protesting peacefully, I had not problem with their "free speech."

So why should there be one with this incident? :confused:

Shocking that you'd be out there minimizing/defending this.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

I suspect there won't be many conservatives defending this video.

The usual suspects. Trumpers all so far.

It's sad to see what is happening to this great Republic. We'll all be so much better off when the nationalists in the White House are gone.
 
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While I see nothing "racist" in the video, I do agree he was very disrespectful towards a person he did not know. If those kids were there for a "March for Life" rally, they had no business being around Native Americans and mocking them. He was indeed doing that, as was his other MAGA pals. It may have been about race, or it could be just dumb punk teens mocking something they did not understand.
Yes, the bolded is true. At best, they may have been mocking. That is my hope. These things always appear worse when there's a MAGA hat involved, whatever is really going-on.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

Shocking that you'd be out there minimizing/defending this.

Not shocking that the Left would be making much of this. :shrug:
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

It's sad to see you don't respect our veterans.

I see you want to beat up kids because you don't like the way they look.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

Shocking that you'd be out there minimizing/defending this.

It's not shocking at all quite frankly. Oh wait.....sarcasm.....got it.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

I see you want to beat up kids because you don't like the way they look.

Why do you hate America?
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

I agree, actions do have consequences...but remember what his action was.

Simply standing, silently, with a smile on his face.

Why should this simple, non-violent, non-verbal action be considered so "heinous" that he should be punished in ways you describe?

Seems a bit biased, when so many other's on the opposite side of the political spectrum have done worse...often while hiding behind masks. :coffeepap:

Violence from right-wingers DWARFS violence from left-wingers, so get off your high horse.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

I must be missing something...I just finished watching the entire video at the link.

I saw kids mimicking the song, I saw one kid standing silently with a smile on his face in front of the lead drummer. Some kids asking "what, what, what" and some asking what's going on. Toward the end some yelled out "war-cry's."

So what's the harassment? They were simply and peacefully, if a little exuberantly (they are young boys after all) exercising their 1st Amendment rights. At no time did they physically interfere in or try to stop the Native protest.

I've seen Leftist mobs do worse, a LOT worse. But as long as they did not act violently or in any way try to prevent others from protesting peacefully, I had not problem with their "free speech."

So why should there be one with this incident? :confused:
You REALLY don't see how these kids were mocking his culture?

I doubt that, I think you're just defending conservatives at all costs, because that's what you do.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

So much for free speech.

He and his pals were trying to shut it down. You failed to notice.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

The usual suspects. Trumpers all so far.

It's sad to see what is happening to this great Republic. We'll all be so much better off when the nationalists in the White House are gone.

Of course they're Trumpers, because Trumpers are mentally deficient assholes. I ****ing despise Trump supporters with every cell of my being. They are gutter trash.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

Violence from right-wingers DWARFS violence from left-wingers, so get off your high horse.

There...was...no..."violence" in this incident. :roll:

Which of us was on what horse? :coffeepap:
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

You REALLY don't see how these kids were mocking his culture?

I doubt that, I think you're just defending conservatives at all costs, because that's what you do.

They're cool with that. It's "free speech," after all, to be a complete prick for no reason. That's the Trump MO, and these nimrods are just following the playbook.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

I don't think the kids needs his life destroyed for being stupid, but he definitely needs a lesson in respect.

At the very least he should be suspended from school for a few days but nothing more. The same goes for the other MAGA teens dancing and acting like jackasses.
 
Re: Native American Vietnam Veteran Speaks Out After MAGA Hat-Wearing Teens Harass Him

Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences. Free speech has never been about saying whatever you want and being protected from the consequences of what you say.

If he is punished, in the future, by a government funded college, that violates the 1st Amendment.

Anything you pay for isn't free. The notion that free speech comes with concequences is probably the most idiotic things that Liberals have ever come up with.
 
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