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So Republicans, got a big decision to make...

Skeptic Bob said:
National morale
Market stability
Respect at the global negotiating table
Continuous bad behavior is a distraction from real issues
And like it or not, the President IS a roll model to the nation’s children.

I’m not saying policy isn’t important, but that can always be undone by the next President and any lasting policies need legislation and Congress carries the bulk of that burden. Also, Congress and the Judiciary can keep any overly reckless Presidential actions and policies in check (with the exception of his C-in-C actions).

Again, in nonleadership rolls, like a regular member of Congress, saying all that matters is policy positions makes sense. All they really do is vote Yes or No. But in leadership rolls, like Speaker of the House or maybe even committee chairman, behavior matters more. And the biggest leadership roll of all, of course, is POTUS.
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Imagine, a so called "conservative" asking why the way the "president acts [is] as important as the policies he or she supports", as if somehow it's okay if a president acts like a retarded nine year old gangbanger on crack, just as long as his policies are thought to be acceptable.

Why YES OF COURSE, people ONLY ever look at policy...sure...try that approach next time you're interviewing for a job.
Go in, act like a complete ass, taunt the HR person, insult the CEO, threaten the entire staff, knock over everything on the desk, start making outrageous demands, saunter through the office telling everybody a crock of bald faced lies, but be confident in the knowledge that your CV has some "good talking points" in it.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
You don't understand the trailer trash mind, they will abandon Trump in his final moments and play the victim for some young charismatic republican to come in and save. His base is going to attach their claws to another celebrity. And if they do so to one that has appeal to even a few independents, aint nothing finished.

We just got to pick the right shiny to put in front of the retards when the time is right.
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Been saying all along that Trump may have played a pivotal role in creating the problem, but he himself is not the problem.
There are potentially hundreds of Trumps waiting in the wings, waiting to try out all that delicious Cambridge Analytica big data that they can use to diddle the reality TV addicted yokels.

Trump isn't the problem, Trump is THE DRUG that the yokels are addicted to, and if Trump is destroyed, they can just slide something equally buzzy under the nose of the yokels, and the yokels will snort it up like the powdered Adderall Trump is addicted to.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
What planet did you say you lived on again?
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I lived on the planet where Trump beat 16 of the GOP's best hopefuls, and defeated the most qualified candidate in American politics.

They call that planet "Earth" but I guess you were on "Planet Buffonery" when all of this took place.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.
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Why only a Republican? Why not vote for the person you believe is most qualified and likely to do the best job?

Party loyalty is for suckers.
 
Hedgology said:
I lived on the planet where Trump beat 16 of the GOP's best hopefuls, and defeated the most qualified candidate in American politics.

They call that planet "Earth" but I guess you were on "Planet Buffonery" when all of this took place.
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No, "planet buffonery" PERFECTLY accurately describes the Trump regime.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.
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Hear! hear! Well said, you're a very rare Republican.

I'd give you a thumbs up, but you're as generous giving them out as conservatives are with welfare... ;)
 
ThoughtEx. said:
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.
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Same one I supported last time - Kasich. He can't win, though. The GOP is nuts. The dems may show themselves to be nuts as well, but the reps are cornering the market at the moment.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
As a Republican. I plan on supporting a decent human being capable of governing in the next Primary.
Now, that means I'm not supporting Trump.

I don't care if you are, you're opinion is meaningless to me.

This is for SANE Republicans.

Who should we be looking at that fits this criteria.
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Well, the Dems AND the Reps have made McCain a god...to bad he's dead.
 
SoCal said:
Hear! hear! Well said, you're a very rare Republican.

I'd give you a thumbs up, but you're as generous giving them out as conservatives are with welfare... ;)
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He's not a "very rare Republican". Trump hating Republicans are quite common.
 
markjs said:
No, "planet buffonery" PERFECTLY accurately describes the Trump regime.
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In your opinion. I think he has exposed how much you all know about anything and outlined the basic truth.

American politics is largely a joke.
 
Hedgology said:
I lived on the planet where Trump beat 16 of the GOP's best hopefuls, and defeated the most qualified candidate in American politics.

They call that planet "Earth" but I guess you were on "Planet Buffonery" when all of this took place.
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Most qualified? Who was the "most qualified" again?
 
Hedgology said:
Hillary Clinton, by most standards of American conventional politics

Not by my standards, however. Hillary Clinton is not an authority on anything practical.
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Hillary Clinton was an AWFUL candidate...TWICE (also awful in 2008) so never mind her "qualifications".
By any standard she was terribly unqualified because, as good as she was at being a policy wonk, her arrogance was Nixonian, her bedside manner approached Calvin Coolidge tendencies and her entitlement attitude had assumed Uncle Miltie proportions.

By conventional standards, she appeared as she truly is: MEDIOCRE - - despite her policy bonafides.
And that IS why she lost....TWICE. Had she not been such a horrible candidate, she would have gotten TEN million more than Trump, not three million, and we would be living under her mediocre presidency.

I would view it as "survivable" at the worst, not the end of the world, but you can bet she would have found new ways to alienate even her own base somewhere along the way.

And yes, I am a liberal Democrat who DID vote for her, but that's because as bad as she was, she was still better than Trump.
 
Mycroft said:
He's not a "very rare Republican". Trump hating Republicans are quite common.
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I know their numbers are growing, but I see very few on the news and a lot fewer here...
 
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Hedgology said:
Hillary Clinton, by most standards of American conventional politics

Not by my standards, however. I don't know why anyone would consider her an authority on anything practical.
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Anyone who knows that she's more practical than Numnuts knows why. Seems like an easy choice to me...
 
ThoughtEx. said:
You don't understand the trailer trash mind, they will abandon Trump in his final moments and play the victim for some young charismatic republican to come in and save. His base is going to attach their claws to another celebrity. And if they do so to one that has appeal to even a few independents, aint nothing finished.

We just got to pick the right shiny to put in front of the retards when the time is right.
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As a liberal, I truly hope you continue believing this.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Hillary Clinton was an AWFUL candidate...TWICE (also awful in 2008) so never mind her "qualifications".
By any standard she was terribly unqualified because, as good as she was at being a policy wonk, her arrogance was Nixonian, her bedside manner approached Calvin Coolidge tendencies and her entitlement attitude had assumed Uncle Miltie proportions.

By conventional standards, she appeared as she truly is: MEDIOCRE - - despite her policy bonafides.
And that IS why she lost....TWICE. Had she not been such a horrible candidate, she would have gotten TEN million more than Trump, not three million, and we would be living under her mediocre presidency.

I would view it as "survivable" at the worst, not the end of the world, but you can bet she would have found new ways to alienate even her own base somewhere along the way.

And yes, I am a liberal Democrat who DID vote for her, but that's because as bad as she was, she was still better than Trump.
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Well, I don't know what they says about you, because Hillary is literally a liar, a hyprocritic, a criminal, and a murderer. I don't know who the alternative would need to be to better than Trump...
 
Hedgology said:
In your opinion. I think he has exposed how much you all know about anything and outlined the basic truth.

American politics is largely a joke.
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Then your "thinking" is incredibly flwed to come up with such a collossaly erroneous opinion.
 
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