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    Trump conceals notes from Putin meetings

    Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration


    “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

    1/13/19
    President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi*mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said. Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson. The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries. As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference. Former U.S. officials said that Trump’s behavior is at odds with the known practices of previous presidents, who have relied on senior aides to witness meetings and take comprehensive notes then shared with other officials and departments.

    Trump’s secrecy surrounding Putin “is not only unusual by historical standards, it is outrageous,” said Strobe Talbott, a former deputy secretary of state now at the Brookings Institution, who participated in more than a dozen meetings between President Bill Clinton and then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s. “It handicaps the U.S. government — the experts and advisers and Cabinet officers who are there to serve [the president] — and it certainly gives Putin much more scope to manipulate Trump.” The meeting in Hamburg happened several months after The Washington Post and other news organizations revealed details about what Trump had told senior Russian officials during a meeting with Russian officials in the Oval Office. Trump disclosed classified information about a terrorism plot, called former FBI director James B. Comey a “nut job” and said that firing Comey had removed “great pressure” on his relationship with Russia. Trump also had other private conversations with Putin at meetings of global leaders outside the presence of aides. He spoke at length with Putin at a banquet at the same 2017 global conference in Hamburg, where only Putin’s interpreter was present. Trump also had a brief conversation with *Putin at a Group of 20 summit in Buenos Aires last month. A similar issue arose in Helsinki, the setting for the first formal U.S.-Russia summit since Trump became president. Trump and Putin then met for two hours in private, accompanied only by their interpreters. Trump’s interpreter, Marina Gross, could be seen emerging from the meeting with pages of notes.
    The Trump Oval Office meeting with Russia Foreign Minister Lavrov and Ambassador Kislyak was closed to US media. We only learned what transpired via a leak. There are no records of Trumps meetings with Vladimir Putin in Hamburg, in Helsinki, and in Buenos Aires. In cases, Trump has physically confiscated the notes of his Russia interpreter and ordered the interpreters (male/female) not to discuss the meetings with anyone. We all remember Helsinki where Trump told a world audience that he believed Putin rather than the US intelligence community. Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to sequester all information of his meetings with the Russian president. This is unprecedented and highly sobering in light of the New York Times article that revealed the FBI opened an investigation into Trumps relationship with Putin/Russia after Trump fired FBI Director James Comey "because of the Russia thing" as Trump told Lester Holt afterwards.

    At a minimum, Donald Trump has exposed himself to Kremlin disinformation and manipulation as Moscow controls the secret-meetings narratives.


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    Re: Trump conceals notes from Putin meetings

    One more in a massive list of truly stupid and very ignorant stories!

    So who is alleging this? Yes it's mystery folks who hate president Trump!
    No names, no nothing.......

    "other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said."

    The BS meter is off the scale folks
    “The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election.”

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    Re: Trump conceals notes from Putin meetings

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration


    “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”



    The Trump Oval Office meeting with Russia Foreign Minister Lavrov and Ambassador Kislyak was closed to US media. We only learned what transpired via a leak. There are no records of Trumps meetings with Vladimir Putin in Hamburg, in Helsinki, and in Buenos Aires. In cases, Trump has physically confiscated the notes of his Russia interpreter and ordered the interpreters (male/female) not to discuss the meetings with anyone. We all remember Helsinki where Trump told a world audience that he believed Putin rather than the US intelligence community. Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to sequester all information of his meetings with the Russian president. This is unprecedented and highly sobering in light of the New York Times article that revealed the FBI opened an investigation into Trumps relationship with Putin/Russia after Trump fired FBI Director James Comey "because of the Russia thing" as Trump told Lester Holt afterwards.

    At a minimum, Donald Trump has exposed himself to Kremlin disinformation and manipulation as Moscow controls the secret-meetings narratives.
    I remember when the Republicans actually gave a damn about what the United States President said and did.

    That went out the window when they feel in love with Trump and Putin.

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    The FBI isn't an intelligence agency.

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    Re: Trump conceals notes from Putin meetings

    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense 1 View Post
    One more in a massive list of truly stupid and very ignorant stories!

    So who is alleging this? Yes it's mystery folks who hate president Trump!
    No names, no nothing.......

    "other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said."

    The BS meter is off the scale folks
    Your continual appeasement of and support for Putin is duly noted.

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