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    'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record


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    Then instruct McConnell to allow the US Senate to vote on the 6 funding CRs that the US House passed on January 4. Then sign the 6 passed CRs.

    That would restore funding to the 9 federal departments currently on shutdown and allow the 800,000+ furloughed federal employees to resume working at their jobs.

    The rub here is that Trump and McConnell won't allow a US Senate vote on the 6 CRS passed by the US House because doing so would remove the federal worker hostages they are holding until their ransom of $5.6 billion is satisfied.

    Both Trump and McConnell realize that a point will come when both Congressional chambers would vote to over-ride a presidential veto and get the government funded again.

    But that scenario cannot happen with McConnell refusing to allow a vote and having Trump placed in a position of refusing to sign passed Congressional legislation to at least fund 9 government departments.

    Furloughed federal workers .... McConnell considers your paychecks with $0.00 on them a necessary evil to protect Trump from outing himself.


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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record



    Then instruct McConnell to allow the US Senate to vote on the 6 funding CRs that the US House passed on January 4. Then sign the 6 passed CRs.
    No.
    Tell the House to start cooperating and negotiating instead.

    Why should the House get what they want without cooperating and compromising with what the President wants?
    They are in no position to make demands.
    The only position they can take is one of cooperation with the other parties.
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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record



    Then instruct McConnell to allow the US Senate to vote on the 6 funding CRs that the US House passed on January 4. Then sign the 6 passed CRs.

    That would restore funding to the 9 federal departments currently on shutdown and allow the 800,000+ furloughed federal employees to resume working at their jobs.

    The rub here is that Trump and McConnell won't allow a US Senate vote on the 6 CRS passed by the US House because doing so would remove the federal worker hostages they are holding until their ransom of $5.6 billion is satisfied.

    Both Trump and McConnell realize that a point will come when both Congressional chambers would vote to over-ride a presidential veto and get the government funded again.

    But that scenario cannot happen with McConnell refusing to allow a vote and having Trump placed in a position of refusing to sign passed Congressional legislation to at least fund 9 government departments.

    Furloughed federal workers .... McConnell considers your paychecks with $0.00 on them a necessary evil to protect Trump from outing himself.
    McConnell has been running very silent....nobody seems to have any evidenced insight on what he is up to....all such talk is speculation.

    Trump on the other hand is an open book.
    My heart breaks for America......The future is going to be so much suck....Because the people mostly never cared enough to get educated.

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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No.
    Tell the House to start cooperating and negotiating instead.
    Congress isn't supposed to cooperate with the President. That's not how the framers designed it. If anything it's supposed to be the other 'way round. The President is supposed to do what Congress tells him.
    That's why they legislate and he executes.
    Question Authority!

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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Furloughed federal workers .... McConnell considers your paychecks with $0.00 on them a necessary evil to protect Trump from outing himself.
    Now that the shutdown has gone past twenty days, even CEO's, members of Congress and big business muckety mucks are going to be affected. TSA Pre-check will start to shut down, and that means flying is about to become a much bigger hassle for people that the Republicans seem to be beholden to.

    Employers who are bound to e-Verify are unable to hire because e-Verify is not operational. Food wholesalers are unable to get FDA inspections, thus are increasingly liable if disease vectors are indicated in their stocks.

    Even White House staff are furloughed, and the White House has failed to pay its water bill.
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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Congress isn't supposed to cooperate with the President. That's not how the framers designed it. If anything it's supposed to be the other 'way round. The President is supposed to do what Congress tells him.
    That's why they legislate and he executes.
    Wrong.
    This is how it works.
    Other way around? iLOL No.

    They all need to cooperate, which I keep telling you they are responsible for not doing.
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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Congress isn't supposed to cooperate with the President. That's not how the framers designed it. If anything it's supposed to be the other 'way round. The President is supposed to do what Congress tells him.
    That's why they legislate and he executes.
    Apparently a majority of DP members don't even believe in politics at all, really.
    The notion that Congress is supposed to be merely a rubber stamp that follows the commands of the tyrant in chief without question is ludicrous. We're no longer "debating politics" at that point, just talking about how obedient or disobedient the subjects are, and that includes the well paid subjects in the Capitol Building.

    Apparently a sizeable portion of DP members want some kind of absolute monarchy.
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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    No.
    Tell the House to start cooperating and negotiating instead.

    Why should the House get what they want without cooperating and compromising with what the President wants?
    They are in no position to make demands.
    The only position they can take is one of cooperation with the other parties.
    What do they want? What demands are they making? What aren't they negotiating about?

    See, that's the problem. Trump is the one who is not negotiating. He is the one demanding. He has not offered anything in exchange for $5.7B for the wall. It's been "gimme the money for the wall or the government will stay shutdown".

    That's not negotiation, that's extortion.

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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Now that the shutdown has gone past twenty days, even CEO's, members of Congress and big business muckety mucks are going to be affected. TSA Pre-check will start to shut down, and that means flying is about to become a much bigger hassle for people that the Republicans seem to be beholden to.

    Employers who are bound to e-Verify are unable to hire because e-Verify is not operational. Food wholesalers are unable to get FDA inspections, thus are increasingly liable if disease vectors are indicated in their stocks.

    Even White House staff are furloughed, and the White House has failed to pay its water bill.
    I think Trump is looking for an excuse to move to one of these two accommodations........

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    Re: 'Out for long time': Trump tweets as US shutdown sets new record

    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    What do they want? What demands are they making? What aren't they negotiating about?

    See, that's the problem. Trump is the one who is not negotiating. He is the one demanding. He has not offered anything in exchange for $5.7B for the wall. It's been "gimme the money for the wall or the government will stay shutdown".

    That's not negotiation, that's extortion.
    No it is not extortion.
    It is what has been going on for ages.
    The President puts on the table what he wants and they name what they want in order for him to get what he wants.
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