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    The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller and committees in both chambers of Congress are investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election and whether there were any links or coordination between the Trump orbit and the Russian government. Here is a summary of known connections between Trump associates and Russia. Updated December 1, 2017, 2:30 p.m. est

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    Re: The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller and committees in both chambers of Congress are investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election and whether there were any links or coordination between the Trump orbit and the Russian government. Here is a summary of known connections between Trump associates and Russia. Updated December 1, 2017, 2:30 p.m. est

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    Americans talked with Russians? Why is that strange? Russia gave Bill Clinton half a million dollars for making one speech one time. Before the election. Is that crooked? Why would it be crooked?
    Democrats are playing on American gullibility by pushing such stupid crap hype.

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    Re: The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Is that James Comey defending Hillary from journalists wanting to ask questions about Benghazi and Hillary's private email server?

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    Re: The many paths from Trump to Russia

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    Americans talked with Russians? Why is that strange? Russia gave Bill Clinton half a million dollars for making one speech one time. Before the election. Is that crooked? Why would it be crooked?
    Democrats are playing on American gullibility by pushing such stupid crap hype.
    Trump is both a spy & a traitor.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/u...tion-isis.html

    WASHINGTON — President Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence in a meeting with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador last week, providing details that could expose the source of the information and the manner in which it was collected, a current and a former American government official said Monday.

    The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot, according to the officials. A Middle Eastern ally that closely guards its own secrets provided the information, which was considered so sensitive that American officials did not share it widely within the United States government or pass it on to other allies.
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    The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller and committees in both chambers of Congress are investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election and whether there were any links or coordination between the Trump orbit and the Russian government. Here is a summary of known connections between Trump associates and Russia. Updated December 1, 2017, 2:30 p.m. est

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    Does anyone else thing it’s really, really weird that Trump isn’t taking offense to the fact that the FBI thought he was working for the Russians? He’s just lashing out at the NYT for reporting it, or the FBI for being corrupt.

    It’s like a ‘tell’ from a toddler when they scream and wail and otherwise distract from the obvious fact that they... did whatever you suspect.

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    Re: The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    Trump is both a spy & a traitor.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/u...tion-isis.html

    WASHINGTON — President Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence in a meeting with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador last week, providing details that could expose the source of the information and the manner in which it was collected, a current and a former American government official said Monday.

    The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot, according to the officials. A Middle Eastern ally that closely guards its own secrets provided the information, which was considered so sensitive that American officials did not share it widely within the United States government or pass it on to other allies.
    Again, an unnamed 'secret' source. Such unnamed sources have been the biggest providers of 'secret' information to leftist media conspiracy theorists by far for years.

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    Re: The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Is that James Comey defending Hillary from journalists wanting to ask questions about Benghazi and Hillary's private email server?
    The FBI demonstrated grave concern about a sitting president acting like a Russian agent, and that is all the effort you put into deflecting for him?

    Lazy.

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    Re: The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    The FBI demonstrated grave concern about a sitting president acting like a Russian agent, and that is all the effort you put into deflecting for him?

    Lazy.
    I don't like Trump, but his business dealings have put him in the company of many Russians. Business dealings. Can other dealings be possible? Of course. So where is the proof? It's been a couple of years and none has been delivered. Let's find the real crime. Infidelity, character defects, lies, sleaze, immorality, narcissism, and nearly no end of options. So many places to seek this illicit behaviour, but collusion will never fly. He is in collusion with MBS in Saudi Arabia. Death and destruction in Syria and LIbya. Starvation, famine, dead kids in Yemen. Cut the nonsense and direct inquiries in more productive directions, eh?
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    Re: The many paths from Trump to Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't like Trump, but his business dealings have put him in the company of many Russians. Business dealings. Can other dealings be possible? Of course. So where is the proof? It's been a couple of years and none has been delivered. Let's find the real crime. Infidelity, character defects, lies, sleaze, immorality, narcissism, and nearly no end of options. So many places to seek this illicit behaviour, but collusion will never fly. He is in collusion with MBS in Saudi Arabia. Death and destruction in Syria and LIbya. Starvation, famine, dead kids in Yemen. Cut the nonsense and direct inquiries in more productive directions, eh?
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    Well, that's more effort than marke put into it. I'll give you that.

    The FBI is/was concerned. They started an investigation before Mueller became special counsel. Mueller is continuing the investigation. Whatever there is proof of, I'm sure it's being uncovered. Hopefully we'll have a report fairly soon.

    But there is so very much material to sort through ... so very many connections between Russia and Trump and Trump's criminal or otherwise shady associates ... that we have to give it time.

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