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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Meanwhile, “We The People Will Fund The Wall”, a viral GoFundMe page established by Air Force veteran and "motivational speaker" Brian Kolfage in late December, is approaching $20m , and it is doubtful any of that money will ever go to building the wall.

    In a society that isn't suffering from a mass collective case of mental illness, people would be opening their pocketbooks to help the furloughed workers.
    In our society, our sick society, apparently people would rather fund scams launched by KNOWN SCAMMERS.
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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Typical TSA screener salary is between $29k and $42k, not conducive to being able to just drive/fly to DC and strike/protest and also not very conducive to "toughing it out during lean months". They need every penny of their pay if they don't wish to become homeless.

    Trump is using the weakest and most vulnerable as pawns in his hostage drama, and they are basically now reduced to BEGGING for help.
    they're on the low end, and i wouldn't be surprised if many of them take other jobs. however, i read in a news article that the average federal salary is $37 an hour. i'd wait a while if i were making that much and had a lot invested in the career.

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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    they're on the low end, and i wouldn't be surprised if many of them take other jobs. however, i read in a news article that the average federal salary is $37 an hour. i'd wait a while if i were making that much and had a lot invested in the career.
    TSA workers are in a separate special tier that does not make a typical "GS" salary.
    That's why they only get between 29 and 42 thousand a year. They are government workers but in a strange twist, they are outside the "Government Services" salary table.
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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    TSA workers are in a separate special tier that does not make a typical "GS" salary.
    That's why they only get between 29 and 42 thousand a year. They are government workers but in a strange twist, they are outside the "Government Services" salary table.
    sounds like they don't get treated very well by their employers or by the general public. they'll probably lose a lot of them, as i doubt that they can afford to work for free while Trump floats his ego.

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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    sounds like they don't get treated very well by their employers or by the general public. they'll probably lose a lot of them, as i doubt that they can afford to work for free while Trump floats his ego.
    They can't. Rent checks are going to bounce at the start of February, air travel gets less safe every single day, and Trump takes all the credit.
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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They can't. Rent checks are going to bounce at the start of February, air travel gets less safe every single day, and Trump takes all the credit.
    it's unfortunate that workers have to suffer because of Trump. i doubt that it will be the last time.

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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    sounds like they don't get treated very well by their employers or by the general public. they'll probably lose a lot of them, as i doubt that they can afford to work for free while Trump floats his ego.
    Once the snazzy TSA Pre-check starts shutting down, the elites will be subjected to the same long lines and frustration as everybody else, even the First Class folks will be getting "the biz-niss". Once a few CEO's and Congress critters who can't charter private flights get subjected to that, you can count on the pressure rising.
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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Essential government workers:
    • Federal government employees who've been deemed important enough that they haven't been furloughed, but who yet aren't getting paid.



    Though I understand why some essential government workers may not strike, a huge bloc of them, most notably TSA airport workers and/or air traffic controllers, should have gone on strike on Jan. 4, 2019. Why that group of government employees?
    • Because planes don't fly without them.
    • Because there are far too many of them and their training lag times too long to rapidly replace them to get planes flying again.
      • They can literally shutdown US air transportation -- passenger and freight -- for a couple months at least.
    • Because they are "regular" people whose roles position them to have pivotal, unignorable impacts. America's commercial sectors -- anyone who needs to fly; anyone who ships stuff on FedEx, UPS, etc. -- would lay massive pressure on Trump and Congress to get the government up and running again.

    Those two groups of essential employees are both "visible" and numerous enough that their striking could very rapidly move either (1) a veto-proof Congressional bill's passage or (2) the POTUS and Congress to collaboratively get the government funded and reopened.

    The US is democracy and this seems like one of the times when "the people," not their elected representatives, need to take the lead to achieve a specific outcomes.
    Maybe because it's against the law, as it should be.
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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i doubt that they'll get a good recommendation from their superiors if they're fired. my guess is that many will wait it out until waiting it out becomes financially impossible.
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    I think you're right about that. Few folks exhibit economically rational behavior when the it comes to managing the sale of their own labor.
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    Re: Has it struck you as odd that certain "essential" yet unpaid gov't workers haven't gone on strik

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Once the snazzy TSA Pre-check starts shutting down, the elites will be subjected to the same long lines and frustration as everybody else, even the First Class folks will be getting "the biz-niss". Once a few CEO's and Congress critters who can't charter private flights get subjected to that, you can count on the pressure rising.
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    What CEOs and members of Congress lack access to charter flights? None that I know of, unless one has in mind, in substance, "Joe Schmoe" who's the CEO of the "lemonade stand" at the end of his driveway.

    The main concern for such folks is air traffic controllers. TSA personnel are pertinent to commercial airline operations. Without them, UPS, FedEx, USPS, Delta, United, American Airlines, etc. can't fly planes because TSA inspectors make sure there aren't bombs (and other contraband) in the packages/containers they carry.

    Though they work in the "bowels" of airports and airline passengers thus don't much see them, those TSA personnel are every bit as critical to safe air transportation as are the folks at the security checkpoints inside the terminal. Just as passengers' cargo (their luggage) doesn't get on a plane without TSA examination, neither does all the other cargo planes carry. Make no mistake, airlines survive not from transporting passengers but from carrying cargo. (How Stuff Works: Passenger Airline Freight)
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