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    Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Per the poll noted below, Trumpkins and Independents get their news from roughly the same places, and in the same proportions. I mean, really. I expect Dems and GOP-ers to get info from different places and form diametrically different conclusions based on it. However, when folks lacking party allegiance consume basically the same content as GOP-ers (Indies reported consuming info in different patterns and from different sources from Dems) and arrive at materially different conclusions, ones that more nearly align with Dems, one has to ask WTF is going on in the minds of those GOP-ers. Is there even something going on in there?

    What makes me say the above? Well, I read the below linked-to poll and I started thinking about what might drive, not the actual responses folks gave, but the difference in some of the answers, particularly the differences between Republicans and Independents. Seeing those differences, I realized there shouldn't be an exogenous information-oriented reason for the difference because those catalysts are essentially the same. That means the differences must preponderantly be driven by endogenous disparities among the respondents and how they process (or don't) information. That led me to posit that Trumpkins are some stupid, intransigent, gullible-ass "mofos."

    Read the poll for yourself:



    Some additional inferences I've drawn from the above noted poll:
    • Republicans who are well-informed about the shutdown are comparatively rare. More than half of Republicans know little or nothing about the shutdown. What do you want to wager that more than half of GOP-ers have an opinion on the matter, even as they aren't well-informed about it?
      • Poll: How much have you seen, heard or read about the recent shutdown of portions of the federal government?
        • A lot:
          • Dems --> 60%
          • GOP-ers --> 47%
          • Indies --> 53%

        • Xelor: Concomitant with their relative ignorance about the shutdown and apparent disregard for Trump's dissembling, Republicans found Trump's Oval Office address convincing about the verisimility of a southern border crisis, even though Trump didn't in his address reveal anything noteworthy and new.
          • Poll: President Trump's speech convinced me there is a crisis on the Southern border.
            • Dems --> 21% agree
            • GOP-ers --> 66% agree
            • Indies --> 32% agree

    • Trump's claim that the furloughed and unpaid-yet-essential workers are mostly Democrats appears not to hold water.
      • Poll: Are you, or someone in your immediate family a federal employee or contractor and was furloughed without pay?
        • Dems --> 5%
        • GOP-ers --> 5%

    • Republicans are relatively more insouciant than Dems about the consequences of the shutdown.
      • Poll: The government shutdown is going to hurt our country.
        • Dems --> 88% agree
        • GOP-ers --> 53% agree
        • Indies --> 71% agree
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Per the poll noted below, Trumpkins and Independents get their news from roughly the same places, and in the same proportions. I mean, really. I expect Dems and GOP-ers to get info from different places and form diametrically different conclusions based on it. However, when folks lacking party allegiance consume basically the same content as GOP-ers (Indies reported consuming info in different patterns and from different sources from Dems) and arrive at materially different conclusions, ones that more nearly align with Dems, one has to ask WTF is going on in the minds of those GOP-ers. Is there even something going on in there?

    What makes me say the above? Well, I read the below linked-to poll and I started thinking about what might drive, not the actual responses folks gave, but the difference in some of the answers, particularly the differences between Republicans and Independents. Seeing those differences, I realized there shouldn't be an exogenous information-oriented reason for the difference because those catalysts are essentially the same. That means the differences must preponderantly be driven by endogenous disparities among the respondents and how they process (or don't) information. That led me to posit that Trumpkins are some stupid, intransigent, gullible-ass "mofos."

    Read the poll for yourself:



    Some additional inferences I've drawn from the above noted poll:
    • Republicans who are well-informed about the shutdown are comparatively rare. More than half of Republicans know little or nothing about the shutdown. What do you want to wager that more than half of GOP-ers have an opinion on the matter, even as they aren't well-informed about it?
      • Poll: How much have you seen, heard or read about the recent shutdown of portions of the federal government?
        • A lot:
          • Dems --> 60%
          • GOP-ers --> 47%
          • Indies --> 53%

        • Xelor: Concomitant with their relative ignorance about the shutdown and apparent disregard for Trump's dissembling, Republicans found Trump's Oval Office address convincing about the verisimility of a southern border crisis, even though Trump didn't in his address reveal anything noteworthy and new.
          • Poll: President Trump's speech convinced me there is a crisis on the Southern border.
            • Dems --> 21% agree
            • GOP-ers --> 66% agree
            • Indies --> 32% agree

    • Trump's claim that the furloughed and unpaid-yet-essential workers are mostly Democrats appears not to hold water.
      • Poll: Are you, or someone in your immediate family a federal employee or contractor and was furloughed without pay?
        • Dems --> 5%
        • GOP-ers --> 5%

    • Republicans are relatively more insouciant than Dems about the consequences of the shutdown.
      • Poll: The government shutdown is going to hurt our country.
        • Dems --> 88% agree
        • GOP-ers --> 53% agree
        • Indies --> 71% agree
    I'm still waiting for the promised border security that was offered in the 80's when Reagan made the Amnesty deal.

    Still not there, still not coming.

    Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

    If Trump gives in on this, the Dems will do what they ALWAYS do. Renege on the deal.

    This is not a mystery to figure out. It's a certainty to be expected. Trump understands the reality and knows the game they are playing.

    Trump has changed the game.
    Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, ...every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. -George Orwell

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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I'm still waiting for the promised border security that was offered in the 80's when Reagan made the Amnesty deal.

    Still not there, still not coming.

    Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

    If Trump gives in on this, the Dems will do what they ALWAYS do. Renege on the deal.

    This is not a mystery to figure out. It's a certainty to be expected. Trump understands the reality and knows the game they are playing.

    Trump has changed the game.
    Yeah, whatever...none of that has anything to do with the thread/OP topic/theme.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Per the poll noted below, Trumpkins and Independents get their news from roughly the same places, and in the same proportions. I mean, really. I expect Dems and GOP-ers to get info from different places and form diametrically different conclusions based on it. However, when folks lacking party allegiance consume basically the same content as GOP-ers (Indies reported consuming info in different patterns and from different sources from Dems) and arrive at materially different conclusions, ones that more nearly align with Dems, one has to ask WTF is going on in the minds of those GOP-ers. Is there even something going on in there?

    What makes me say the above? Well, I read the below linked-to poll and I started thinking about what might drive, not the actual responses folks gave, but the difference in some of the answers, particularly the differences between Republicans and Independents. Seeing those differences, I realized there shouldn't be an exogenous information-oriented reason for the difference because those catalysts are essentially the same. That means the differences must preponderantly be driven by endogenous disparities among the respondents and how they process (or don't) information. That led me to posit that Trumpkins are some stupid, intransigent, gullible-ass "mofos."

    Read the poll for yourself:



    Some additional inferences I've drawn from the above noted poll:
    • Republicans who are well-informed about the shutdown are comparatively rare. More than half of Republicans know little or nothing about the shutdown. What do you want to wager that more than half of GOP-ers have an opinion on the matter, even as they aren't well-informed about it?
      • Poll: How much have you seen, heard or read about the recent shutdown of portions of the federal government?
        • A lot:
          • Dems --> 60%
          • GOP-ers --> 47%
          • Indies --> 53%

        • Xelor: Concomitant with their relative ignorance about the shutdown and apparent disregard for Trump's dissembling, Republicans found Trump's Oval Office address convincing about the verisimility of a southern border crisis, even though Trump didn't in his address reveal anything noteworthy and new.
          • Poll: President Trump's speech convinced me there is a crisis on the Southern border.
            • Dems --> 21% agree
            • GOP-ers --> 66% agree
            • Indies --> 32% agree

    • Trump's claim that the furloughed and unpaid-yet-essential workers are mostly Democrats appears not to hold water.
      • Poll: Are you, or someone in your immediate family a federal employee or contractor and was furloughed without pay?
        • Dems --> 5%
        • GOP-ers --> 5%

    • Republicans are relatively more insouciant than Dems about the consequences of the shutdown.
      • Poll: The government shutdown is going to hurt our country.
        • Dems --> 88% agree
        • GOP-ers --> 53% agree
        • Indies --> 71% agree
    Sorry but your polls dont support your idiotic assertions. But keep trying. Frankly, the idea that 88% democrats think the shutdown will 'hurt the country' only shows how stupid democrats are.

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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Accusations of 'holding Federal Employees hostage' and that this is 'Trump's shutdown' are little more than projection and accusing the other side of what they are themselves have done and are doing. Typically Democrat.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Accusations of 'holding Federal Employees hostage' and that this is 'Trump's shutdown' are little more than projection and accusing the other side of what they are themselves have done and are doing. Typically Democrat.
    Yeah, whatever....You too have no inferences to share based on the responses shown in the poll....
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Per the poll noted below, Trumpkins and Independents get their news from roughly the same places, and in the same proportions. I mean, really. I expect Dems and GOP-ers to get info from different places and form diametrically different conclusions based on it. However, when folks lacking party allegiance consume basically the same content as GOP-ers (Indies reported consuming info in different patterns and from different sources from Dems) and arrive at materially different conclusions, ones that more nearly align with Dems, one has to ask WTF is going on in the minds of those GOP-ers. Is there even something going on in there?

    What makes me say the above? Well, I read the below linked-to poll and I started thinking about what might drive, not the actual responses folks gave, but the difference in some of the answers, particularly the differences between Republicans and Independents. Seeing those differences, I realized there shouldn't be an exogenous information-oriented reason for the difference because those catalysts are essentially the same. That means the differences must preponderantly be driven by endogenous disparities among the respondents and how they process (or don't) information. That led me to posit that Trumpkins are some stupid, intransigent, gullible-ass "mofos."

    Read the poll for yourself:



    Some additional inferences I've drawn from the above noted poll:
    • Republicans who are well-informed about the shutdown are comparatively rare. More than half of Republicans know little or nothing about the shutdown. What do you want to wager that more than half of GOP-ers have an opinion on the matter, even as they aren't well-informed about it?
      • Poll: How much have you seen, heard or read about the recent shutdown of portions of the federal government?
        • A lot:
          • Dems --> 60%
          • GOP-ers --> 47%
          • Indies --> 53%

        • Xelor: Concomitant with their relative ignorance about the shutdown and apparent disregard for Trump's dissembling, Republicans found Trump's Oval Office address convincing about the verisimility of a southern border crisis, even though Trump didn't in his address reveal anything noteworthy and new.
          • Poll: President Trump's speech convinced me there is a crisis on the Southern border.
            • Dems --> 21% agree
            • GOP-ers --> 66% agree
            • Indies --> 32% agree

    • Trump's claim that the furloughed and unpaid-yet-essential workers are mostly Democrats appears not to hold water.
      • Poll: Are you, or someone in your immediate family a federal employee or contractor and was furloughed without pay?
        • Dems --> 5%
        • GOP-ers --> 5%

    • Republicans are relatively more insouciant than Dems about the consequences of the shutdown.
      • Poll: The government shutdown is going to hurt our country.
        • Dems --> 88% agree
        • GOP-ers --> 53% agree
        • Indies --> 71% agree
    I did not read your post, because I am way oversubscribed to "They suck so feel free to ignore them and abuse them" thinking.

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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Yeah, whatever....You too have no inferences to share based on the responses shown in the poll....
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I did not read your post, because I am way oversubscribed to "They suck so feel free to ignore them and abuse them" thinking.
    That.

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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Off-Topic:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I did not read your post, because I am way oversubscribed to "They suck so feel free to ignore them and abuse them" thinking.

    WE USED TO BE BETTER!
    Mine isn't a "they suck" theme. It's a "they're dumber than the day is long" theme.

    It's no surprise you don't know what be the OP's theme insofar as you've demurred to read it.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Off-Topic:


    Mine isn't a "they suck" theme. It's a "they're dumber than the day is long" theme.

    It's no surprise you don't know what be the OP's theme insofar as you've demurred to read it.
    And yet I like Trump, and I am one of the hyper educated.

    This is slander that people who like Trump Just Have To Be stupid.
    When society throws away the Truth Tellers prepare for the worst, for it is surely coming.
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