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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    So, the two political parties negotiating with each other has no connection with the two political parties negotiating with each other.

    Got it!

    Any other complete departures from rationality you care to put forward?

    The Democrats ALWAYS say that IF the Republicans will cave and give them EVERYTHING that they want, they'll negotiate in good faith after the cave occurs.

    Trump knows they are lying. He has leverage right now and doesn't much care if the government never opens again. He's got time.
    The parties negotiating is irrelevant to the thread, it is because the OP/thread is about the people, the individuals, not the parties. The people who are Trumpkins happen to belong to the GOP, but it's the Trumpkins who the OP/thread are about.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    And yet I like Trump, and I am one of the hyper educated.

    This is slander that people who like Trump Just Have To Be stupid.
    Has it occurred to you that you may be an exception? That you're "hyper educated" doesn't make Trumpkins in general be not nitwits.

    Why would I write about Trumpkins in general and cite a poll were I of a mind to remark upon a specific Trumpkin such as yourself or someone else?
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    The parties negotiating is irrelevant to the thread, it is because the OP/thread is about the people, the individuals, not the parties. The people who are Trumpkins happen to belong to the GOP, but it's the Trumpkins who the OP/thread are about.
    Trumpkins is childish.

    You should be would be embarrassed by your behavior if you were better.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Has it occurred to you that you may be an exception? That you're "hyper educated" doesn't make Trumpkins in general be not nitwits.

    Why would I write about Trumpkins in general and cite a poll were I of a mind to remark upon a specific Trumpkin such as yourself or someone else?
    I am always the exception....Come On Now....I know you are better than this!
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Ignorant partisans probably applies to around 90% of those who affiliate with both major parties. Most of those are like robots when following their party's leaders. You can take it policy by policy. With Trump most Republicans back his policies, most Democrats oppose them. Hardly no one takes each policy on its merits. The same thing occurred during Obama. Most Democrats supported his policies, most Republicans opposed them. Again merits of the policy wasn't even considered by the partisans of both parties.

    This is nothing new. Not in today's day and age. Partisanship, loyalty to party does blind folks who are members of that party. They see politics and in general, the world through deep red or blue tinted glasses. Neither sees clearly. The R and the D become the most important letters in the world. One's good, the other is evil. which one is good or evil depends which one you are.

    This battle over the wall is asinine to me, as is the shutdown. Everyone knew long before the shutdown occurred that Trump had said he wouldn't sign another spending bill without funds for the wall. More than enough time to work out a compromise. If Reagan and Tip O'Neal could work out compromise after compromise on Reagan's SDI funding, so too could Trump, Pelosi and Schumer. The will has to be there to do so. Today, there is no will. Then again, partisanship wasn't as high in the Reagan/O'Neal era as it is today. Neither Ronnie or Tip had egos as big as the moon either. Not like Trump, Pelosi and Schumer.

    When political party triumphs country, you get shutdowns over 5 billion dollars out of a total of 4 trillion that will be spent this year by our government. It's not the money this fight is over. It all about both sides giving the other side nothing of what they want while getting 100% of what you want. Hence no give and take, no compromise.

    Adults could have worked this thing out long ago and avoided the shutdown completely. But when party politics entry the fray, common sense goes out the window.
    TY for a topically germane response.

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    I suppose; however, that's a profound sum of extant and entrenched ignorance if it's enough to explain the dichotomy I noted.
    I read the below linked-to poll and I started thinking about what might drive, not the actual responses folks gave, but the difference in some of the answers, particularly the differences between Republicans and Independents. Seeing those differences, I realized there shouldn't be an exogenous information-oriented reason for the difference because those catalysts are essentially the same. That means the differences must preponderantly be driven by endogenous disparities among the respondents and how they process (or don't) information.
    Partisan explains Republican v. Democrat variances of opinion. Is current partisanship that profound among GOP-ers?

    Maybe the answer is "yes," but among the GOP-ers I know (former colleagues, neighbors, former classmates, and social friends/acquaintances) that's not the case. The thing is that the folks I know well enough to know their politics aren't part of society's "norm," so I can't very well extrapolate their thoughts and ideas to society at large as I can the data from a poll.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye10 View Post
    i am always the exception....come on now....i know you are better than this!
    lol...
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Trumpkins is childish.

    You should be would be embarrassed by your behavior if you were better.
    Off-topic:
    It's the slur I allow myself.

    And, BTW, Trumpkins are puerile.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    Off-topic:
    It's the slur I allow myself.

    And, BTW, Trumpkins are puerile.
    Ya Ya....You like to stir the **** in your old age but you were always alright.

    We should be Friends you know...
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Xelor View Post
    The parties negotiating is irrelevant to the thread, it is because the OP/thread is about the people, the individuals, not the parties. The people who are Trumpkins happen to belong to the GOP, but it's the Trumpkins who the OP/thread are about.
    I happen to like Trump. I happen to hate waste, idiocy and corruption.

    Those things listed above that I hate are the things driving the people that line up to oppose Trump.

    Most if not all people that are employed by our Federal Government are in a union. Unions can expect there to be work stoppages. Absent outlandish stupidity, there are funds set aside from union dues to pay union members when work stoppages occur.

    Did the Federal Employee unions create this set aside? Of course not. It was never needed because this is the first time ever that they actually missed a check and they all get the back pay anyway.

    All of that aside, though, I'm so pleased that you dismiss about half of the country as being "stupid, intransigent, gullible-ass "mofos." You must be a Liberal!

    Enlightened, dismissive, elitist and wrong.
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    Re: Trumpkins are gullible-ass SOBs, that or they're just purely ignorant partisans

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Ignorant partisans probably applies to around 90% of those who affiliate with both major parties. Most of those are like robots when following their party's leaders. You can take it policy by policy. With Trump most Republicans back his policies, most Democrats oppose them. Hardly no one takes each policy on its merits. The same thing occurred during Obama. Most Democrats supported his policies, most Republicans opposed them. Again merits of the policy wasn't even considered by the partisans of both parties.

    This is nothing new. Not in today's day and age. Partisanship, loyalty to party does blind folks who are members of that party. They see politics and in general, the world through deep red or blue tinted glasses. Neither sees clearly. The R and the D become the most important letters in the world. One's good, the other is evil. which one is good or evil depends which one you are.

    This battle over the wall is asinine to me, as is the shutdown. Everyone knew long before the shutdown occurred that Trump had said he wouldn't sign another spending bill without funds for the wall. More than enough time to work out a compromise. If Reagan and Tip O'Neal could work out compromise after compromise on Reagan's SDI funding, so too could Trump, Pelosi and Schumer. The will has to be there to do so. Today, there is no will. Then again, partisanship wasn't as high in the Reagan/O'Neal era as it is today. Neither Ronnie or Tip had egos as big as the moon either. Not like Trump, Pelosi and Schumer.

    When political party triumphs country, you get shutdowns over 5 billion dollars out of a total of 4 trillion that will be spent this year by our government. It's not the money this fight is over. It all about both sides giving the other side nothing of what they want while getting 100% of what you want. Hence no give and take, no compromise.

    Adults could have worked this thing out long ago and avoided the shutdown completely. But when party politics entry the fray, common sense goes out the window.
    Trump has moved his position, Pelosi and Schumer have refused to budge. That's not a negotiation. There is nothing left to do but wait for the Democrats to make an offer that includes them giving up something Trump wants.

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