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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    100% wrong. Factually, jr’s tweet could be interpreted either way I described.

    Your apparent bias has obviously led you to accept the first interpretation I described. Hate and bias have corroded your ability to reason.
    That is not true.

    What he said compared walls to walls. What you infer from what he said is on you, not him.

    That is the simple truth of it and you cannot bring yourself to accept it.

    You hate Trump. I get it.

    If you cannot manufacture rationalization for your hate then it is just hate. With your rationalization, it apparently seems to you to be more like like enlightened review.

    It is not enlightened and is not review. It is hate and your hate is manufactured.

    Out of curiosity, how safe do you feel zoos would be without walls?

    How safe would the world be without walls? Can you see a wall from the place you are seated right now?
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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Most all of us live behind walls and most of us lock our doors and windows. Does that make us racist or bad people? Trump Jr. was pointing out walls at the zoo keep people from coming in contact with things that could harm them. Also the walls at the zoo protect what is being locked inside the zoo.

    If you don't want children abused and dying, support Trump in his effort to build a wall at the border, will save many lives. The wall will help not only Americans but those who break the law and put their own lives at risk doing so. Quit fighting Trump and the wall just because of your dislike for him, you're hurting way to many people with this nonsense.

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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Funny thing... everyone says that about you and you say that about everyone. Weird, huh?
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    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too:
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or being hated don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim,
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same:.
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
    And never breathe a word about your loss:
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much:
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
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    Poetry? Are you having a stroke? This is a debate website. Butch up.

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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    That is not true.
    You are confusing truth with fact. They are not the same. Factually, as jr has a history of trolling, his words can be interpreted as supporting the use of walls or comparing immigrants to animals. To argue otherwise is disingenuous and/or stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    What he said compared walls to walls. What you infer from what he said is on you, not him.
    What anyone infers from jr’s comments is their prerogative. Jr is no genius, but I do give him credit enough to form a simple double entendre meant to rile anti-Trumpers.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    That is the simple truth of it and you cannot bring yourself to accept it.

    You hate Trump. I get it.
    A failed mind reader and English tutor. I don’t hate Trump. He isn’t worthy of the energy that requires. I disdain Trump.

    And no, you don’t get it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    If you cannot manufacture rationalization for your hate then it is just hate. With your rationalization, it apparently seems to you to be more like like enlightened review.

    It is not enlightened and is not review. It is hate and your hate is manufactured.
    It isn’t enlightenment, genius, it’s being clear eyed and willing to see/acknowledge things the way they are. Try it sometime if you can.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Out of curiosity, how safe do you feel zoos would be without walls?

    How safe would the world be without walls? Can you see a wall from the place you are seated right now?
    As long as there is an effective barrier of any type, I’d feel safe. How about you? Are walls the only things that make you feel safe?

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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Poetry? Are you having a stroke? This is a debate website. Butch up.

















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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Those are racist interpretations of his words. I believe only intentional ignorance could miss the problem with Jr's statement. In fact, pretending to not see it is a dog whistle. Those three posts each might as well be, "I'm a racist".
    I am definitely a racist in racist democrat eyes. I am an old white republican. What other basis is there for democrats to feel good about labeling me racist?

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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    I am definitely a racist in racist democrat eyes. I am an old white republican. What other basis is there for democrats to feel good about labeling me racist?
    An honest interpretation of the racist horse**** you push.

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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    You are confusing truth with fact. They are not the same. Factually, as jr has a history of trolling, his words can be interpreted as supporting the use of walls or comparing immigrants to animals. To argue otherwise is disingenuous and/or stupid.


    What anyone infers from jr’s comments is their prerogative. Jr is no genius, but I do give him credit enough to form a simple double entendre meant to rile anti-Trumpers.


    A failed mind reader and English tutor. I don’t hate Trump. He isn’t worthy of the energy that requires. I disdain Trump.

    And no, you don’t get it all.


    It isn’t enlightenment, genius, it’s being clear eyed and willing to see/acknowledge things the way they are. Try it sometime if you can.


    As long as there is an effective barrier of any type, I’d feel safe. How about you? Are walls the only things that make you feel safe?


    I am currently in a house with walls. The snow is falling outside. It's cold enough so the snow on the ground is not melting. I am safe from the elements within the walls. The roof doesn't hurt.

    My safety from the elements depends on the structure surrounding me.

    Thanks for raising my rating to genius. So few people notice...
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    Re: Donald Trump Jr. compared immigrants to zoo animals in an Instagram post on the border wall

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You say that his comment was both silly --ie fatuous-- and a deliberate attempt to stoke racial tension for political advantage.

    The fact that these tactics have proven to be an effective way for Trump to bolster his base is not trivial.
    This is not the first time Donald, Jr. has said something stupid, and will not be the last. He should be kept in a cage, and as luck would have it, he is being heavily investigated for the Trump Tower meeting.




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