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    Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Why do you think the number of illegal crossings are at an all time low? What has changed that has deterred this? What exactly is it, that appears to be working?

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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Illegal immigration has been continuously dropping for the past 15 years and most illegal immigrants come through valid ports of entry, be it airports or gates with checkpoints. Considering we don't have a wall and prior to 2 years ago didn't have Trump it's obviously neither of those two that are driving the decrease.

    If you ask a Trump supporter they'll swear up and down at least a million brown criminal terrorists cross the border every day and that's why we should all be very, very terrified and hand them a blank check to erect an extremely expensive and pointless monument to Donald.

    I suggest we stay calm, don't exaggerate, and continue to do the things we've been doing the past 15 years that have actually brought us real improvement.

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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Illegal immigration has been continuously dropping for the past 15 years and most illegal immigrants come through valid ports of entry, be it airports or gates with checkpoints. Considering we don't have a wall
    We have almost 700 miles of wall in one form or another. It's one of "the things we've been doing the past 15 years that have actually brought us real improvement."

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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Illegal immigration has been continuously dropping for the past 15 years and most illegal immigrants come through valid ports of entry, be it airports or gates with checkpoints. Considering we don't have a wall and prior to 2 years ago didn't have Trump it's obviously neither of those two that are driving the decrease.

    If you ask a Trump supporter they'll swear up and down at least a million brown criminal terrorists cross the border every day and that's why we should all be very, very terrified and hand them a blank check to erect an extremely expensive and pointless monument to Donald.

    I suggest we stay calm, don't exaggerate, and continue to do the things we've been doing the past 15 years that have actually brought us real improvement.
    How many Americans killed by illegal aliens in the US is too many, in your estimation? I ask because you seem to imply that we should just tolerate the current level of crime perpetrated by illegals and that to want something done about the problem, like simply enforcing current laws on immigration, is unreasonable.

    If I don't answer your post it's because you lost the debate.

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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Illegal immigration has been continuously dropping for the past 15 years and most illegal immigrants come through valid ports of entry, be it airports or gates with checkpoints. Considering we don't have a wall and prior to 2 years ago didn't have Trump it's obviously neither of those two that are driving the decrease.

    If you ask a Trump supporter they'll swear up and down at least a million brown criminal terrorists cross the border every day and that's why we should all be very, very terrified and hand them a blank check to erect an extremely expensive and pointless monument to Donald.

    I suggest we stay calm, don't exaggerate, and continue to do the things we've been doing the past 15 years that have actually brought us real improvement.
    No, most illegal immigrants do not come in through ports of entry, this is a lie. This statistic comes from the estimated number of visa overstays outnumbering the number of ARRESTS of people caught in the act of illegally crossing. A recent study from the center for migration studied pegs the percentage of the illegal alien population who overstayed visas to be 42% which is not “most”

    Also that percentage is totally irrelevant. If 99% of illegals were overstays it would be justified to build the wall to stop the one percent
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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    No, most illegal immigrants do not come in through ports of entry, this is a lie. This statistic comes from the estimated number of visa overstays outnumbering the number of ARRESTS of people caught in the act of illegally crossing. A recent study from the center for migration studied pegs the percentage of the illegal alien population who overstayed visas to be 42% which is not “most”

    Also that percentage is totally irrelevant. If 99% of illegals were overstays it would be justified to build the wall to stop the one percent

    That make as much sense as small game hunting using buck-shot.......
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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    How many Americans killed by illegal aliens in the US is too many, in your estimation? I ask because you seem to imply that we should just tolerate the current level of crime perpetrated by illegals and that to want something done about the problem, like simply enforcing current laws on immigration, is unreasonable.
    None as long as illegal voters vote D.

    If immigrant groups voted R then the Dems would’ve built a wall visible from space and played this “if it saves one life” line they use in relation to the second amendment
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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    That make as much sense as small game hunting using buck-shot.......
    Or having a police department if there was little crime in that town. The argument that law enforcement and/or security systems are not useful unless some specific level of crime (currently?) exists is quite lame. What, exactly, is an acceptable level of illegal border crossing? What should be done if (when?) that level is reached?
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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Or having a police department if there was little crime in that town. The argument that law enforcement and/or security systems are not useful unless some specific level of crime (currently?) exists is quite lame. What, exactly, is an acceptable level of illegal border crossing? What should be done if (when?) that level is reached?
    That argument doesn’t hold water. If a community had low crime, why would they need over capacity; for example: armored vehicles, SWAT teams, and all the other “overkill.” I never stated that there should be no border security. This whole issue has developed as so many others do; it’s not black and white, but it has fallen along political lines and is “all-in or fold,” at this point.
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    Re: Why is illegal border crossing at an 'all time low'?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    How many Americans killed by illegal aliens in the US is too many, in your estimation? I ask because you seem to imply that we should just tolerate the current level of crime perpetrated by illegals and that to want something done about the problem, like simply enforcing current laws on immigration, is unreasonable.
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