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    Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through


    Prototype of Trumps steel-slat/steel-bollard border wall.

    1/10/19
    President Donald Trump has repeatedly advocated for a steel slat design for his border wall, which he described as "absolutely critical to border security" in his Oval Office address to the nation Tuesday. But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slat prototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS. A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol personnel were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools. The Trump administration directed the construction of eight steel and concrete prototype walls that were built in Otay Mesa, California, just across the border from Tijuana, Mexico. Trump inspected the prototypes in March 2018. He has now settled on a steel slat, or steel bollard, design for the proposed border barrier additions. Steel bollard fencing has been used under previous administrations. However, testing by DHS in late 2017 showed all eight prototypes, including the steel slats, were vulnerable to breaching, according to an internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report. Photos of the breaches were not included in a redacted version of the CBP report, which was first obtained in a Freedom of Information Act Request by San Diego public broadcaster KPBS.

    Responding to the picture from the South Lawn of the White House on Thursday morning, Trump claimed "that’s a wall designed by previous administrations." While it is true that previous administrations used this design, the prototype was built during his administration. In a statement, DHS Spokeswoman Katie Waldman said, "The steel bollard construction is based on the operational requirements of the United States Border Patrol and is a design that has been honed over more than a decade of use. It is an important part of Border Patrol's impedance and denial capability." In response to KPBS, CBP spokesman Ralph DeSio said the prototypes "were not and cannot be designed to be indestructible," but were designed to "impede or deny efforts to scale, breach, or dig under such a barrier, giving agents time to respond." In his address to the nation Tuesday, Trump said the steel fence design is "what our professionals at the border want and need. This is just common sense." House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson, D.-Miss., said there is "nothing special" about Trump's wall design. "President Trump likes to pretend a wall will solve all our problems, but it's been clear for some time that it is little more than a very expensive vanity project," said Thompson. "Whether steel or concrete, there is nothing special about his wall and it will not secure our borders.
    $5 billion for this? I could cut through those slats in minutes with a power hacksaw/pipe-saw and be long gone by the time CBP either knew about the breach or arrived at the scene.

    Not only that, but the concrete prototype walls were also breached in DHS tests.


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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through


    Prototype of Trumps steel-slat/steel-bollard border wall.



    $5 billion for this? I could cut through those slats in minutes with a power hacksaw/pipe-saw and be long gone by the time CBP either knew about the breach or arrived at the scene.

    Not only that, but the concrete prototype walls were also breached in DHS tests.
    How many "minutes"?

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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    This is Trump's bestest choice after changing his mind about the concrete he wanted before he didn't want it and said he never said he did? (only he did say it.)
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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How many "minutes"?
    Minutes is less than hours or days. Steel wall/fences allow the "invaders" to be miles away before anyone notices.
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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    This is Trump's bestest choice after changing his mind about the concrete he wanted before he didn't want it and said he never said he did? (only he did say it.)
    Makeup some more nonsense. Trump never said this is the design we will build.

    This is the EXISTING DESIGN.

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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Minutes is less than hours or days. Steel wall/fences allow the "invaders" to be miles away before anyone notices.
    Yes. It oftentimes takes CBP over an hour to get to different places on the border.

    Bada-bing, bada-boom. Slats are cut and the kiddies are gone.


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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How many "minutes"?
    How long it would take to cut it depends on lots of things but if it took an Ironworker more than15 or 20 seconds to climb that he should change trades.
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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through


    Prototype of Trumps steel-slat/steel-bollard border wall.



    $5 billion for this? I could cut through those slats in minutes with a power hacksaw/pipe-saw and be long gone by the time CBP either knew about the breach or arrived at the scene.

    Not only that, but the concrete prototype walls were also breached in DHS tests.
    Do you never rad your own links?


    This is an EXISTING DESIGN, from PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS.


    Der...

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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How many "minutes"?
    These in the picture have been cut by a torch.

    You can't see the zig zagged crap cutting from a poorly skilled torch user? I surely can.

    I doubt you would know a cutting torch from a power hack saw to begin with.
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    Re: Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Do you never rad your own links?


    This is an EXISTING DESIGN, from PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS.


    Der...
    It was tested as a prototype for THIS administration. Trump inspected 8 different prototypes in March 2018.

    All 8 prototypes - steel and concrete - were breached in DHS tests.


    We are now in → Day 30 ← of the Donald Trump/Mitch McConnell government shutdown.

    "I can't just reopen the government .. I would look foolish if I did that." - Donald J. Trump

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