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    Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Now Trump is at war with the generals



    1/2/19
    President Donald Trump is at war with the generals. The latest salvo in that war came on New Year's morning -- not traditionally a time for recrimination -- in a presidential tweet that denigrated retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal. Trump tweeted, "'General' McChrystal got fired like a dog by Obama. Last assignment a total bust. Known for big, dumb mouth. Hillary lover!" This tweet followed an interview that McChrystal gave to ABC's Martha Raddatz on Sunday in which he described Trump as both immoral and dishonest. Trump is known for being a counter-puncher, so on one level it's not surprising he reacted this way to McChrystal's withering criticism. But when you step back, the degree to which Trump is battling America's generals is startling, considering how he began his presidency. Trump came into office besotted by military brass, appointing retired four star Gen. James Mattis as his secretary of defense, retired four star Gen. John Kelly as his secretary of homeland security and later chief of staff, and retired three star Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn as his national security adviser. After Flynn was forced out of the White House, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster assumed the role of national security adviser. Now, two years later, Trump is eager to tear down the generals.

    The differences between Trump and US military leaders are more than simply stylistic, although Trump's lack of decorum and rudeness are certainly at odds with the military's honor-based values. The military tends to want to sustain overseas military commitments, which they see as vital to securing world order, whether that is to defeat ISIS, or to contain a nuclear-armed North Korea, or to prevent Afghanistan from reverting into control by the Taliban. Trump believes he was elected to end foreign entanglements and that alliances like NATO are "ripping off" the United States, while US military leaders are keenly aware that NATO allies have been fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with them since the 9/11 attacks. The policy differences between Trump and the military were underlined by Mattis's resignation, which came as a result of Trump announcing a total withdrawal of the 2,000 US troops in Syria. Mattis appears to have resigned because this decision was made in an arbitrary way and without consulting allies. Trump has now made a sharp break with Kelly, Mattis, McChrystal, McRaven, and McMaster, some of the leading American generals and admirals of our era. Why Trump, even given his policy disagreements, would pick a war with the military leaders he once so publicly admired is a puzzle that future historians will surely try to unpack.
    Commander ChickenSpurs, who once spouted: "I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me." is now at war with the generals.

    And with government workers. And with Robert Mueller. And with the Fed Chairman. And with the Media. And with .....


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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    We already knew that Trump has zero respect for our military or its personnel.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We already knew that Trump has zero respect for our military or its personnel.
    Yesh, he is a dangerous POS, that's for sure.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We already knew that Trump has zero respect for our military or its personnel.
    Only I can do it is how he thinks. It is incompatible with his office. We fought a war back in the 1700's to stop such people from ruling us.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Only I can do it is how he thinks. It is incompatible with his office.
    He has certainly demonstrated himself to be a very atrocious and childish President.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Now Trump is at war with the generals





    Commander ChickenSpurs, who once spouted: "I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me." is now at war with the generals.

    And with government workers. And with Robert Mueller. And with the Fed Chairman. And with the Media. And with .....
    No self respecting person supports this miserable, military-hating idiot.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Now Trump is at war with the generals





    Commander ChickenSpurs, who once spouted: "I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me." is now at war with the generals.

    And with government workers. And with Robert Mueller. And with the Fed Chairman. And with the Media. And with .....
    1. McChrystal is no longer a general.

    2. Generals answer to the president. Not the other way around.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yesh, he is a dangerous POS, that's for sure.
    Infinitely less dangerous if our military has the same regard for him

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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1. McChrystal is no longer a general.

    2. Generals answer to the president. Not the other way around.
    Sad that Trump is such a sniveling pussy.
    Well, he see this one particularly hot chick and not does she bag he slackjawed, but he lets a "Whoa" slip out

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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1. McChrystal is no longer a general.
    And? He is still a retired general.

    2. Generals answer to the president. Not the other way around.
    And? Where has anyone said otherwise? However, Commander Bonespurs Trump thinks he knows more than his generals.

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