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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And once a general, always a general, unless demoted.

    Even after retirement (he was specifically granted full pension by Obama). But acknowledging that would mean he was wrong, and we know that Hell will freeze over before that happens.
    All military retirees get their pension when they retire. Obama didn't grant McChrystal some special authority.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

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    All military retirees get their pension when they retire. Obama didn't grant McChrystal some special authority.
    Wrong. Because of the circumstances, Obama could have done so and specifically did not. Any military personnel can be kicked out dishonorably and denied pension/benefits. McCrystall was removed, and 'allowed to retire with full pension.' Dont you ever get tired of being completely wrong?

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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Wrong. Because of the circumstances, Obama could have done so and specifically did not. Any military personnel can be kicked out dishonorably and denied pension/benefits. McCrystall was removed, and 'allowed to retire with full pension.' Dont you ever get tired of being completely wrong?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...65S6ZL20100629
    He was relieved of his command, not kicked out of the service. Do you ever get tired of going out of your way to highlight your ignorance?
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Now Trump is at war with the generals
    What's "now" got to do with it? Trump's attitudes haven't changed, only his rhetoric.

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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He was relieved of his command, not kicked out of the service. Do you ever get tired of going out of your way to highlight your ignorance?
    Yup and people relieved of command dont necessarily get their full pension...or any...when they retire. After he was relieved of command, he retired.


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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yup and people relieved of command dont necessarily get their full pension...or any...when they retire. After he was relieved of command, he retired.


    Keep going...you're very familiar with this process...I guess you enjoy it or get some kind of disturbing gratification out of public humiliation. Have at it.
    There's nothing the president can do revoke a general's pension, or anyone else's, regardless of rank.

    The only way to dishonorably discharge a general is through courts martial. Again, the president has no say in those matters.

    Stop trying to claim Obama "allowed" McChrystal to keep his pension.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's nothing the president can do revoke a general's pension, or anyone else's, regardless of rank.

    The only way to dishonorably discharge a general is through courts martial. Again, the president has no say in those matters.

    Stop trying to claim Obama "allowed" McChrystal to keep his pension.
    And yet the article said otherwise. He could have courtmartialed him. He didnt need that, McCrystal resigned.

    Obviously he didnt find further action needed and not only that, granted him his FULL pension.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Trump will be irrelevant fairly soon. I think the best course of action at this juncture is to simply ignore him. The child loves attention. Best not give him what he wants.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And yet the article said otherwise. He could have courtmartialed him. He didnt need that, McCrystal resigned.

    Obviously he didnt find further action needed and not only that, granted him his FULL pension.
    Relieving him of his command was the only action Obama could legally take. The president can't order a service member be court martialed. It's called "unlawful command influence" and it's illegal.
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    Re: Now Trump is at war with the generals

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Relieving him of his command was the only action Obama could legally take. The president can't order a service member be court martialed. It's called "unlawful command influence" and it's illegal.
    You cant read well, but that's not news. I also noted that by granting him his FULL pension...which he didnt have to do...indicated Obama's position. No further action in his opinion was called for.
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