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    Climate scientists give clear warning

    A group of Climate Scientists that agree with the concerns skeptics have regarding frantic alarmism have been doing extensive research, looking at the issue more moderately and objectively, and are predicting that there may be a significant reduction of the Polar Ice caps by 2300 if we don't act quickly. Given the trends regarding greenhouse gas emissions, the first signs may start appearing as early as 2150. However, the wheels will be set inevitably in motion very quickly if we don't do something soon. It will simply take longer to start happening than previously thought. This is the kind of objective research we need to get behind and fund while there is still time.

    https://theconversation.com/why-scie...ear-2300-92236

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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate71 View Post
    A group of Climate Scientists that agree with the concerns skeptics have regarding frantic alarmism have been doing extensive research, looking at the issue more moderately and objectively, and are predicting that there may be a significant reduction of the Polar Ice caps by 2300 if we don't act quickly. Given the trends regarding greenhouse gas emissions, the first signs may start appearing as early as 2150. However, the wheels will be set inevitably in motion very quickly if we don't do something soon. It will simply take longer to start happening than previously thought. This is the kind of objective research we need to get behind and fund while there is still time.

    https://theconversation.com/why-scie...ear-2300-92236
    Here is the problem. They have been saying that my entire life and despite the us increasing in population by 30% roughly 100 million people we are producing the same amount of carbon. So we clearly have made strides and by doing very little. Also every prediction about rising temperatures based on carbon in the atmosphere has been way too high. We clearly don’t understand exactly how carbon and warming work together.

    So anyone making a doomsday prediction I simply don’t find credible

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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Here is the problem. They have been saying that my entire life and despite the us increasing in population by 30% roughly 100 million people we are producing the same amount of carbon. So we clearly have made strides and by doing very little. Also every prediction about rising temperatures based on carbon in the atmosphere has been way too high. We clearly don’t understand exactly how carbon and warming work together.

    So anyone making a doomsday prediction I simply don’t find credible
    They were hasty in their predictions. They are refining the science and now realize it will take far longer, probably over 100 years before we start seeing signs.

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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

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    They were hasty in their predictions. They are refining the science and now realize it will take far longer, probably over 100 years before we start seeing signs.
    Here’s the problem though, they are claiming the risk is just as dire as ever but that the signs have been pushed back 100 years. It’s essentially an invisible threat that they can use to justify any policy they want.

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    Let me guess: if we don't give them billions in research money and create more government control over the private sector, we're ****ed.

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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate71 View Post
    A group of Climate Scientists that agree with the concerns skeptics have regarding frantic alarmism have been doing extensive research, looking at the issue more moderately and objectively, and are predicting that there may be a significant reduction of the Polar Ice caps by 2300 if we don't act quickly. Given the trends regarding greenhouse gas emissions, the first signs may start appearing as early as 2150. However, the wheels will be set inevitably in motion very quickly if we don't do something soon. It will simply take longer to start happening than previously thought. This is the kind of objective research we need to get behind and fund while there is still time.

    https://theconversation.com/why-scie...ear-2300-92236


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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

    The study doesn’t refute the claim that climate change will have devastating effects the next decades. Instead the study show that even with net zero emissions of C02 from today you will still have sea level rises for a very long time because of the temperature increase that have already happened.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-02985-8

    While it still worth taking action to combat climate change because you can reduce both the short time and long time term devastating effects. Also there are still hope that different carbon capture techniques may in the future reverse C02 levels there those measures will be less costly and less hard to accomplish if we act today.

    There even federal reports published during Trump’s presidency warns about the devastating effects from climate caused by fossil fuels.

    https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

    https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

    Renewable energy could also become a bipartisan in US just like it already have become in other countries. That already are wind or solar power the cheapest electricity option in most Republican congressional districts.

    "Republicans from Texas to Iowa regularly extoll the virtues of renewables like wind and solar power, and for good reason. Rural Republican districts are often the locations with the best solar and wind resources, and when those resources are harnessed they bring good jobs to places where new sources of employment are often otherwise scarce. In fact, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’ #1 and #2 fastest growing jobs in the U.S. are solar panel installers and wind turbine technicians. These jobs are good, solid middle class jobs with annual salaries pushing close to six-figures. Beyond construction, the plants (particularly wind farms, with their many moving parts) offer good jobs in the long term."


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuar.../#19e1ae563da7

    Even if you still have politicians like Donald Trump that wants to spend billions of dollars propping up unprofitable coal plants.

    https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...d-power-plants

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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate71 View Post
    A group of Climate Scientists that agree with the concerns skeptics have regarding frantic alarmism have been doing extensive research, looking at the issue more moderately and objectively, and are predicting that there may be a significant reduction of the Polar Ice caps by 2300 if we don't act quickly. Given the trends regarding greenhouse gas emissions, the first signs may start appearing as early as 2150. However, the wheels will be set inevitably in motion very quickly if we don't do something soon. It will simply take longer to start happening than previously thought. This is the kind of objective research we need to get behind and fund while there is still time.

    https://theconversation.com/why-scie...ear-2300-92236
    It is indeed too late. Too late, that is, for these government climate advocates to try to start sounding reasonable.

    They have lost their credibility with anyone who matters, which is why most governments only give lip service and a few token actions to the climate issue. I predict that it will be a long time before they get their credibility back, if ever.

    My question is this: How long will it take for the people behind the funding of climate doom research to learn that their money isn't taking the world where they want it to go? That is, toward an authoritarian world government.* When are they going to cut their losses?

    *Nope, not just a conspiracy theory. Explicit calls have been made for exactly that.

    If I don't answer your post it's because you lost the debate.

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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    The study doesn’t refute the claim that climate change will have devastating effects the next decades. Instead the study show that even with net zero emissions of C02 from today you will still have sea level rises for a very long time because of the temperature increase that have already happened.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-02985-8

    While it still worth taking action to combat climate change because you can reduce both the short time and long time term devastating effects. Also there are still hope that different carbon capture techniques may in the future reverse C02 levels there those measures will be less costly and less hard to accomplish if we act today.

    There even federal reports published during Trump’s presidency warns about the devastating effects from climate caused by fossil fuels.

    https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

    https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

    Renewable energy could also become a bipartisan in US just like it already have become in other countries. That already are wind or solar power the cheapest electricity option in most Republican congressional districts.

    "Republicans from Texas to Iowa regularly extoll the virtues of renewables like wind and solar power, and for good reason. Rural Republican districts are often the locations with the best solar and wind resources, and when those resources are harnessed they bring good jobs to places where new sources of employment are often otherwise scarce. In fact, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’ #1 and #2 fastest growing jobs in the U.S. are solar panel installers and wind turbine technicians. These jobs are good, solid middle class jobs with annual salaries pushing close to six-figures. Beyond construction, the plants (particularly wind farms, with their many moving parts) offer good jobs in the long term."


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuar.../#19e1ae563da7

    Even if you still have politicians like Donald Trump that wants to spend billions of dollars propping up unprofitable coal plants.

    https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...d-power-plants
    None of the proposed solutions for climate change that are politically or economically feasible will have a significant effect on the climate according to the government climate scientists' models. Link

    If I don't answer your post it's because you lost the debate.

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    Re: Climate scientists give clear warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate71 View Post
    A group of Climate Scientists that agree with the concerns skeptics have regarding frantic alarmism have been doing extensive research, looking at the issue more moderately and objectively, and are predicting that there may be a significant reduction of the Polar Ice caps by 2300 if we don't act quickly. Given the trends regarding greenhouse gas emissions, the first signs may start appearing as early as 2150. However, the wheels will be set inevitably in motion very quickly if we don't do something soon. It will simply take longer to start happening than previously thought. This is the kind of objective research we need to get behind and fund while there is still time.

    https://theconversation.com/why-scie...ear-2300-92236
    Pffft.

    The USA has millions of people who never made it past elementary school science, but they know far more than these tens of thousands of silly scientists who only spent their entire lives devoted to learning about climatology.

    Fake news! "It snowed at my house. There ain't no global warming, my Mama taught me that and Jesus agreed with Mama. What a bunch of morans, they shoulda been home schooled like me. Yuck yuck yuck."

    Amirite?!!??!



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