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Trump Train Losing Steam

iguanaman said:
Actually I could care less how many "shell" companies that Trump has to cover up his criminal deeds. The idea that covering up criminality is "smart" is purely for his entranced sycophants. It is evil and he is living on borrowed time before he faces that fact that he has put many in his family in jail with his "intelligence".
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OK, venting, please go with that on someone else.


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Bullseye said:
So . . . not a Democrat. I agree.
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No, pretty much anybody.

Junkie. Homeless. Schizophrenic.

Emancipation near anybody with a pulse.

Trump is a waste of human flesh.

Always has been.
 
calamity said:
He who laughs last laughs loudest. And, I guarantee you that I will have the last laugh on this Trump Train Wreck thang.
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What are you willing to bet to ensure your empty guarantee?

We, on this side, have already laughed last over and over and over and over :lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo... we now just :shrug: at the vapid banality of the stampede of stupidity over the cliff of redundant irrelevancies by your side.

Hey, how about wasting only your own time... don't waste ours.
 
zimmer said:
... but unless you’ve been under a rock... the press has been a Goebbels-like propaganda arm of the anti-American aka Democrat Party.
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Reality is not propaganda, no matter how much Trump's base would like to construe it as so.

Democrats are awful losers.
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Stated in the same post he whinges because all the media doesn't scrape and prostrate like Hannity. SMH.
 
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Gaugingcatenate said:
What are you willing to bet to ensure your empty guarantee?

We, on this side, have already laughed last over and over and over and over :lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo... we now just :shrug: at the vapid banality of the stampede of stupidity over the cliff of redundant irrelevancies by your side.

Hey, how about wasting only your own time... don't waste ours.
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The only truth in the above post is that your side is laughed at, over and over again.
 
Luckyone said:
The Trump Train is losing steam! From November 2016 to November 2017, 5% of Republicans left the party. I was not able to find any recent statistics but most of the "good stuff" that Trump has done came in the first year, suggesting that if a poll was taken now, it would be much higher.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/trumps-victory-1-year-later/data-republican-party-id-drops-after-trump-election-n828141

On another article, it is said that in 2014, white college educated women favored a Democratic Congress by 2% but on a recent poll that number has gone up to 22%.

These statistics were certainly proved to be right in the mid-term elections.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/08/donald-trump-women-gop-221080

Simply stated, Trump is losing support and therefore is likely too lose the 2020 election.
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Mission Control ... We have a problem.DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Because President Trump had overflow sell-out crowds wherever he went before the
Midterms.The sole reason the GOP lost the house was easy.Over 40 Republicans
decided to Retire from the House.As usual and predicatable as a raccoon wanting to knock the
lid off a metal garbage can,these Lying,Deceiving Dimocrats and their sychopantic toadies in the
MSM are out and about conning and creating false impressions,every hour about this President and
his base.This is part of the strategy.To knock Trump constantly hoping that his base of support will
weaken and eventually show signs of letting up.WRONG !!. How about double wronged.That same strategy
was used to knock-out Brett Kavanaugh from being a Supreme Court Justice.The same strategy is
being employed to catapult Mueller as this distinguished { and yes a Republican } Special Prosecutor
out to help get to the bottom of Russian Collusion.How about the Hillary Uraniusm deal collusion.
Or That Steele Dossier.
The MSM is w/o any doubt The Enemy of the People.It's proven sometimes every hour.Surely every day.
Facebook had been outted.As had Google.It's how Obama beat Mitt Romney in 2012.A corrupted MSM
along with massive help from Facebook and Google.
As in the great Billy Wilder Comedy in the mid-1960's - The Fortune Cookie -
let on ... You can fool Some of the People All of the time.You can even fool All of the people
Some of the time.But you can't fool All of the people All of the time.
That is what Obama thought he could pull.His MSM still believes dat.
 
calamity said:
The only truth in the above post is that your side is laughed at, over and over again.
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:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo

C'mon now, don't be afraid, so what is your guaranteed bet buddy? Backing down that quick does not show much faith NOR resolve. Yano?

No, absolutely you don't know. How could you?
 
smallvoice said:
Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it. I thought you were a smart guy, but that attitude says something entirely different and keeps you from learning from past mistakes.
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Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it

This comment that you are making as a criticism of me is pure irony, given that you support Trump and he is the prime example of someone that "does not understand history and is doomed to repeat it".

Since you say that my attitude says I am not smart, what does it say about Trump?
 
foolardi said:
Mission Control ... We have a problem.DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Because President Trump had overflow sell-out crowds wherever he went before the
Midterms.The sole reason the GOP lost the house was easy.Over 40 Republicans
decided to Retire from the House.As usual and predicatable as a raccoon wanting to knock the
lid off a metal garbage can,these Lying,Deceiving Dimocrats and their sychopantic toadies in the
MSM are out and about conning and creating false impressions,every hour about this President and
his base.This is part of the strategy.To knock Trump constantly hoping that his base of support will
weaken and eventually show signs of letting up.WRONG !!. How about double wronged.That same strategy
was used to knock-out Brett Kavanaugh from being a Supreme Court Justice.The same strategy is
being employed to catapult Mueller as this distinguished { and yes a Republican } Special Prosecutor
out to help get to the bottom of Russian Collusion.How about the Hillary Uraniusm deal collusion.
Or That Steele Dossier.
The MSM is w/o any doubt The Enemy of the People.It's proven sometimes every hour.Surely every day.
Facebook had been outted.As had Google.It's how Obama beat Mitt Romney in 2012.A corrupted MSM
along with massive help from Facebook and Google.
As in the great Billy Wilder Comedy in the mid-1960's - The Fortune Cookie -
let on ... You can fool Some of the People All of the time.You can even fool All of the people
Some of the time.But you can't fool All of the people All of the time.
That is what Obama thought he could pull.His MSM still believes dat.
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You are totally blind and not worth responding to. Trump has given evidence after evidence of his failings. More proof came out over the past few days, now with Trump having to close his charitable foundation because it was not used for charity but for his own slush fund. You tell me what kind of person opens a charity fund and pays for paintings of himself with those funds.

Geez, you are so far out on your thinking that you should go to back to kindergarten and start learning what is right and wrong
 
Just what historical President was anything like Trump? OBTW, it was you, by your attitude, who said you weren't a smart guy, not me.
Luckyone said:
Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it

This comment that you are making as a criticism of me is pure irony, given that you support Trump and he is the prime example of someone that "does not understand history and is doomed to repeat it".

Since you say that my attitude says I am not smart, what does it say about Trump?
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Luckyone said:
The Trump Train is losing steam! From November 2016 to November 2017, 5% of Republicans left the party. I was not able to find any recent statistics but most of the "good stuff" that Trump has done came in the first year, suggesting that if a poll was taken now, it would be much higher.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/trumps-victory-1-year-later/data-republican-party-id-drops-after-trump-election-n828141

On another article, it is said that in 2014, white college educated women favored a Democratic Congress by 2% but on a recent poll that number has gone up to 22%.

These statistics were certainly proved to be right in the mid-term elections.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/08/donald-trump-women-gop-221080

Simply stated, Trump is losing support and therefore is likely too lose the 2020 election.
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According to Gallup, there hasn't been much change at all. Nov 2016 Republicans 27%, Democrats 31%, Nov 2017 Republicans 25%, Democrats 30%, Nov 2018 Republicans 28%, Democrats 31%.

If so what changed. Remember Trump won the independent vote 46-42 over Hillary Clinton with 12% voting third party. According to Gallup, 54% of all independents disliked or had an unfavorable view of both Hillary and Trump.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...andidates.aspx

Trump won independents because more of them disliked Hillary more than they disliked Trump.

That 12% who voted third party disliked both Trump and Clinton. The 42% who voted for Hillary liked her more than Trump, the 46% voted for Trump liked him more than Hillary. Fast forward to 2018, independents voted for Democratic congressional candidates 54-42%. Do the quick math. 42% who liked Hillary plus 12% who disliked both candidates as shown by them voting third party. You have 54%. The exact percentage of independents that voted Democratic in 2018.

2016 revolved for independents the disliked of both candidates, 57% disliking Trump and not wanting him to become their next president, 70% of independents disliking Clinton not wanting her to be their next president. Questions 10 and 11.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.ne...bReport_lv.pdf

A whole bunch of independents voted for the candidate they least wanted to lose, not the one they wanted to win. 2018, there was no Hillary Clinton on the ballot to counter independents dislike of Trump. Independents over whelming voted Democratic. I think the two results says a lot about both candidates in 2016 and then about President Trump today. Only Democrats liked Clinton, only Republicans liked Trump. Independents disliked both. This leads me to wonder if another Democrat had been their nominee if we wouldn't have a democrat in the White House today? I think that is for sure. My adage or motto for 2016 is that the Republicans tried to hand the White House to the democrats on a silver platter by nominating Trump. The Democrats threw that silver platter right back in the Republicans face by nominating someone as disliked by America as a whole as Trump was. As they say, the rest is history. 2018 shows the true disdain for Trump since no Hillary Clinton was there to rescue him or to save the GOP.
 
Perotista said:
According to Gallup, there hasn't been much change at all. Nov 2016 Republicans 27%, Democrats 31%, Nov 2017 Republicans 25%, Democrats 30%, Nov 2018 Republicans 28%, Democrats 31%.

If so what changed. Remember Trump won the independent vote 46-42 over Hillary Clinton with 12% voting third party. According to Gallup, 54% of all independents disliked or had an unfavorable view of both Hillary and Trump.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...andidates.aspx

Trump won independents because more of them disliked Hillary more than they disliked Trump.

That 12% who voted third party disliked both Trump and Clinton. The 42% who voted for Hillary liked her more than Trump, the 46% voted for Trump liked him more than Hillary. Fast forward to 2018, independents voted for Democratic congressional candidates 54-42%. Do the quick math. 42% who liked Hillary plus 12% who disliked both candidates as shown by them voting third party. You have 54%. The exact percentage of independents that voted Democratic in 2018.

2016 revolved for independents the disliked of both candidates, 57% disliking Trump and not wanting him to become their next president, 70% of independents disliking Clinton not wanting her to be their next president. Questions 10 and 11.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.ne...bReport_lv.pdf

A whole bunch of independents voted for the candidate they least wanted to lose, not the one they wanted to win. 2018, there was no Hillary Clinton on the ballot to counter independents dislike of Trump. Independents over whelming voted Democratic. I think the two results says a lot about both candidates in 2016 and then about President Trump today. Only Democrats liked Clinton, only Republicans liked Trump. Independents disliked both. This leads me to wonder if another Democrat had been their nominee if we wouldn't have a democrat in the White House today? I think that is for sure. My adage or motto for 2016 is that the Republicans tried to hand the White House to the democrats on a silver platter by nominating Trump. The Democrats threw that silver platter right back in the Republicans face by nominating someone as disliked by America as a whole as Trump was. As they say, the rest is history. 2018 shows the true disdain for Trump since no Hillary Clinton was there to rescue him or to save the GOP.
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My post was not about Republicans and Democrats but about Trump supporters
 
Luckyone said:
My post was not about Republicans and Democrats but about Trump supporters
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Trump is just as popular among Republicans today as he was on inauguration day. The GOP hasn't dropped in numbers either. at the end of January 2017, shortly after Trump's inauguration 57% of republicans had a very favorable view of him, 26% somewhat favorable. Question 125

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/pyonz5d0lq/econTabReport.pdf

today, 58% of republicans view Trump very favorably, 22% somewhat favorably. Question 32A

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ppsei7g0oq/econTabReport.pdf

No change. No change in the percentage basically of the electorate either. 88% of republicans voted for Trump in 2016

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

94% of republicans voted for Republican congressional candidates in 2018

https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit-polls

It's not republicans that changed. It is independents that have deserted Trump. From Independents voting 46-42 Trump over Hillary to independents voting 54-42 for democratic congressional candidates. Democrats FYI, 89% voted for Hillary in 2016, 95% voted for democratic congressional candidates in 2018. The only thing that changed wasn't Republican support or Democratic support for their candidates, in 2018 both improved a few percentage points for each party. It was independents that changed their support.

Whether or not you admit that, it is irrelevant. But the numbers are there for one and all to see.
 
Luckyone said:
The Trump Train is losing steam! From November 2016 to November 2017, 5% of Republicans left the party. I was not able to find any recent statistics but most of the "good stuff" that Trump has done came in the first year, suggesting that if a poll was taken now, it would be much higher.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/trumps-victory-1-year-later/data-republican-party-id-drops-after-trump-election-n828141

On another article, it is said that in 2014, white college educated women favored a Democratic Congress by 2% but on a recent poll that number has gone up to 22%.

These statistics were certainly proved to be right in the mid-term elections.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/08/donald-trump-women-gop-221080

Simply stated, Trump is losing support and therefore is likely too lose the 2020 election.
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Three Kansas lawmakers abandon Republican Party, become Dems

Elected officials don’t often switch parties, which is why it raised a few eyebrows last week when Kansas state Sen. Barbara Bollier announced she was giving up on the Republican Party and becoming a Democrat.

“Morally, the party is not going where my compass resides,” Bollier explained. “I’m looking forward to being in a party that represents the ideals that I do, including Medicaid expansion and funding our K-12 schools.”​
 
zimmer said:
ROTFLOL...

His approval numbers are as high as Obama’s at this point in his presidency...

... and he has a Democrat House and their idiocies to expose for 2-years.

The fun has only begun.

PS. Remember... Trump isn’t lame like a Bush, McCain or Romney... he fights back... and does so skillfully and successfully. It’s why he is POTUS and Criminal Hillary is not.
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Hillary's a criminal you say? Why isn't she in convicted or pleading guilty like everyone around trump is?
 
Perotista said:
Trump is just as popular among Republicans today as he was on inauguration day. The GOP hasn't dropped in numbers either. at the end of January 2017, shortly after Trump's inauguration 57% of republicans had a very favorable view of him, 26% somewhat favorable. Question 125

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/pyonz5d0lq/econTabReport.pdf

today, 58% of republicans view Trump very favorably, 22% somewhat favorably. Question 32A

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ppsei7g0oq/econTabReport.pdf

No change. No change in the percentage basically of the electorate either. 88% of republicans voted for Trump in 2016

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

94% of republicans voted for Republican congressional candidates in 2018

https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit-polls

It's not republicans that changed. It is independents that have deserted Trump. From Independents voting 46-42 Trump over Hillary to independents voting 54-42 for democratic congressional candidates. Democrats FYI, 89% voted for Hillary in 2016, 95% voted for democratic congressional candidates in 2018. The only thing that changed wasn't Republican support or Democratic support for their candidates, in 2018 both improved a few percentage points for each party. It was independents that changed their support.

Whether or not you admit that, it is irrelevant. But the numbers are there for one and all to see.
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that does not jive with this information

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/06/14/trump-owns-a-shrinking-republican-party/
 
Luckyone said:
The Trump Train is losing steam! From November 2016 to November 2017, 5% of Republicans left the party. I was not able to find any recent statistics but most of the "good stuff" that Trump has done came in the first year, suggesting that if a poll was taken now, it would be much higher.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/trumps-victory-1-year-later/data-republican-party-id-drops-after-trump-election-n828141

On another article, it is said that in 2014, white college educated women favored a Democratic Congress by 2% but on a recent poll that number has gone up to 22%.

These statistics were certainly proved to be right in the mid-term elections.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/08/donald-trump-women-gop-221080

Simply stated, Trump is losing support and therefore is likely too lose the 2020 election.
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Unsaved Americans stand on shifting sands of selfishness, greed and godlessness. They favor politicians who make them feel good about sin. It is no wonder support for democrats is on the rise and the moral fiber of America as a whole continues to decay.
 
code1211 said:
I'm more interested in having an efective leader with a clear vision of what needs to be done and a strong sense of what's best for the USA.

The "better person" is not always an effective leader. Churchill was pretty much reviled by his opposition, but he was the essential man in Britain in 1941.

In the real world, ignoring the butt hurt lefties still smarting from their darling booting the election, Trump is doing/has done a very respectable job judging him on actual results instead of the butt hurt.

Even the Russians have stopped paying Bill a half million dollars per speech. Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
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Well the so-called leader in the white house now is neither effective or a better person. He's in the pocket of Putin and Russian money.

B. Clinton was a choirboy compared to trump and 10 times the pres. without being the scum trump is and not only

created 22 million jobs while balancing 3 budgets and paid off debt. He left W a good economy but true to repub...had to rape it.

And half a mill is peanuts. Reagan got $2 million for a speech and that was 1989 or 90 IIRC. 6 repub senators went to Moscow

around this July 4th of all dates. Why ? Lining up speeches ?

Oh how the republican brand is now irrevocably heading down the path of the Whigs, into the dustbin of history.

Example: NO evidence, I repeat NO evidence oh but...but: That’s the question raised in the forthcoming book Clinton Cash by author and political consultant Peter Schweizer. On the Sunday shows, Schweizer said that while his research uncovered no proof of a quid pro quo between foreign interests and the 2016 Democratic frontrunner, the evidence does suggest a troubling trend.

The evidence on that standard is that the repubs have almost killed America and has been their 'troubling trend'

since 1980.

Troubling trend my ass. Again, just as in Clinton's trial by the right, and all of 6 years and $60 million got nothing

and the right just gives this guy a pass and the left well now. I mean trump may have conflicts of interest up the ass

and just may be a criminal. But hey, at least there is no troubling trend here. [sic]

I could never imagine even close to 50 million people in America being complete absolute hypocritical godless morons.
 
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Luckyone said:
that does not jive with this information

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/06/14/trump-owns-a-shrinking-republican-party/
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That's a 14 June article which very well could have been valid back in June. 6 Months Ago. Party affiliation and Identification is very dynamic and changes all the time. Fact is looking at December polls, not June, one finds Trump is as popular among Republicans today as he was on election day and on his inauguration day. Trump is hated by most Democrats as much as they hated him on election day, inauguration day to today.

Look at independents, election day 40% favorable, 57% unfavorable. Question 11

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

Independents right after Trump inauguration, January 2017, 43% favorable, 41% unfavorable. Question 125

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/pyonz5d0lq/econTabReport.pdf

Independents today, 39% favorable, 50% unfavorable. Question 50A

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/6lj541oi1z/econTabReport.pdf

Independents has gone from 40% to 43% down to 39% today. That's not that much of a Change. So ask yourself why in 2016 Hillary received only 42% of the independent vote while in 2018 independents went overwhelming Democratic in congressional races 54-42. The dislike of Trump was always there for independents, it just so happened in 2016, candidates matter, there was a candidate they disliked more than Trump and voted accordingly. 2018, without that candidate, independents voted their true likes and dislikes.

The numbers are there. Nov 2016, Jan 2017 and Dec 2018. Not June 2018. Take it any way you like.
 
marke said:
Unsaved Americans stand on shifting sands of selfishness, greed and godlessness. They favor politicians who make them feel good about sin. It is no wonder support for democrats is on the rise and the moral fiber of America as a whole continues to decay.
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incredible that you put the Democrats in the category of evil when Trump has proven repeatedly that he is evil by repeatedly cheating on his wives, uncaring about separating children from their mothers without even keeping records of who they are and where they are, debasing anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with him and making decisions based on what is good for him and not what is necessarily good for the country.

You defending him and attacking Democrats that are simply trying to help those that can't help themselves puts you in the same category as Trump
 
Perotista said:
That's a 14 June article which very well could have been valid back in June. 6 Months Ago. Party affiliation and Identification is very dynamic and changes all the time. Fact is looking at December polls, not June, one finds Trump is as popular among Republicans today as he was on election day and on his inauguration day. Trump is hated by most Democrats as much as they hated him on election day, inauguration day to today.

Look at independents, election day 40% favorable, 57% unfavorable. Question 11

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

Independents right after Trump inauguration, January 2017, 43% favorable, 41% unfavorable. Question 125

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/pyonz5d0lq/econTabReport.pdf

Independents today, 39% favorable, 50% unfavorable. Question 50A

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/6lj541oi1z/econTabReport.pdf

Independents has gone from 40% to 43% down to 39% today. That's not that much of a Change. So ask yourself why in 2016 Hillary received only 42% of the independent vote while in 2018 independents went overwhelming Democratic in congressional races 54-42. The dislike of Trump was always there for independents, it just so happened in 2016, candidates matter, there was a candidate they disliked more than Trump and voted accordingly. 2018, without that candidate, independents voted their true likes and dislikes.

The numbers are there. Nov 2016, Jan 2017 and Dec 2018. Not June 2018. Take it any way you like.
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Thanks for the information but it is evident that Trump's support is beginning to ooze out, especially since he has done nothing since the Tax cut and deregulation that occurred last year. Just look at the stock market that went up because of his election but has now given back almost 50% of what was gained. Traders are no longer as bullish on the market as they were before
 
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