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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    If by 1. Trump is in over his head you mean that Trump is putty in Putin's hands? YUP. Donald would be putty in the hands of any decent Human Intelligence officer let alone one schooled in the best Human Intelligence Agencies in the world.
    look at today's tweets. tRump went on a rampage against the FBI, New York Times, hillary, Obama, dubya, bill clinton, James Comey, Bob Mueller, the Mueller investigation team, and the DNC
    but notice he never has an unkind word for putin; hell, he will not even acknowledge the russian interference in the 2016 presidential election
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    in order to have made the above assertion, you would have to have access to Mueller's findings thus far
    please share a copy with us so that we can read it, too
    Sorry. I was only observing that there is no evidence made public of collusion.

    You may believe that Mueller has something that supports the colluuuuuuuusion thingy that Adam Schiff keeps harping on, but it's pretty much a fantasy.

    A fantasy with no proof in the public realm. Pretty much the same level of evidence justifying ALL of the Never Trumpers' hatred.
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Sorry. I was only observing that there is no evidence made public of collusion.

    You may believe that Mueller has something that supports the colluuuuuuuusion thingy that Adam Schiff keeps harping on, but it's pretty much a fantasy.

    A fantasy with no proof in the public realm. Pretty much the same level of evidence justifying ALL of the Never Trumpers' hatred.
    When we know why Trump has adopted virtually the entire geopolitical perspective of a known adversary that being Russia then we will know about collusion and will likely know about conspiracy as well. Until then, good luck explaining why any US President would adopt virtually all of the geopolitical perspectives of a known adversary (Russia) as Trump has done. That of course is just the tip of the iceberg, just want we can see that is in the public domain.

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    When we know why Trump has adopted virtually the entire geopolitical perspective of a known adversary that being Russia then we will know about collusion and will likely know about conspiracy as well. Until then, good luck explaining why any US President would adopt virtually all of the geopolitical perspectives of a known adversary (Russia) as Trump has done. That of course is just the tip of the iceberg, just want we can see that is in the public domain.
    Care to link to any real world, actual specifics to support your delusion?

    How many countries has Putin invaded/annexed since Obama left office?

    Your paranoia is directed at the wrong president. Obama is the president that promised to be more "flexible" to accommodate his buddy Vladimir.
    Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, ...every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. -George Orwell

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    hahahhah jesus. Oh yes we fell for the scam of getting better trade deals, jobs coming back, a better economy, pulling our soldiers out of war zones, and getting illegal immigration under control. How stupid of Americans to want this and vote for it. We should be more like you and support anti American babble.
    Yes all of those were scams. .You are just realizing that now? Trump is an incompetent charlatan who could not negotiate his way out of a paper bag. He has appointed foxes in every hen house and on top of all that he committed felonies to get elected. So yes you were duped and he thinks of you like a patsy.
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Helping him help America was always the right idea.
    From my viewpoint, I don't see a single thing that has helped America. Aiding and abetting a man that doesn't really care about you or about this country isn't doing anyone a favor. Not him, not you, not us and not a collective nation. Yes, people are working, there's more jobs open than people to fill them. That's great for people that are working and not good for businesses that are struggling because they can't find people to run their businesses. The stock market losses in December completely erased every gain from the past year. Millionaires are richer and 800,000 people are suffering without a paycheck and money to pay the mortgage or pay for their medications. We have disenfranchised our longtime allies and appeased our adversaries. We're fighting each other to put up a wall that will never happen just because you fear a non-existent threat of brown people. It's unfounded and unrealistic, but it keeps you fearful so it works for him in order to manipulate you. We never saw the promised 'repeal and replace' of Obamacare that enabled millions of uninsured Americans to have health care and for some it was the first time in their lives that they did. Trump removed the individual mandate, that's it. There's nothing to replace and Congress sits on their hands trying to come up with an alternative to it, so two years later, we still have the ACA available to people, and thank God for that.

    "helping him help America" is just not realistic any longer. He hasn't helped America, he's made bad trade deals and imposed tariffs that are deeply hurting middle America. Our environment is dirtier, our water is more contaminated and people are living paycheck to paycheck despite having to work TWO jobs just to make ends meet. The country is deeply divided, not united by a strong leader as it should be. All of your attempts at pro-Trump talking points are falling on deaf ears now because Trump has been exposed as a malignant narcissist that has been compromised by a foreign adversary and doesn't give a crap about you, me or anyone in this country or even the country itself.

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    When people meet with Trump the leftists go ape with accusations of some sort of mysterious unknown corruption. When democrats meet with people it is to get more money and further the wicked democrat party and agenda.
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    ...if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. --- The Mueller Report

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Care to link to any real world, actual specifics to support your delusion?

    How many countries has Putin invaded/annexed since Obama left office?

    Your paranoia is directed at the wrong president. Obama is the president that promised to be more "flexible" to accommodate his buddy Vladimir.
    - Leaving Syria to Iran/Russia/Assad
    - adopting the Russian Propaganda that Russia was "justified" in its Afghanistan incursion
    - slow rolling Russian Sanctions voted by Congress
    - Taking the position that RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN OUR ELECTIONS IS A HOAX
    - removing Sanctions from Oleg Deripaska
    - Trump's attempts to coax France out of the EU (Putin has wet dreams over this one)
    - exiting the JCPOA
    - antagonizing the only two countries with which we have land borders (Putin creaming his jeans over this one too)

    etc...etc...etc....etc....etc
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Try to hold yourself together for another 22 1/2 months and you can vote in a replacement. Thats how things work in this country. You vote a guy in for 4 years. If you dont like what he is doing, you can vote him out. If you like what he is doing, you can vote him back.
    Criminals do not get 4 years as President. We boot them out as soon as we can. That's how it works in this country. We also need to make an example out of Trump so no one else ever attempts to lie and cheat his way into office thinking he can pardon himself if he is caught. Trump needs to be the first impeached President that is convicted and sent to prison after he is booted out. 15 years should be enough so that he dies in prison.

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    - Leaving Syria to Iran/Russia/Assad
    - adopting the Russian Propaganda that Russia was "justified" in its Afghanistan incursion
    - slow rolling Russian Sanctions voted by Congress
    - Taking the position that RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN OUR ELECTIONS IS A HOAX
    - removing Sanctions from Oleg Deripaska
    - Trump's attempts to coax France out of the EU (Putin has wet dreams over this one)
    - exiting the JCPOA
    - antagonizing the only two countries with which we have land borders (Putin creaming his jeans over this one too)

    etc...etc...etc....etc....etc
    Yes there are a lot of etc.s Trumps performance in Helsinki where he behaved like Putin's puppy dog sticks in my mind.



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