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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Mueller is investigating more than just Trump. Flynn may have info on the main thrust of Muellers investigation--Russian behavior and tactics in 2016 and possibly even prior to that. You guys always assume that everyone talking to Mueller is talking about Trump and only Trump. Thats not the case.
    I made no assertions about what we discussed only that he met with Trump 19 times and I doubt it was talking about the weather. You on the other hand asserted that he probably has nothing to say to Mueller about Trump which is absurd
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    I made no assertions about what we discussed only that he met with Trump 19 times and I doubt it was talking about the weather. You on the other hand asserted that he probably has nothing to say to Mueller about Trump which is absurd
    I dont think Trump did anything wrong and after 2 1/2 years of multiple investigations into the matter, no evidence has come out to the contrary. What has happened is a massive adherence by the loony left to Russian Collusion Trutherism.

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Mueller is investigating more than just Trump. Flynn may have info on the main thrust of Muellers investigation--Russian behavior and tactics in 2016 and possibly even prior to that. You guys always assume that everyone talking to Mueller is talking about Trump and only Trump. Thats not the case.
    I never said what you're asserting
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    No entrapment, no extortion, it's all right wing hysteria nonsense, and the kidnapping effort didn't have any FBI involvement.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nt-cleric-plot


    You're the one making stuff up.
    From your link, here it the first bullet point:

    "Flynn reportedly involved in alleged plan to abduct cleric Fethullah Gülen"

    For you convenience, I have highlighted the words in the first bullet point that say. "Everything here is utter BS and may or may be related in some tangent way to actual events".

    I didn't bother to read beyond that first bullet point. Reported means they talked to each other in the press room. IF ONE REPORTER SAYS A LIE, THAT MEANS IT GOT REPORTED.

    Alleged is about the same thing. No proof. Some jack ass said it with no proof.

    Did Flynn plead guilty to reported involvement in this alleged plan to kidnapping?

    The article you have linked to is a hit piece from a sensationalist.
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Like I said Manafort owed Russians millions WHILE he was Trump's campaign manager in 2016. Your assertion that that has nothing to do with Trump's "Russian collusion" is ludicrous. Why do you think Trump choose Manafort for that most important job? Could it have been at the behest of Putin? That is really the only thing that makes any sense. Even the most perfunctory vetting would have shown how dirty Manafort was and what a liability to the campaign he would be.

    Did Manafort Use Trump?s Campaign to Pay Back Russia?
    How far removed from reality does a person need to be to not see the real world.

    Trump was headed into what he assumed might be a brokered convention run by snakes.

    He hired a political snake with experience in political snake activities to help with the venomous liars, cheats and swindlers he knew would be found at the convention.

    Based on this link, are you also going to recommend the posthumous indictment of Gerald Ford?

    Paul Manafort: Timeline of Donald Trump Campaign Work | Fortune
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    The Trump campaign announced it had brought on Manafort, a veteran political strategist, to help the real estate mogul prevent delegates from bolting and choosing another nominee at the Republican National Convention in July.

    Although Trump led the Republican field in both votes and delegates, he was still unpopular among many Republicans, and it was unclear if he would end up with the necessary delegates to prevent a floor fight at the convention.

    Manafort was picked in part because he was instrumental in Gerald Ford’s successful floor fight in at the 1976 convention.
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL The evidence that Mueller has does not require a trial to reveal. That is a false premise. I already informed you that 90% of Fed indictments end in pleas. They don't indict without very good evidence.

    It is Trump that is compromising the rule of law by appointing a stooge who is under FBI investigation as acting AG.
    Mueller has got nothing that supports anything in the area of collusion that he was hired to pin on Trump.

    All of this other BS is just political wrangling and job justification. A used up war horse on the last gallop before the glue factory.

    I would have thought that the government destroying lives in the US would ALWAYS require "very good evidence". I suppose, as long as the guy being attacked is Trump, no actual evidence is required.

    Rumor and lies is enough.
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Americans are often subject to falling for scams and pyramid schemes.

    The Trump experiment has to be the biggest scam ever played on the American voter. He has been exposed and still suckers are falling for his act.

    Just amazing.
    hahahhah jesus. Oh yes we fell for the scam of getting better trade deals, jobs coming back, a better economy, pulling our soldiers out of war zones, and getting illegal immigration under control. How stupid of Americans to want this and vote for it. We should be more like you and support anti American babble.

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarLevant View Post
    I made no assertions about what we discussed only that he met with Trump 19 times and I doubt it was talking about the weather. You on the other hand asserted that he probably has nothing to say to Mueller about Trump which is absurd
    When people meet with Trump the leftists go ape with accusations of some sort of mysterious unknown corruption. When democrats meet with people it is to get more money and further the wicked democrat party and agenda.

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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Mueller has got nothing that supports anything in the area of collusion that he was hired to pin on Trump.

    All of this other BS is just political wrangling and job justification. A used up war horse on the last gallop before the glue factory.

    I would have thought that the government destroying lives in the US would ALWAYS require "very good evidence". I suppose, as long as the guy being attacked is Trump, no actual evidence is required.

    Rumor and lies is enough.
    in order to have made the above assertion, you would have to have access to Mueller's findings thus far
    please share a copy with us so that we can read it, too
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    Re: 1. Trump is in over his head

    If by 1. Trump is in over his head you mean that Trump is putty in Putin's hands? YUP. Donald would be putty in the hands of any decent Human Intelligence officer let alone one schooled in the best Human Intelligence Agencies in the world.

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