GOPers, if Trump broke the law, does that upset you at all?

cabse5 said:

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts the dems (and Never-Trumpers) would all have a merry Christmas.

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They already are. It is called the Blue Tsunami. and it is the gift that will keep giving for years to come....

Logician Man said:

They already are. It is called the Blue Tsunami. and it is the gift that will keep giving for years to come....

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Blue tsunami. Meh. The was much more of a red 'tsunami' in the off presidential election years of BO. And BO didn't have the press and the Mueller investigation meddling in the election against Trump associates (GOPs), either.

cabse5 said:

Blue tsunami. Meh. The was much more of a red tsunami in the off presidential election years of BO. And BO didn't have the press and the Mueller investigation meddling in the election against Trump associates (GOPs), either.

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Funny how you Trump cultists always play the BHO card when you know damn good and well your mafia kingpin has his teat in a royal wringer. Orange Fatty is going DOWN!!! :sinking::sinking::sinking: ...:lamo

Logician Man said:

Funny how you Trump cultists always play the BHO card when you know damn good and well your mafia kingpin has his teat in a royal wringer. ...:lamo

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If ifs and buts were candies and nuts the dems (and Never-Trumpers) would all have a merry Christmas.

Amelia said:

Having the head of a media company buy people's stories so that he can make sure they never see the light of day so that your attempt to con people into voting for you is not impeded ... that puts things in a different light.

But Trump supporters wouldn't care anyway. They would yell for the impeachment of Obama (like they were doing all along with much much less). But this is Trump. And the GOP has sold its soul.

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Fact is both major parties have sold their hearts and souls to corporations, wall street firms, lobbyists, special interests, mega money donors etc. That where both get their tens of millions of dollars from to run their campaigns and operations.

As for the election of 2016, you have to put that into its proper context, that of 2016 and not as of today. You had both major parties nominate candidate disliked and not wanted to become the next president by approximately 60% of all Americans. 2016 was an election where the voters didn't vote for someone they they wanted to become the next president, unless you were a Clinton or Trump supporter. They voted for the candidate they least wanted to lose. The lesser of two evils, the least worst candidates, the candidate they thought would do the less harm, the candidate they disliked the least. Not the one they wanted to win.

You can see this in their favorable/unfavorable ratings on election day. Trump 36% favorable/60% unfavorable, Clinton 38% favorable/58% unfavorable. Those two candidates set the record for the lowest favorable ratings of any major party candidates going back to FDR. The list lowest to the highest.
2016 Trump 36%
2016 Clinton 38%
1964 Goldwater 43%
1992 G.H.W. Bush 46%

I'll stop there as every other major party candidate from FDR to today has had a higher favorable rating of above 50%. Talk about the two least wanted and liked candidates. We had them in 2016. The two least liked and wanted candidates in our history just happened to be matched against each other. I'm certain any other Democratic candidate would have trounced Trump by 15 points or more, any other Republican would have done the same to Hillary.

Fact is only Republicans wanted Trump, only Democrats wanted Hillary. Independents wanted neither, 54% of all independents disliked and didn't want neither one.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/pol...mericans-dislike-presidential-candidates.aspx

We had two bum candidates in 2016, two unwanted candidates and two very disliked candidates by America as a whole. That is the proper context of 2016.

akyron said:

That actually might make some sense if he had not been doing the same thing for twenty years and more before that.
His life has been public for decades. I am surprised you were shocked.

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Judging by his campaign strategy, Trump has pegged his base as cowardly racists.

Trump’s Midterm Closing Argument: Pure Racial Fear


And as Trump has positioned himself as the only one who can save the base from the brown skinned hoards, I can't imagine the base thinking Trump committing a felony or two is a big problem. So I for one am not shocked by their response.

cabse5 said:

Bill's impeachment proved any president can be impeached for anything. Getting removed is entirely different. High crimes and high misdemeanors must be employed to be removed. Or do you just want to harass Trump for the entirety of his term(s) as president?

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There is ample evidence that Trump has committed an arkload of felonies.

Or do you just want to deny reality forever?

independentusa said:

It seems even Fox News talking heads are beginning to say that Trump committed a felony by his payoffs to his women right before the election. Now I remember that you wanted Clinton impeached for lying to a grand Jury about a sexual matter a few years ago, even though he was doing a great job as president by Trump standards, i.e., a very good economy. So should they at least impeach Trump or does his committing a felony not bother you as it seems not to bother some GOP legislators in Washington?

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they are full on in love with him, so felonies are fine as long as he committed them.

cabse5 said:

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts the dems (and Never-Trumpers) would all have a merry Christmas.

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I'll take that redundant post as a concession you have lost the argument and accept your defeat.

independentusa said:

It seems even Fox News talking heads are beginning to say that Trump committed a felony by his payoffs to his women right before the election. Now I remember that you wanted Clinton impeached for lying to a grand Jury about a sexual matter a few years ago, even though he was doing a great job as president by Trump standards, i.e., a very good economy. So should they at least impeach Trump or does his committing a felony not bother you as it seems not to bother some GOP legislators in Washington?

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Paying for NDA’s is not illegal, unless he took money from the campaign fund to do so.

He didn’t.

This was discussed months ago, and the former head of the Fed Elections Commission is on the record stating so. The guy who wrote the law.

Democrats though, remain ignorant because their media fails to report simple facts.

Must be tough being ignoramuses.

Helix said:

they are full on in love with him, so felonies are fine as long as he committed them.

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What felony?

Ignorance abounds.

See my post above.

zimmer said:

What felony?

Ignorance abounds.

See my post above.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...en-filling-means-trump-committed-two-felonies

now, dance and dodge. it doesn't matter, as i will not be reading your response. have a good one.

Helix said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...en-filling-means-trump-committed-two-felonies

now, dance and dodge. it doesn't matter, as i will not be reading your response. have a good one.

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Of course Helix will not read my response. He enjoys being ignorant... and admits so in the post above.

NDA’s are not illegal, unless they come from the campaign account. They didn’t.

From August, when the Leftists had round one of this failure. Must be tough wading in absolute ignorance.

zimmer said:

Hate to break it to you Leftists, and destroy your Circle-Fest... but paying someone to shut their mouth from your personal funds is legal. He wrote the law, so he should know.

Non-Disclosure Agreements happen all the time.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/0...the-law-by-referring-to-the-actual-law-666425

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29365/former-fec-chairman-mark-levin-stormy-daniels-jacob-airey

Once again, the FAKE NEWS cabal has conspired to misinform it’s followers.

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PS. I’d known about this months ago from the FEC Chairman... as I’d heard long before it became “news” that Mueller cannot indict Trump.

What this has done though, is serve as a reminder to vote this coming November... don’t forget to vote on the first Wednesday in November my Leftist friends!

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https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...hy-trump-did-not-break-law.html?highlight=NDA

zimmer said:

Paying for NDA’s is not illegal, unless he took money from the campaign fund to do so.

He didn’t.

This was discussed months ago, and the former head of the Fed Elections Commission is on the record stating so. The guy who wrote the law.

Democrats though, remain ignorant because their media fails to report simple facts.

Must be tough being ignoramuses.

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LOLOL! That's exactly it: they were campaign funds, as a federal judge agreed.

The fun bit?

You lose again. America wins again.

Pity you cannot emotionally accept facts like that.

Tanngrisnir said:

LOLOL! That's exactly it: they were campaign funds, as a federal judge agreed.

The fun bit?

You lose again. America wins again.

Pity you cannot emotionally accept facts like that.

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Link.

Facts do not have emotions. Facts are facts.

The former Chair of the FEC, the one who crafted the law is on record stating this is all about nothing.

Fact: Funds did not come from his camping account.

End of story. Except for the retards who cannot understand simple facts, and let their emotions get in the way of clear, accurate thinking.

independentusa said:

It seems even Fox News talking heads are beginning to say that Trump committed a felony by his payoffs to his women right before the election. Now I remember that you wanted Clinton impeached for lying to a grand Jury about a sexual matter a few years ago, even though he was doing a great job as president by Trump standards, i.e., a very good economy. So should they at least impeach Trump or does his committing a felony not bother you as it seems not to bother some GOP legislators in Washington?

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I dont care a lick that Trump handed out money to his women, in fact if I did care I would more likely give him bonus points for generosity then agree with charging him with a crime.

zimmer said:

Link.

Facts do not have emotions. Facts are facts.

The former Chair of the FEC, the one who crafted the law is on record stating this is all about nothing.

Fact: Funds did not come from his camping account.

End of story. Except for the retards who cannot understand simple facts, and let their emotions get in the way of clear, accurate thinking.

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LOL! You mean you haven't read ANY of the court proceedings from the Cohen sentencing? Figures, with thos big words and all.

A federal judge agreed it was a criminal felony. Federal prosecutors agree. Michael Cohen agreed. Cohen's very good lawyers agreed.

It's irrelevant what the former FEC chairmans says.

Looks like you lose, breaking down in tears of impotent rage, yet again.

Yay! America wins!

Man, with the blue wave that you were forced to admit happened, 2019 is going to absoutely SUCK for you.

And that's fun!

Tanngrisnir said:

LOL! You mean you haven't read ANY of the court proceedings from the Cohen sentencing? Figures, with thos big words and all.

A federal judge agreed it was a criminal felony. Federal prosecutors agree. Michael Cohen agreed. Cohen's very good lawyers agreed.

It's irrelevant what the former FEC chairmans says.

Looks like you lose, breaking down in tears of impotent rage, yet again.

Yay! America wins!

Man, with the blue wave that you were forced to admit happened, 2019 is going to absoutely SUCK for you.

And that's fun!

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You made a claim, I asked for the link, and you dodged... because you cannot provide said link.

Thanks for posting my sock puppet friend.

Hawkeye10 said:

I dont care a lick that Trump handed out money to his women, in fact if I did care I would more likely give him bonus points for generosity then agree with charging him with a crime.

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You like many Trump cultists will never believe Trump ever committed a crime. He actually committed two crimes. Illegal campaign contributions and conspiracy to hide the illegal contributions. Both are felonies, but you just don't care. If Obama had done such a think you would be lynching him in a minute.

Hawkeye10 said:

I dont care a lick that Trump handed out money to his women, in fact if I did care I would more likely give him bonus points for generosity then agree with charging him with a crime.

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The problem with the rights arguement....Trump supposedly self financed his campaign....so anything paid for the furtherance of that campaign from him is a campaign contribution. If he paid these women 10 years ago no biggie...he paid them weeks before the election then lied about it, didn't report it and when caught says no big deal it was private transaction.
All he had to do when it all came out was say yes I did it fix the paperwork and move on. Instead he continued to lie, continued to hide it. Cover up always worse than the crime.