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Abortion Clinic Kicks Woman Out at Closing Time While She’s Hemorrhaging From Her Abortion

Grokmaster said:
Reduced to AD HOM attacks ALREADY we see.

Meanwhile:

911 call...leading to AMBULANCE. Hospital admission.

No MD on site, much less performing operation.


Left outside to bleed.
"STUPID" scarcely covers it.
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Stupid does not cover it

The word FICTION does
 
Grokmaster said:
Lifenews is a very reputable pro-life site...as evidenced by the VERIFIABLE FACTS THEY PROVIDE:

So, on the record, you are then claiming that Cleveland's METRO HEALTH HOSPITAL FALSIFIED THEIR ADMISSION REPORT?


Silliass Alinsky BULL****.
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Alinsky is now passed.

Nowadays attacking the source is "fake news".

Haven't you seen your leader doing this constantly, follower?
 
Grokmaster said:
And got Cleveland's Metro Health Hospital to FALSIFY THEIR RECORDS, too...amazing.
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according to what? The bull**** source? LOL The idiocy of right wingers knows no bounds
 
Grokmaster said:
So the Clevelnad Metro Health Hospital was in on the lie , then??

And the 911 call, that led to the AMBULANCE to the HOSPITAL... all lies?


The left is absolutely INSANE when it comes to defending its Most Sacred Act...Abortion.


Notice...ZERO CONCERN FOR THE WOMAN..all comments express concern for ABORTION...


As I said.."women's health"..BULL****.
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No, none of that is true, the article made all that up. Just like "a staffer at lifenews obtained the 9/11 calls" LOL. man, really lame attempt at trolling
 
Grokmaster said:
What planet are you from?

An MD in the US is REQUIRED TO ADMINISTER EMERGENCY AID, or see that it is done.

Makeup some more ridiculous BULL**** in defense of your High Sacrament, Abortion.
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here, why don't you troll yourself. For crying out loud, at least put some effort into your trolling to not make it so unoriginal and obvious

Grokmaster said:
Reduced to AD HOM attacks ALREADY we see.

Meanwhile:

911 call...leading to AMBULANCE. Hospital admission.

No MD on site, much less performing operation.


Left outside to bleed.
"STUPID" scarcely covers it.
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Grokmaster said:
Yeah, the 911 call, ambulance, and hospital admission are all falsified.

Der....ummm...duh...
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Your source is garbage and you have been called out to provide some concrete proof.

Do it.
 
beefheart said:
Your source is garbage and you have been called out to provide some concrete proof.

Do it.
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Why does your signature translate to: 'I've seen horses puke in front of the pharmacy' ?
 
beefheart said:
Your source is garbage and you have been called out to provide some concrete proof.

Do it.
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Trolls won't ever do it. They follow the same posting strategy

1. post some biased garbage link with little to no comment other than some dumb partisan snipe
2. deflect or just repeat teh same bogus thing.

You don't get more than a single line response, and the deflection falls into the usual categories, such as
1. way to attack the source (again, offering no rebutall)
2. make a personal attack on the poster, claiming they are stupid while offering no actual rebutall
3. cry about being attacked and claim victory

Just like all those examples are done in this very thread.

Trolls don't post anything of substance, they just lay turds all over the forum
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Trolls won't ever do it. They follow the same posting strategy

1. post some biased garbage link with little to no comment other than some dumb partisan snipe
2. deflect or just repeat teh same bogus thing.

You don't get more than a single line response, and the deflection falls into the usual categories, such as
1. way to attack the source (again, offering no rebutall)
2. make a personal attack on the poster, claiming they are stupid while offering no actual rebutall
3. cry about being attacked and claim victory

Just like all those examples are done in this very thread.

Trolls don't post anything of substance, they just lay turds all over the forum
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So that's where liberals come from! I can see the resemblance
 
Grokmaster said:
"WOMEN' HEALTH"..my ass.

Meanwhile the Abortion as High Sacrament crowd continually OPPOSE COMMON SENSE LEGISLATION, that would require and MD with admitting privileges on the premises, and/or than only MDs perform this dangerous crap.




Abortion Clinic Kicks Woman Out at Closing Time While She’s Hemorrhaging From Her Abortion


A woman who received an abortion at the Preterm abortion facility in Cleveland, Ohio, was forced to call 911 for an ambulance for herself after she was put out of the facility at the end of the business day while still hemorrhaging from her abortion.







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The incident occurred on November 9, 2018, at approximately 5:50 p.m. The 911 recording obtained by local pro-life activist Fred Sokol, who also photographed the incident, revealed that the 25-year old patient had an abortion at 2:00 in the afternoon and was released despite her heavy bleeding because the clinic was closing and the workers just wanted to leave for the day.

“I’m outside Preterm and I’m bleeding heavy,” the caller explained to the 911 dispatcher. “Like they just — they just left me bleeding like this.”

The dispatcher later asked her, “Is the bleeding heavy?”

“Yes,” the caller replied. “I’m bleeding through my clothes.”



https://www.lifenews.com/2018/12/10...Q8cwbMciKJFMwGE1Xb39-JnF0HP-A6lXmA_yOmp0PCi4M

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Let us know when you have a reputable source. Didn't even read it once i saw where the link was from a totally exposed hack site.
MAYBE the story is true
MAYBE there was wrong doing that needs addressed

but ill need an honest link to such a story before i can give my take. Theres nobody educated honest and objective that lists lifenews as a honest reputable source.

DOes anybody have one?
 
Cardinal said:
Lifenews.
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I don't understand the killing-of-the messenger. Does the source being Lifesite/whatever somehow invalidate facts? Asking because I went Googling and found that this particular Cleveland clinic has a terrible reputation--one death in 2014, another woman hemorrhaging, and other problems. I also found a YouTube of the OP's patient 911 call and PDFs of the EMS reports. But why bother to post links if there is going to be an out-of-hand dismissal of the sources?
 
homersapien said:
So that's where liberals come from! I can see the resemblance
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LOL, you probably think you are being clever, which is really said. Must be a kid with such immature nonsense
 
nota bene said:
I don't understand the killing-of-the messenger. Does the source being Lifesite/whatever somehow invalidate facts? Asking because I went Googling and found that this particular Cleveland clinic has a terrible reputation--one death in 2014, another woman hemorrhaging, and other problems. I also found a YouTube of the OP's patient 911 call and PDFs of the EMS reports. But why bother to post links if there is going to be an out-of-hand dismissal of the sources?
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That's the standard DP Left procedure. When faced with embarrassing facts that they cannot refute, they immediately try to deflect, change the subject...anything...attacking the source is a favorite, albeit ANCIENT silly tactic they deploy daily here.

Notice NOT ONE has addressed the question as to why they OPPOSED MEDICAL DOCTIRS being required to at least be PRESENT at abortion mills, when , in fact, MDs should be the ONLY PEOPLE PERFORMING LEGAL ABORTIONS, as well.


"Planned Parenthood" is hardly a proponent of "Women's Health"; that's the LAST THING THEY ARE UP TO. Let me know when they start actually DOING MAMOGRAMS....
 
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Why do they need to have any "DOCTIRS" See post 17.

Hysteric posts and screaming by you aren't answering any of the questions put forth on this thread.
 
nota bene said:
I don't understand the killing-of-the messenger. Does the source being Lifesite/whatever somehow invalidate facts? Asking because I went Googling and found that this particular Cleveland clinic has a terrible reputation--one death in 2014, another woman hemorrhaging, and other problems. I also found a YouTube of the OP's patient 911 call and PDFs of the EMS reports. But why bother to post links if there is going to be an out-of-hand dismissal of the sources?
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who made any of those claims?

people asked for proof of legitimacy and actual proof of facts instead of a known hack site . . . thats what reasonable people do LMAO
nobody is dismissing LEGIT sources out of hand, but the fact is life news just isnt one of them

if you found legit sources, great! . . post them!
Im sure people will gladly read them, I know i will and then real discussion can be had
I know i have NEVER had any problem posting a LEGIT link when asked nor has any other respected poster. its a very easy solution, post legit links if you want to be taken seriously :shrug: . .

I still didnt even read the link because i dont go to that hack sight . . if what you say is TRUE it appalling and needs addressed but until i see evidence of such theres no logic reason to take the OP seriously. Its like posting a sole source of bad info about trump from a sight called trumpsucksandisaracist.com i wouldnt read that and take it seriously without other sources either.

If this is true im sure theres more sources and legit ones.
 
Grokmaster said:
"WOMEN' HEALTH"..my ass.

Meanwhile the Abortion as High Sacrament crowd continually OPPOSE COMMON SENSE LEGISLATION, that would require and MD with admitting privileges on the premises, and/or than only MDs perform this dangerous crap.




Abortion Clinic Kicks Woman Out at Closing Time While She’s Hemorrhaging From Her Abortion


A woman who received an abortion at the Preterm abortion facility in Cleveland, Ohio, was forced to call 911 for an ambulance for herself after she was put out of the facility at the end of the business day while still hemorrhaging from her abortion.







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The incident occurred on November 9, 2018, at approximately 5:50 p.m. The 911 recording obtained by local pro-life activist Fred Sokol, who also photographed the incident, revealed that the 25-year old patient had an abortion at 2:00 in the afternoon and was released despite her heavy bleeding because the clinic was closing and the workers just wanted to leave for the day.

“I’m outside Preterm and I’m bleeding heavy,” the caller explained to the 911 dispatcher. “Like they just — they just left me bleeding like this.”

The dispatcher later asked her, “Is the bleeding heavy?”

“Yes,” the caller replied. “I’m bleeding through my clothes.”



https://www.lifenews.com/2018/12/10...Q8cwbMciKJFMwGE1Xb39-JnF0HP-A6lXmA_yOmp0PCi4M

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Funny this news only shows up on Anti woman choice websites....So that mean definitely fake News which means Russian bots heavily at work, probably something to do with Planned parenthood winning their court case.
what's next???Planned Parenthood will perform abortion and sell the babies to Space Align as power storage Device ....See the link!

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AGENT J said:
who made any of those claims?

people asked for proof of legitimacy and actual proof of facts instead of a known hack site . . . thats what reasonable people do LMAO
nobody is dismissing LEGIT sources out of hand, but the fact is life news just isnt one of them

if you found legit sources, great! . . post them!
Im sure people will gladly read them, I know i will and then real discussion can be had
I know i have NEVER had any problem posting a LEGIT link when asked nor has any other respected poster. its a very easy solution, post legit links if you want to be taken seriously :shrug: . .

I still didnt even read the link because i dont go to that hack sight . . if what you say is TRUE it appalling and needs addressed but until i see evidence of such theres no logic reason to take the OP seriously. Its like posting a sole source of bad info about trump from a sight called trumpsucksandisaracist.com i wouldnt read that and take it seriously without other sources either.

If this is true im sure theres more sources and legit ones.
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You missed my point. If pro-life sources are by your definition illegitimate and could not possibly be offering facts, why bother? But IF you were genuinely interested, you could check Cleveland.com to read about, for example, the death of Lakisha Wilson.
 
nota bene said:
You missed my point. If pro-life sources are by your definition illegitimate and could not possibly be offering facts, why bother? But IF you were genuinely interested, you could check Cleveland.com to read about, for example, the death of Lakisha Wilson.
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nope you just proved i nailed it PERFECTLY

you totally made something up that wasnt said by me, who said pro-life sources are illegitimate simply cause they are prolife??? . .

I said along with one other person lifenews is illegitimate and it in fact is :shrug:

If want wants a honest conversation or a post to be taken seriously then one should post a reputable link and not one from a known hack site or simply say something along the lines of "I know this is a hack site but if true this is disgraceful" . . its a very simply solution . . otherwise mocking the link is justified and expected . .
 
nota bene said:
I don't understand the killing-of-the messenger. Does the source being Lifesite/whatever somehow invalidate facts? Asking because I went Googling and found that this particular Cleveland clinic has a terrible reputation--one death in 2014, another woman hemorrhaging, and other problems. I also found a YouTube of the OP's patient 911 call and PDFs of the EMS reports. But why bother to post links if there is going to be an out-of-hand dismissal of the sources?
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And if there is a respectable source for what happens at that clinic then it should be used. If I posted an article critical of trump from ihatetrump.com, I wouldn't expect anybody to click on the link.
 
nota bene said:
I don't understand the killing-of-the messenger. Does the source being Lifesite/whatever somehow invalidate facts? Asking because I went Googling and found that this particular Cleveland clinic has a terrible reputation--one death in 2014, another woman hemorrhaging, and other problems. I also found a YouTube of the OP's patient 911 call and PDFs of the EMS reports. But why bother to post links if there is going to be an out-of-hand dismissal of the sources?
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Because their "reporting" is frequently based on biased or false information....or hoaxes

For example

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https://www.lifenews.com/2014/06/30...c-award-for-killing-more-babies-in-abortions/
 
nota bene said:
You missed my point. If pro-life sources are by your definition illegitimate and could not possibly be offering facts, why bother? But IF you were genuinely interested, you could check Cleveland.com to read about, for example, the death of Lakisha Wilson.
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I googled her. Here is what I found
Meanwhile, Preterm Abortion Clinic, the facility where 22-year-old Lakisha Wilson ended her pregnancy, said the cause of death announcement indicated no medical error.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/05/reaction_to_ruling_that_pregna.html
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nota bene said:
I don't understand the killing-of-the messenger. Does the source being Lifesite/whatever somehow invalidate facts? Asking because I went Googling and found that this particular Cleveland clinic has a terrible reputation--one death in 2014, another woman hemorrhaging, and other problems. I also found a YouTube of the OP's patient 911 call and PDFs of the EMS reports. But why bother to post links if there is going to be an out-of-hand dismissal of the sources?
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I find it odd that you sound unfamiliar with the website when you have used it as a source several times before.
 
sangha said:
I googled her. Here is what I found
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This case is 4 years old. I would think if there was evidence of malpractice or "botched" procedure, there would be a civil and criminal case to have actual court records.

One thing is certain....pregnancy has complications. That is a matter of fact. Abortion caries risks. Not nearly as many risks as carrying to term, but still it carries risks. The longer a woman waits to have an abortion, the greater the risk. It is stated she had a "late term" abortion.

Back to Life News. They call the procedure "botched" what is their evidence? Does the autopsy show their was a "botched abortion"? Are their any court documents that show anyone was charged with malpractice? Is there a civil suit? Criminal charges? This case is from 2014 for goodness sake.


This is my consistent problem with Life News. They state things as fact when they truly do not know.


And frankly, just like pregnancy, abortion caries risks. When an abortion is performed the woman signs a consent for a reason. The procedure DOES carry risks. So what needs to be figured out is whether a woman suffered an unfortunate complication of an abortion.....or whether the clinic or doctor are at fault.


But if the doctor is botching abortions - malpractice...charge the MD! Please. If the clinic is operation in a substandard way....inspect them and/or charge them!
 
year2late said:
This case is 4 years old. I would think if there was evidence of malpractice or "botched" procedure, there would be a civil and criminal case to have actual court records.

One thing is certain....pregnancy has complications. That is a matter of fact. Abortion caries risks. Not nearly as many risks as carrying to term, but still it carries risks. The longer a woman waits to have an abortion, the greater the risk. It is stated she had a "late term" abortion.

Back to Life News. They call the procedure "botched" what is their evidence? Does the autopsy show their was a "botched abortion"? Are their any court documents that show anyone was charged with malpractice? Is there a civil suit? Criminal charges? This case is from 2014 for goodness sake.


This is my consistent problem with Life News. They state things as fact when they truly do not know.


And frankly, just like pregnancy, abortion caries risks. When an abortion is performed the woman signs a consent for a reason. The procedure DOES carry risks. So what needs to be figured out is whether a woman suffered an unfortunate complication of an abortion.....or whether the clinic or doctor are at fault.


But if the doctor is botching abortions - malpractice...charge the MD! Please. If the clinic is operation in a substandard way....inspect them and/or charge them!
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It's over. Once pressed enough, he refused to address this and it pretty much wraps up the thread:

Lursa said:
<the OP article is> It's a total joke.

Abortion is 14 times safer than pregnancy/childbirth, yet no one is screaming that women should not be allowed to have home births or give up mid-wives and demand they have Drs present at every birth.

It's pure hypocrisy.

For reference:
Researchers found that women were about 14 times more likely to die during or after giving birth to a live baby than to die from complications of an abortion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...than-giving-birth-study-idUSTRE80M2BS20120123
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I even connected the dots for him, but *crickets.*

"Here, I'll spell it out for you: If it's not required to have Drs present for births, which are so much more dangerous, then why should there be laws forcing Drs to be present at abortions?"​
 
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