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Watergate's John Dean on Cohen filing: Congress will have to 'start impeachment proceedings'

Logician Man said:
thanks for the deflection that was expected. very predictable
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you really aren't in any position to tell another poster to shut up or anything close to that. The fact is, you all will lionize anyone who bashes the Trump administration-even scum like John Dean
 
TurtleDude said:
you really aren't in any position to tell another poster to shut up or anything close to that. The fact is, you all will lionize anyone who bashes the Trump administration-even scum like John Dean
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Thanks for that deflection also...very predictable..seems you're even more desperate than usual to run that post count up tonight ..:lol:
 
JacksinPA said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...n-on-cohen-filing-congress-will-have-to-start

John Dean, a key figure in the Watergate scandal, says allegations made against President Trump in a bombshell court filing released Friday are evidence enough for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings.

Dean's comments were made in an appearance on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" shortly after the memo in a case involving Trump's former longtime attorney Michael Cohen was released by federal prosecutors in New York.
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Dean, famous for his bombshell Congressional testimony during the Watergate hearings, is a lawyer by training & is perhaps the person most familiar with the impeachment process.
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I would wait for the Mueller report. There will be more than enough there to impeach.

You can't impeach him regarding payments to porn star. People will say he's being impeached for sex like Clinton. Even though Clinton was impeached for perjury people still equated it to an impeachment for sex. They will do the same here.
 
Logician Man said:
Thanks for that deflection also...very predictable..seems you're even more desperate than usual to run that post count up tonight ..:lol:
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you're trolling now. most of your posts tonight are based on what I have posted
 
TurtleDude said:
you dems
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I'm not a Dem, you should probably direct this post to someone else.

keep calling Trump a criminal
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Because he is.

well pretending that the clintons are as clean as fresh snow. Guess what? Clinton was impeached. He gave up his law license and paid a fine.
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Uh, no one was talking about the Clintons. Certainly I wasn't. And you haven't seen me support Clinton either.

Is this the best you have? Half-assed deflection because the truth is your position is completely unpatriotic and a little loco?

Remind me when Trump was convicted of any criminal activity?
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Nicole Brown Simpson has a serious issue with your logic here...

We get the fact that Trump winning really caused serious decompensation among many who figured Hillary had the election wrapped up.
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I didn't support Hillary and didn't vote for her. I thought she would win, but only because I didn't expect enough people to stupidly vote for Trump. I was wrong about that, obviously, but just because you voted for Trump before doesn't mean you should defend him now.

The man is a criminal. The man betrayed this country. You supporting him staying in the position of President when he CLEARLY has been compromised by foreign government (which, just to be clear, all the lies we now know he has told about his and his team's interactions with Russia EASILY compromised him as President, since obviously the Russian government knew he was lying) just to troll your political opposites is beyond absurd.

None of you can actually explain how Trump winning OBJECTIVELY harmed you
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He actively participated in a direct attack on our country by a hostile foreign government and has done everything in his power to cover it up.

Seriously, do you not watch the news?
 
Slyfox696 said:
I'm not a Dem, you should probably direct this post to someone else.

Because he is.

Uh, no one was talking about the Clintons. Certainly I wasn't. And you haven't seen me support Clinton either.

Is this the best you have? Half-assed deflection because the truth is your position is completely unpatriotic and a little loco?

Nicole Brown Simpson has a serious issue with your logic here...

I didn't support Hillary and didn't vote for her. I thought she would win, but only because I didn't expect enough people to stupidly vote for Trump. I was wrong about that, obviously, but just because you voted for Trump before doesn't mean you should defend him now.

The man is a criminal. The man betrayed this country. You supporting him staying in the position of President when he CLEARLY has been compromised by foreign government (which, just to be clear, all the lies we now know he has told about his and his team's interactions with Russia EASILY compromised him as President, since obviously the Russian government knew he was lying) just to troll your political opposites is beyond absurd.

He actively participated in a direct attack on our country by a hostile foreign government and has done everything in his power to cover it up.

Seriously, do you not watch the news?
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Where is the convictions? Oh I forgot. Due process and the rule of law is something the Trump or Kavanaugh haters don't believe in-except when it comes to politicians they like.
 
TurtleDude said:
Where is the convictions? Oh I forgot. Due process and the rule of law is something the Trump or Kavanaugh haters don't believe in-except when it comes to politicians they like.
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Have you noticed YOU are the only here who is posting ANYTHING about Kavanaugh?
 
TurtleDude said:
Where is the convictions?
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I take it this is your white flag. Fair enough.

The fact is a crime committed is a crime committed, even if there are no convictions. You can play dumb all you want and pretend you don't know DOJ guidelines state a sitting President shouldn't be indicted, but we both know you know your words here are not honest.

The fact is Trump committed crimes and betrayed our country and you supporting this man just because you want to troll your political opposites suggests your loyalty does not lie with America.

Oh I forgot. Due process and the rule of law is something the Trump or Kavanaugh haters don't believe in-except when it comes to politicians they like.
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Well, I tell you what then. Let's have Trump resign the Presidency right now and have him get charged with crimes. Let's just see how that plays out, shall we? :roll:

Trump supporters can't argue facts, so they resort to deflections and dishonesty. It is indisputable at this point there were ACTIVE communications between the Trump campaign and Russia. It is indisputable at this point (since Cohen pleaded guilty) that the Trump campaign violated federal election law (at Trump's behest, according to the guilty plea of Cohen) and that Trump not only knew about it, but also reimbursed Cohen.

You can play dumb all you want, but we both know it is not honest. Trump committed crimes, he had active communications with a country he KNEW was attacking our country (see: Russian hack of DNC) and he not only continued working with Russia, but worked to cover up their involvement the best he could. He committed crimes and he betrayed this country. These are indisputable facts. But you don't care because "dems".

Like I said, like it's not unpatriotic or crazy.
Logician Man said:
Have you noticed YOU are the only here who is posting ANYTHING about Kavanaugh?
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Trump supporters have no facts to support them so they have to resort to red herrings. Also, it's a favored tactic of some on these forums.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I take it this is your white flag. Fair enough.

The fact is a crime committed is a crime committed, even if there are no convictions. You can play dumb all you want and pretend you don't know DOJ guidelines state a sitting President shouldn't be indicted, but we both know you know your words here are not honest.

The fact is Trump committed crimes and betrayed our country and you supporting this man just because you want to troll your political opposites suggests your loyalty does not lie with America.

Well, I tell you what then. Let's have Trump resign the Presidency right now and have him get charged with crimes. Let's just see how that plays out, shall we? :roll:

Trump supporters can't argue facts, so they resort to deflections and dishonesty. It is indisputable at this point there were ACTIVE communications between the Trump campaign and Russia. It is indisputable at this point (since Cohen pleaded guilty) that the Trump campaign violated federal election law (at Trump's behest, according to the guilty plea of Cohen) and that Trump not only knew about it, but also reimbursed Cohen.

You can play dumb all you want, but we both know it is not honest. Trump committed crimes, he had active communications with a country he KNEW was attacking our country (see: Russian hack of DNC) and he not only continued working with Russia, but worked to cover up their involvement the best he could. He committed crimes and he betrayed this country. These are indisputable facts. But you don't care because "dems".

Like I said, like it's not unpatriotic or crazy.
Trump supporters have no facts to support them so they have to resort to red herrings. Also, it's a favored tactic of some on these forums.
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It is sad that you think you calling someone a criminal is something that makes it so. I will wait for a conviction to happen. You can call Trump a crook to your heart's content and I will just laugh because this is the same crap that was thrown at Kavanaugh. I suppose the difference is, I respect our constitution and the concept of a presumption of innocence. You don't.

I suspect that the constant crying wolf is not going to work out for you all. But you might be right-he might be convicted of something. We will wait and see.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I take it this is your white flag. Fair enough.

The fact is a crime committed is a crime committed, even if there are no convictions. You can play dumb all you want and pretend you don't know DOJ guidelines state a sitting President shouldn't be indicted, but we both know you know your words here are not honest.

The fact is Trump committed crimes and betrayed our country and you supporting this man just because you want to troll your political opposites suggests your loyalty does not lie with America.

Well, I tell you what then. Let's have Trump resign the Presidency right now and have him get charged with crimes. Let's just see how that plays out, shall we? :roll:

Trump supporters can't argue facts, so they resort to deflections and dishonesty. It is indisputable at this point there were ACTIVE communications between the Trump campaign and Russia. It is indisputable at this point (since Cohen pleaded guilty) that the Trump campaign violated federal election law (at Trump's behest, according to the guilty plea of Cohen) and that Trump not only knew about it, but also reimbursed Cohen.

You can play dumb all you want, but we both know it is not honest. Trump committed crimes, he had active communications with a country he KNEW was attacking our country (see: Russian hack of DNC) and he not only continued working with Russia, but worked to cover up their involvement the best he could. He committed crimes and he betrayed this country. These are indisputable facts. But you don't care because "dems".

Like I said, like it's not unpatriotic or crazy.
Trump supporters have no facts to support them so they have to resort to red herrings. Also, it's a favored tactic of some on these forums.
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Actually the above are not facts at all:

What is a fact is that Mueller has INDICTED nobody from the Trump campaign for anything related to "collusion" even though he has evidence that some minor officials did have contact with some minor Russian officials.
 
TurtleDude said:
He's also one of the biggest hacks going. He's a rat and now hates the GOP
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Here's a newsflash for you;- People are ALLOWED to change their political affiliations if they wish. Heck donald trump used to be a democrat you know.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I take it this is your white flag. Fair enough.

The fact is a crime committed is a crime committed, even if there are no convictions. You can play dumb all you want and pretend you don't know DOJ guidelines state a sitting President shouldn't be indicted, but we both know you know your words here are not honest.

The fact is Trump committed crimes and betrayed our country and you supporting this man just because you want to troll your political opposites suggests your loyalty does not lie with America.

Well, I tell you what then. Let's have Trump resign the Presidency right now and have him get charged with crimes. Let's just see how that plays out, shall we? :roll:

Trump supporters can't argue facts, so they resort to deflections and dishonesty. It is indisputable at this point there were ACTIVE communications between the Trump campaign and Russia. It is indisputable at this point (since Cohen pleaded guilty) that the Trump campaign violated federal election law (at Trump's behest, according to the guilty plea of Cohen) and that Trump not only knew about it, but also reimbursed Cohen.

You can play dumb all you want, but we both know it is not honest. Trump committed crimes, he had active communications with a country he KNEW was attacking our country (see: Russian hack of DNC) and he not only continued working with Russia, but worked to cover up their involvement the best he could. He committed crimes and he betrayed this country. These are indisputable facts. But you don't care because "dems".

Like I said, like it's not unpatriotic or crazy.
Trump supporters have no facts to support them so they have to resort to red herrings. Also, it's a favored tactic of some on these forums.
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It doesn't matter if trump committed a million crimes. The republican party are sticking by him regardless how many laws he has broken. Hopefully the democrats in the House will investigate the pants off him, his family and the republicans who have aided and abbetted this crook.

And hopefully trump will go to jail and not be pardoned like Nixon was.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I take it this is your white flag. Fair enough.

The fact is a crime committed is a crime committed, even if there are no convictions. You can play dumb all you want and pretend you don't know DOJ guidelines state a sitting President shouldn't be indicted, but we both know you know your words here are not honest.

The fact is Trump committed crimes and betrayed our country and you supporting this man just because you want to troll your political opposites suggests your loyalty does not lie with America.

Well, I tell you what then. Let's have Trump resign the Presidency right now and have him get charged with crimes. Let's just see how that plays out, shall we? :roll:

Trump supporters can't argue facts, so they resort to deflections and dishonesty. It is indisputable at this point there were ACTIVE communications between the Trump campaign and Russia. It is indisputable at this point (since Cohen pleaded guilty) that the Trump campaign violated federal election law (at Trump's behest, according to the guilty plea of Cohen) and that Trump not only knew about it, but also reimbursed Cohen.

You can play dumb all you want, but we both know it is not honest. Trump committed crimes, he had active communications with a country he KNEW was attacking our country (see: Russian hack of DNC) and he not only continued working with Russia, but worked to cover up their involvement the best he could. He committed crimes and he betrayed this country. These are indisputable facts. But you don't care because "dems".

Like I said, like it's not unpatriotic or crazy.
Trump supporters have no facts to support them so they have to resort to red herrings. Also, it's a favored tactic of some on these forums.
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trump supporters were quick to call President Obama and Hillary Clinton criminals despite ZERO evidence to support any of the allegations.

1. President Obama was born in Hawaii - FACT.
2. President Obama is NOT a muslim - FACT.....and supported by the late and great war hero John McCain
3. President Obama did NOT wire tap trump's penthouse in trump towers - FACT.
4. Hillary Clinton did NOT kill those Americans in Benghazi - FACT. She asked for additional security for the embassy and guess who DENIED it. The republicans.
5. Hillary Clinton did NOT send classified information on her private email server. FACT - cos the multi-million dollar investigations found ZERO crimes were committed.
6. Hillary Clinton did NOT operate a child trafficking ring in a Washington Pizzeria - FACT.

And despite all these FACTS - the trumpsters still believe President Obama and Hillary are criminals.
 
TurtleDude said:
Where is the convictions? Oh I forgot. Due process and the rule of law is something the Trump or Kavanaugh haters don't believe in-except when it comes to politicians they like.
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Gee you President Obama and Hillary haters don't believe in due process and the rule of law when you accused them of those imaginary crimes you claim they committed. Remind me again about the child trafficking ring that Hillary was running in a pizzeria in DC? And President Obama apparently knew about it and covered it up. Oh and didn't some crazy trump loving chick claim she had a video of Hillary raping and killing a child?

And Hillary and President Obama never once tweeted a million times about how they were being treated badly by the big bad media. trump is probably tweeting AGAIN as I type. Who is he gonna call a moron and incompetent this time? He hires them and then fires them. Only the very best people....NOT!
 
Impeachment proceedings will begin once Trump's popularity with his base tanks.

So likely won't happen.

The best anyone can hope for is that the Democrats don't screw it up again in 2020 with a horrible candidate who can't even beat Trump.
 
TurtleDude said:
I figured John Dean would be a hero of the Trump haters.
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I figured criminals who didn't "rat" on other criminal scum would be heroes of the modern right. It's Trump's GOP now, and those are his values.
 
Dean seeking to somehow be relevant again, is sad to watch.
 
Airyaman said:
Impeachment proceedings will begin once Trump's popularity with his base tanks.

So likely won't happen.

The best anyone can hope for is that the Democrats don't screw it up again in 2020 with a horrible candidate who can't even beat Trump.
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Which is a distinct possibility. Who do they have? Warren, Bernie, Biden, Beto, Booker? None of them can beat Trump short of an economic collapse.
 
JoanDavis said:
Here's a newsflash for you;- People are ALLOWED to change their political affiliations if they wish. Heck donald trump used to be a democrat you know.
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Yeah I know-you missed the point.
 
JoanDavis said:
Gee you President Obama and Hillary haters don't believe in due process and the rule of law when you accused them of those imaginary crimes you claim they committed. Remind me again about the child trafficking ring that Hillary was running in a pizzeria in DC? And President Obama apparently knew about it and covered it up. Oh and didn't some crazy trump loving chick claim she had a video of Hillary raping and killing a child?

And Hillary and President Obama never once tweeted a million times about how they were being treated badly by the big bad media. trump is probably tweeting AGAIN as I type. Who is he gonna call a moron and incompetent this time? He hires them and then fires them. Only the very best people....NOT!
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did I ever come close to claiming Hillary was running such a ring? Did I even hint at that ever? NO
 
TurtleDude said:
It is sad that you think you calling someone a criminal is something that makes it so.
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No, them committing crimes is what makes them criminal. Obviously.

I will wait for a conviction to happen.
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Dishonest, for reasons I already mentioned.

You can call Trump a crook to your heart's content
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Don't forget I said he betrayed America, because he did.

The fact you support someone who committed crimes and betrayed America to become President just to troll your political opposites is crazy and unpatrotic.

I suppose the difference is, I respect our constitution and the concept of a presumption of innocence. You don't.
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Well, that's just not true. Let's see some of your past comments regarding Clintons, shall we?

TurtleDude said:
This has been a paid political advertisement. Yeah the clinton crime family-120 Million and counting-care about the middle class.
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TurtleDude said:
because we have a FIRST amendment. DUH. we also have a second amendment too-something you all don't have either. and in America, truth is a defense. Her husband was convicted of perjury and see certainly aided and abetted it. she essentially was an accessory before and after the fact.
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TurtleDude said:
I already did and he basically admitted to it without being convicted of it. fact remains he lied, he admitted he lied. Its like people who are busted driving drunk and plead it out as driving recklessly. The fact is, I could state that Clinton is a liar and engaged in perjury and there is not a damn thing he could do about it because I would be sustained in a court of law even if he was a private citizen.
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TurtleDude said:
If she wins I will bet that she won't serve a second term. The health issues make her completing one term a 50-50 proposition. I agree with you, but the sooner the clinton's are gone from the public arena, the better. They are a scummy crime family who do nothing but get rich from puplic office
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TurtleDude said:
If Bernie or 100 other Democrats were the nominee, then maybe, just maybe, I would actually believe those attacking Trump on his loutish comments and perhaps behavior towards some women are actually being truthful. But not with Hillary being the nominee. The clinton crime family's actions towards women make this attack on Trump completely political opportunism
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So, when it comes to Donald Trump, who betrayed America and committed crimes to become President, you claim to care about the Constitution, but when it is the Clintons, even when you acknowledge there was no conviction, you still call them a crime family and Hillary an accessory to a crime.

So, in other words, you're not telling the truth (I know I, for one, am SHOCKED :roll:). You only seem to "respect our constitution and the concept of a presumption of innocence" when it comes to someone betraying America by working with a hostile foreign government.

Like I keep saying, not like that's crazy or unpatriotic...
Athanasius68 said:
Actually the above are not facts at all:

What is a fact is that Mueller has INDICTED nobody from the Trump campaign for anything related to "collusion" even though he has evidence that some minor officials did have contact with some minor Russian officials.
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I thought about typing out a reply to this post of lies, but ultimately decided it wasn't worth the effort. Have a good day.
 
Slyfox696 said:
No, them committing crimes is what makes them criminal. Obviously.

Dishonest, for reasons I already mentioned.

Don't forget I said he betrayed America, because he did.

The fact you support someone who committed crimes and betrayed America to become President just to troll your political opposites is crazy and unpatrotic.

Well, that's just not true. Let's see some of your past comments regarding Clintons, shall we?







So, when it comes to Donald Trump, who betrayed America and committed crimes to become President, you claim to care about the Constitution, but when it is the Clintons, even when you acknowledge there was no conviction, you still call them a crime family and Hillary an accessory to a crime.

So, in other words, you're not telling the truth (I know I, for one, am SHOCKED :roll:). You only seem to "respect our constitution and the concept of a presumption of innocence" when it comes to someone betraying America by working with a hostile foreign government.

Like I keep saying, not like that's crazy or unpatriotic...

I thought about typing out a reply to this post of lies, but ultimately decided it wasn't worth the effort. Have a good day.
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clinton was convicted of perjury. so the rest of your rant is a complete fail
 
TurtleDude said:
clinton was convicted of perjury. so the rest of your rant is a complete fail
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A) You literally said he wasn't.
B) He wasn't.
C) Please point me to where Hillary was convicted of perjury.

Yet more untruthful statements, all to defend a man who committed crimes and betrayed America, just so you can troll your political opposites. And your "respect for the Constitution" by not calling people not convicted a criminal was untrue, as I have proven with your past statements.

The amount of dishonesty on this forum is nearly overwhelming at times.
 
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