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Is this country blind stupid?

nota bene said:
So if someone disagrees with your opinion on credit card debt, he's a bad parent? Yikes.
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If the purchases were for non-essentials, then yes, they are bad parents. My parents were both addicted to cigarettes and coffee. And the only food we ate is what was put on our plates. There were no leftovers...
A lot of people pay high interest rates on their cards, even the middle class. Those that don't understand interest pay it, those that do collect it....
 
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nota bene said:
So if someone disagrees with your opinion on credit card debt, he's a bad parent? Yikes.
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Problem is no one said anything like that, the point is clearly directed at the person that I was commenting to , I disagree with who I think he is, that is a conservative that hoot and hollers about the poor being poor because they deserve it , they didn't work hard enough they didn't work 3 jobs per parent . It's all there fault, they are all faking . A Ugly person like that won't give a **** about feeding and housing anyone but himself.
 
UtahBill said:
If the purchases were for non-essentials, then yes, they are bad parents. My parents were both addicted to cigarettes and coffee. And the only food we ate is what was put on our plates. There were no leftovers...
A lot of people pay high interest rates on their cards, even the middle class. Those that don't understand interest pay it, those that do collect it....
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There you go you just verified my point I just made for me . You can read post 177 or I'll repeat it here"I disagree with who I think he is, that is a conservative that hoot and hollers about the poor being poor because they deserve it , they didn't work hard enough they didn't work 3 jobs per parent . It's all there fault, they are all faking . A Ugly person like that won't give a **** about feeding and housing anyone but himself. "
 
By the way these poor people haters have no clue about this subject , they know nothing about the poor other then what their hate party tells them and that just bull****. If anyone's interested I've worked as a volunteer three times a week for over 20 years , helping the homeless and people in need , Open doors for Youth, homeless kids from 13 to 23 , Family promise for families living on the streets and emotion anonymous where half of the mental problems they are dealing with is directly the result of being poor, sick or old. I'll tell you anything you want to know , and the one thing from the beginning is these people know nothing about it ,
 
jbander said:
Problem is no one said anything like that, the point is clearly directed at the person that I was commenting to , I disagree with who I think he is, that is a conservative that hoot and hollers about the poor being poor because they deserve it , they didn't work hard enough they didn't work 3 jobs per parent . It's all there fault, they are all faking . A Ugly person like that won't give a **** about feeding and housing anyone but himself.
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You don't answer questions put to you, and make assumptions about those who disagree with you. I can brag as well as you, or complain as well as you, but that fixes nothing. Wife and I don't do Christmas like most people, we get little or nothing for ourselves and with advice from local churches we provide Christmas for an entire family. This year it is a family of 8, the parents and 6 kids, that are facing high medical bills for the mother's breast cancer.
Now, about YOU....are you a perennial whiner about those who have more than you? Do you assume that they got their place in life the easy way? Many of my neighbors are wealthy, should I resent them for getting it easier than me and my wife? We are in our 70's and have pretty much all we need and much of what we want. We are paying for the college educations of 8 grandkids, after doing so for our 2 children. We have the money to do this, but it wasn't given to us and it wasn't a lucky accident. We planned for it to be this way for our 52 years together. Planning and doing works far better than whining and expecting. But your way might work, if you get enough people like you to vote yourselves a larger portion of the nation's wealth.
 
jbander said:
Problem is no one said anything like that, the point is clearly directed at the person that I was commenting to , I disagree with who I think he is, that is a conservative that hoot and hollers about the poor being poor because they deserve it , they didn't work hard enough they didn't work 3 jobs per parent . It's all there fault, they are all faking . A Ugly person like that won't give a **** about feeding and housing anyone but himself.
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Not said by me, who are you talking to?
 
jbander said:
There is only really one issue that makes or breaks whether something is communism or socialism. It the means of production is owned by the government and the sale of that production is charged to the government . Your list is concise enough and I would ask if anyone sees any of this being part of this country, not advocating but existing. All countries have a progressive tax structure, that doesn't make them communists and all countries have government paid for schools. . the rest don't exist in this country. Like I said your just a bull****er you have no idea what communism is or socialism is , I'm 73 and have never heard one person in my lifetime advocate that all factories and business being owned by the government and that they should be in charge of all sales of the factories products. Without that there is zero socialism or communism in this country. So everyone know that the reason you charge everyone that doesn't agree with your opinion commies and socialist is because you have no fricken idea what they mean.
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Never?

...this liberal will be all about socializing...basically taking over, and the government running all of your companies. - Maxine Waters(D)
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apdst said:
Never?
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I guesss I must have missed her saying that, she wanted government to own all businesses and be in charge of all sales of what these business produce. Without The means of production being owned by the state, then there is no Socialism or communism. Please shoe me the quote where she said this.
 
UtahBill said:
You don't answer questions put to you, and make assumptions about those who disagree with you. I can brag as well as you, or complain as well as you, but that fixes nothing. Wife and I don't do Christmas like most people, we get little or nothing for ourselves and with advice from local churches we provide Christmas for an entire family. This year it is a family of 8, the parents and 6 kids, that are facing high medical bills for the mother's breast cancer.
Now, about YOU....are you a perennial whiner about those who have more than you? Do you assume that they got their place in life the easy way? Many of my neighbors are wealthy, should I resent them for getting it easier than me and my wife? We are in our 70's and have pretty much all we need and much of what we want. We are paying for the college educations of 8 grandkids, after doing so for our 2 children. We have the money to do this, but it wasn't given to us and it wasn't a lucky accident. We planned for it to be this way for our 52 years together. Planning and doing works far better than whining and expecting. But your way might work, if you get enough people like you to vote yourselves a larger portion of the nation's wealth.
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You have to lie to say anything in response , never said one thing about people being rich are generally bad bad , I said I That being rich they have just that much larger responsibility to support the needy, As in not being able to get a camel through the eye of the needle. The responsibility is a morel responsibility, I just assumed you had none , hardly ever meet a right winger dinger that gives a **** about anyone but them selves. I simply see your hate group as a threat to my country along with the Pumpkin Man they put in office, I just want you all to disappear. We need a new conservative group that is driven by something other then hate and their opinion that they are the only ones that count. By the way you have spewed enough ugliness here that I consider you a hard conservative and there is not one good hard conservative in this country, We have to dump all of you, Plus I never believe what a conservative says. This hate group survives and operates on lies , just watch the leader they support.
 
UtahBill said:
You don't answer questions put to you, and make assumptions about those who disagree with you. I can brag as well as you, or complain as well as you, but that fixes nothing. Wife and I don't do Christmas like most people, we get little or nothing for ourselves and with advice from local churches we provide Christmas for an entire family. This year it is a family of 8, the parents and 6 kids, that are facing high medical bills for the mother's breast cancer.
Now, about YOU....are you a perennial whiner about those who have more than you? Do you assume that they got their place in life the easy way? Many of my neighbors are wealthy, should I resent them for getting it easier than me and my wife? We are in our 70's and have pretty much all we need and much of what we want. We are paying for the college educations of 8 grandkids, after doing so for our 2 children. We have the money to do this, but it wasn't given to us and it wasn't a lucky accident. We planned for it to be this way for our 52 years together. Planning and doing works far better than whining and expecting. But your way might work, if you get enough people like you to vote yourselves a larger portion of the nation's wealth.
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What the hell are you responding to this anyway, it was a comment to someone else. Like I said I will balance the budget , I know exactly what should be cut and how much to raise the taxes on the wealthy and business and you better believe that all the tax cut for business and the wealthy that the right gave over 75% to less then 20% of the population. You better believe That 20 percent and corporate tax will end instantly , it will anyway real soon, when we get rid of you haters that hand it all to the wealthy. , These increased taxes are taxes they deserve if they want to operate in my country with my infrastructure and me being the market that made them rich in the first place . These businesses and wealthy owe everyone here big time. The 80% that is left after the we take back the 75% that went to the golden few. Plus probably a boot on them also Few more percent or maybe a little more. The weathy democrats will be more then happy to except their responsibility they have to this great country and the needy , They won't even blink paying those taxes. Just the greedy and the people who think they deserve it all will.
 
jbander said:
What the hell are you responding to this anyway, it was a comment to someone else. Like I said I will balance the budget , I know exactly what should be cut and how much to raise the taxes on the wealthy and business and you better believe that all the tax cut for business and the wealthy that the right gave over 75% to less then 20% of the population. You better believe That 20 percent and corporate tax will end instantly , it will anyway real soon, when we get rid of you haters that hand it all to the wealthy. , These increased taxes are taxes they deserve if they want to operate in my country with my infrastructure and me being the market that made them rich in the first place . These businesses and wealthy owe everyone here big time. The 80% that is left after the we take back the 75% that went to the golden few. Plus probably a boot on them also Few more percent or maybe a little more. The weathy democrats will be more then happy to except their responsibility they have to this great country and the needy , They won't even blink paying those taxes. Just the greedy and the people who think they deserve it all will.
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If someone else, then reply using their posts. If you think you will ever get in a position to balance the budget, then you are delusional. Good luck....
 
UtahBill said:
If someone else, then reply using their posts. If you think you will ever get in a position to balance the budget, then you are delusional. Good luck....
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I can balance easy
 
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