Ocasio-Cortez will do more damage to Dems than Trump or GOP!

nota bene said:

Yes, how about that instead of:

Unreasonable ideologue #1: We should reason together. Let us both reach across the aisle. But you first.

Unreasonable ideologue #2: No, you first. You never go first.

#1: Yes, I do!
#2: No, you don't. Not ever!

#1: Do too!
#2: Do not. Not, not, not!

Endlessly....

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That's the problem, you hit it on the nail. Today, compromise means to both major parties, give me everything I want, you get nothing. The majority of Americans want the two parties to work together, to compromise. To work things out between them. It is said of compromise that when neither major party is happy about the results, most Americans are.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/220265/americans-favor-compromise-things-done-washington.aspx

Since the late 90's I would say was the beginning of this no compromise mantra. Perhaps the Hastert rule was the start as Lott and Daschle, the leaders of the senate would still work together to get things done. Not Reid and McConnell or Schumer who followed Reid. I do think what the two major parties fail to realize is what we swing voters, some call us independents or the non-affiliated, what we give one election we can take away the next. Perhaps it is time for us to begin voting Republican one election, democratic the next, followed by GOP again until these two major parties get off their high horses and begin working on an American agenda, not just a political party one.

independentusa said:

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/fbi-matthew-whitaker-investigation/14091/
The problem that the GOP is having is limiting itself in who can be part of and take part of the control of its party. The Dems have always seemed to allow greater leeway in who is part of their party. Now a newly elected Dem may end that and do more damage to the Dems than either Trump or the GOP can do. It seems this newly elected Dem, Ocasio-Cortez wants to eliminate all of those in the party that don't agree with the views of her group, the very far left. In essence, she is asking "her" followers to cut out y a large portion of her own party and us independents who make the difference in an election. She is doing exactly what the GOP did when the Tea Party became so strong in the GOP, use that power in the primaries to cut out any that are not true believers. In the end she will do more damage to the Dems in the end than Trump or the GOP. I bet the GOP is cheering her on!!!!

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The GOP nominated a child predator for Senate in Alabama, a dead pimp in Nevada, and elected a fat reality TV star with the intellectual ability of a brain-damaged ungulate as President.

Ocasio-Cortez doesn't seem so ridiculous in that light

Ocasio-Cortez thinks the three "chambers" of government are the Presidency, the House, and the Senate.

Bullseye said:

Huh? Since when? Ever hear of the Tea Party?

Yeah, that's obvious in the way the bent over backwards to ensure Bernie Sanders had a fair chance to win the Presidential nomination while the GOP only had eighteen candidates.

It is delicious irony.

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The Tea Party is with Trump and they are the ones who told GOP members if they did not do as the Tea Party and Trump want, they will primary them. Sound familiar, that is what this freshman Dem is saying.

independentusa said:

The Tea Party is with Trump and they are the ones who told GOP members if they did not do as the Tea Party and Trump want, they will primary them. Sound familiar, that is what this freshman Dem is saying.

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Yep, and if you remember if the early days tea party nominated a few candidates that lost to Democrats in races the Dem incumbent could have won.

nota bene said:

Why, yes. Yes, it does. I'm all for good manner on all sides of the aisle. I'd like to think that you are too.



Whoa--where is this hyperbolic "out to destroy the moral fabric of America" bit coming from? Certainly not from me.

Who has said this? Links?

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I'm very much for good manners, and as Michelle Obama has stated, when they go low we go high. The truth is we have a person sitting in the WH who behaves in the most boorish unmannerly fashion conceivable, and yet there is concern that a freshman congresswoman is tanking the decorum. I think I might be more likely to jump on the train to correct AOC after hearing a lot more correction of DT.

I would refer you to Acadia's posts for the hyperbole, along with Fox News. It's a pretty steady stream.

uptower said:

There's this fantasy on the right that socialism equals Venezuela (or Stalin)

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If that were absolutely true, and if socialism was such a threat, the USA would have already gone socialist in the 1930's.
It didn't. We threw a couple of minor quasi-socialist tweaks into our capitalist economy so that it served the working class first, and we still had innumerable filthy rich capitalists strolling around and enjoying their wealth anyway.

To paraphrase Will Rogers:
"The money was in their hands before nightfall, but at least it passed through the little guy's hands first."

But what we also had was the greatest economic upturn in the history of the world. Anyone willing to put in their forty hours a week was able to put a roof over their heads, food on the table, and save for the future.

The New Deal lifted an entire generation out of poverty. And that is about as "socialist" as America will ever become.
Funny thing is, nothing we've embraced since has ever equaled the OVERALL standard of living and quality of life we enjoyed then.

NOTHING.