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Race and Politics

Its dodging because you simply state a cliche conclusion with no reasons or logic to back it up.

Everyone knows the right wing memes, and repeating them doesnt so anything to justify them.

Stop finding race in every action and utterance, no matter how benign, and people will stop pointing it out. There comes a time when people get enough of being lied about.
 
the radical leftists are no longer going to listen to anything like this, they have found too much power in the racism claim. Conservatives are going to have to start resorting to publishing nonsensical studies that use leading questions and broad interpretations to point to, in order to refute the arguments from their side... all while having 2 people support that claim and another say anyone who disagrees is a moron to drive home the argument, whether its right or not.

its a psychological game, and unfortunately, it works.

The left has always most loudly accused their opponents of the things they are guilty of.
 
Yes, it's a good thing our President never mentions things like "African-American unemployment rates" or Judges can't be fair and impartial because of their Mexican heritage.

So, pointing out low AA unemployment is a bad thing, I guess.
 
Really want to know? IMO having grown up in several "ghettos" around the country, it's because the Democrats became the Party of "give-ism." They take other people's money and give it to us. We could count on them excusing all of our faults as due to oppression, racism, and slavery. That and they offer us goodies in the form of free or near free HUD or section 8 housing, guaranteed incomes playing the welfare system if we have enough kids or can't find a job, free or near free college educations with head-of-the-line affirmative action programs while making special SJW jobs for us!!

Why not vote for them? Of course now they are trying to replace us with immigrants, so that's starting to rock our boat...

(All the above is sarcasm with a grain of truth) ;)

Politics is about coalitions. Racists are part of the Republican coalition. You can’t deny that. All the states that voted for segregation are now red.

Welfare was politically popular. FDR ran and won 4 terms on a chicken in every pot. It’s only when Blacks got welfare that it became unpopular. Conservatives used the image of Blacks on welfare as a political tool to excite racist Whites.

I haven’t even gone into the racism of drug prohibition that turned Black communities into war zones.

And if welfare is so bad why are so many European welfare states so successful?


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Politics is about coalitions. Racists are part of the Republican coalition. You can’t deny that. All the states that voted for segregation are now red.

Welfare was politically popular. FDR ran and won 4 terms on a chicken in every pot. It’s only when Blacks got welfare that it became unpopular. Conservatives used the image of Blacks on welfare as a political tool to excite racist Whites.

I haven’t even gone into the racism of drug prohibition that turned Black communities into war zones.

And if welfare is so bad why are so many European welfare states so successful?

The sixties are calling for you. :roll:

Now you have made a number of generalizations based on appeals to popularity (i.e. "everyone knows this is true"). Let me respond in kind with my humble opinions.

Yes, there are probably racists in the Republican Party (those few who don't have their own nationalist minor party affiliations).

But I contend that there are also racists in the Democratic Party. Aside from the obvious race-baiting members of various Democratic minority blocs, there are also some White Liberals who are all about equality...as long as it doesn't live in their neighborhoods or date their son's and daughters. BTW, every time someone lumps all "White people" together with any type of characteristic...that is also racism.

Yes, welfare is always politically popular. History is replete with examples including the "bread and circuses" used by the Roman elites to keep Roman citizens happy...on the backs of slaves and tribute from the conquered territories. In our time it is "take from the rich and give to the poor" when IMHO it should be "teach a man to fish and he can take care of himself."

Blacks are not the only people on welfare, there are many Whites and Hispanics there too. The difference is (IMHO) that after Johnson's "Great Society" efforts many of my peers in the Black Community learned it is easier to work the system then it is to go out and exercise good work ethics with real employment. Yet I have noted many members of the Black Community who work hard, get married, raise families and do very well financially in this "racist, oppressive" society. Strangely, many other members of the Black Community call such citizens denigrating names.

As for the welfare states in Europe? Much is being made of this and yet...since the influx of migrants there seems to be a strain on several EU member state's economies...and all is not well in many social situations as these migrants seek to impose their culture, mores, and laws on their adopted nations.

Sooo...see, your tactics work both ways. However, I am offering opinions based on my worldview. You are asserting things as if they are established facts.
 
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Sorry, but absentee ballots and early voting negate those excuses. I haven't actually voted on election day in well over a decade, maybe two.

Educating people about the process is good. Teaching civic lessons and civic duty is much better than the kubaya crap ending in a group hug.

We had 60 absentee ballots and early voting out of 1400 registered voters. I am willing to bet half of them were straight party.
 
We had 60 absentee ballots and early voting out of 1400 registered voters. I am willing to bet half of them were straight party.

Evidence? Just curious. I did the same; straight Libertarian ticket.

As for numbers, over half of the 2016 votes in my county were through early voting. I expect about the same this year.
 
Evidence? Just curious. I did the same; straight Libertarian ticket.

As for numbers, over half of the 2016 votes in my county were through early voting. I expect about the same this year.

I have never voted straight party. There always seems to be a couple of candidates I just don't agree with or the other party makes more sense. I have thought about early voting but a lot of times I don't make up my mind about some races until the last minute. Most of these candidates talk one hell of great game and I have trouble figuring out which one to believe. Plus sometimes information right before the election comes out that leads me to lean one way or the other.

I forgot about the military and people who work abroad. I did not consider that in larger cities a lot of people have jobs that drag them all over the country or even the world and have no choice. In my district most people work locally. Plus I like to work the polls and see who turns out.
 
The left only promotes two key fundamentals with regards to race and gender:
- improved representation to offset historical, primitive, traditional gender and race segregation of jobs, leadership, etc.
- acceptance of other races/cultures in America as a matter of ethics

Republicans on the other hand, have made it a key strategy for decades, to say outrageous racist, bigoted, and xenophobic things, to incite a justified and reasonable reaction from (everyone else, including many Democrats), which they then say is proof leftists hate white people.

Dog whistle about racism, mainstream America condemns it, Republicans parade that around as being against white men and against America. You can watch this in real time during a weekly news cycle, it's predictable, and pathetic. You see it on DP with race baiting posts too, like clockwork.
 
So it's okay to mention race, as long as it's Trump doing it? Is that about right?

It all has to do with context. Reporting unemployment numbers is a perfectly legitimate thing to do. Wailing that any people who oppose illegal immigration are racists is illegitimate.
 
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