Are democrats really proud of Antifa

Logical1 said:

When it comes right down to it, Antifa is the brown shirt mob of the democrat party. They went to the home of Tucker Carlson's and defaced his property, and scare the absolute hell out of his wife who was home alone. She had to hide in her pantry, while she called 911.

I guess the bottom line question here is------------------are there any democrats on the forum that are proud of Antifa's actions in this case, and if not why are you not demanding they be disbanded. After all they have been labeled a terrorist group.

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Oh looky. It's another brand new conservative calling themselves logical. A Wed Wose... how Womantic!

Blue Dog said:

Speaking as a Blue Dog Democrat, I would not want Antifa being the face of the party. There is a thin line between progressive and radical.

Jmo

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I think it's a rather blatant fat line where one is about policy ideals through democracy and the other is more about violence.

Mary Dunsmore said:

I would gently remove ANTIFA from existence by shooting them all through the middle of the head. Quick and painless, and who needs socialists anyway ?

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Some cheeses are more sharp than others. You usually get that through the aging process. The more age the sharper the cheese. It's an awesome process.

Ikari said:

I'm tired of politics being about "perception". It should be about political ideology, reason, intelligence, and debate. It's one of the reasons I cannot stand Trump, nor the hyperpartisan crap fest that is the Republocrat Oligarchy.

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Our elections for the most part are nothing more than beauty contests. Perhaps I should say ugly contests as sane debates on substance, ideas, possible solutions to our problems, visions of the future, etc. have become things of the past. In this era of politics it is all about opposition research, negative personal attacks, digging up dirt and muck, slinging away with anything that might stick. True, false or indifferent.

The whole idea is to get the voter to hate the other guy more than they hate you. We've entered an era where political strategy is divide and conquer. Pit one group against another, practice the politics of fear. My god if you vote for the other guy, the other party the world will come to a flaming end. This is the era where parties practice the politics of destruction.

I have no use for that. That is how I perceive the goings on of today. Even with all the hyperbole about Trump, my life is not different than it was under Obama or G.W. Bush. No different under Bill Clinton or G.H.W. Bush or even Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Ford or Nixon. I could add LBJ, IKE and the buck stops here, Harry S. Truman. Although I was way too young to remember anything about Harry personally. I was born right after WWII.

ultmd said:

LOL, stalker?

This is a political message board. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the back-and-forth dialogue that takes place on a site like this, huh?

Don't be such a snowflake. You haven't been repeatedly suspended simply because you've been "responding in kind".

But hey.....if that's what you need to tell yourself, don't let me be the one to stop you. :lamo

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Twice, once for calling someone a snowflake. You sure are a strange bird.

Cardinal said:

Then you're dismissed on sight. Goodbye.

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:lamo you completely left out my explanation for why I dismissed it on sight :lamo

Wikipedia is not a very good source, in my opinion. I don't have to accept any source that I don't find to be credible or proper, and Wikipedia is probably the highest "source" on that list for me.

I also asked you to define "right wing terrorism" since you used it as a buzzword and based your argument on that buzzword (thus making it a void argument). You refused to define your terms...

Come back when you're ready to step out of the kiddie-pool and into the big-boy pool...

gfm7175 said:

:lamo you completely left out my explanation for why I dismissed it on sight :lamo

Wikipedia is not a very good source, in my opinion. I don't have to accept any source that I don't find to be credible or proper, and Wikipedia is probably the highest "source" on that list for me.

I also asked you to define "right wing terrorism" since you used it as a buzzword and based your argument on that buzzword (thus making it a void argument). You refused to define your terms...

Come back when you're ready to step out of the kiddie-pool and into the big-boy pool...

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See those little numbers at the bottom of a Wiki article? Those are their sources, and the GAO was Wiki's source:

"Since September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year. As shown in fatalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent)."

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

But I'm sure you'll dismiss them out of hand too.

Cardinal said:

See those little numbers at the bottom of a Wiki article? Those are their sources, and the GAO was Wiki's source:

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I understand how the little numbers work, but like I said, I dismissed Wikipedia on sight because I don't find it to be a credible source... I will take a look at the GAO source you have now provided as well as go through the snippet you provided...

Cardinal said:

"Since September 12, 2001, the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year. As shown in fatalities resulting from attacks by far right wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001. Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent)."

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

But I'm sure you'll dismiss them out of hand too.

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I see that GAO did offer a definition for "violent extremist", but it seems like 'extremist' isn't the right word to use because the focus seems to be on politically, religiously, or otherwise driven violence. What is 'extreme' or not is rather subjective, but violence is the key. Also, more importantly, neither you nor GAO define what "right-wing extremist" is... it is used as a buzzword. Thus, it is a void argument. What constitutes "right wing" and why is there no mention of "left wing"?

I don't accept 'arguments by buzzword'... Those are logically fallacious arguments...

RileyCoyote said:

Twice, once for calling someone a snowflake. You sure are a strange bird.

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Really?

Well answer me this: What about calling someone a "stalker", and then whining about being called a "snowflake" in response?

Context is always key. And in your case, you have a nasty habit of being nasty without provocation....and then whining about some of the responses you get.

Clearly, I'm not the only person who has noticed.

Regardless, 2 suspensions in your first 30 days on the board....well, that kinda speaks for itself.

Have a wonderful day.

ultmd said:

Really?

Well answer me this: What about calling someone a "stalker", and then whining about being called a "snowflake" in response?

Context is always key. And in your case, you have a nasty habit of being nasty without provocation....and then whining about some of the responses you get.

Clearly, I'm not the only person who has noticed.

Regardless, 2 suspensions in your first 30 days on the board....well, that kinda speaks for itself.

Have a wonderful day.

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If the shoe fits.....and who's whining? Am I supposed to feel ashamed? Sorry, but I feel fine.