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    Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Donald Trump Jr. Expecting to be Indicted by Mueller Soon

    Last year, Donald Trump Jr. testified that he never informed his father of a meeting with Russian officials promising “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. It seemed hard to believe that the ne’er-do-well son would neglect to seek credit for his expected campaign coup from the father whose approval he so obviously craves. And now it seems that Robert Mueller has obtained proof that it is not in fact true. The Trump family lies all the time, of course, but doing it under oath is a crime.
    If Mueller has evidence that Trump Jr. committed perjury should charges be pursued?
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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    Donald Trump Jr. Expecting to be Indicted by Mueller Soon



    If Mueller has evidence that Trump Jr. committed perjury should charges be pursued?
    First of all, I doubt it.
    Second of all, Trump Jr. has the money to fight it. Mueller can't ruin him financially and squeeze out a phony plea. Mueller's finest hour was squeezing the last penny out of Flynn for a crime he arguably did not commit but was leveraged to commit further perjury against other Mueller targets. That is how the FBI works.

    If and when the sentence is vacated, Trump should order the FBI's budget be used to reimburse Flynn for all costs.

    And there is still an open question of Mueller's complicity in not preventing the murder of two informants in the Whitey Bulger case. It's a story that needs to be told.
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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    Donald Trump Jr. Expecting to be Indicted by Mueller Soon



    If Mueller has evidence that Trump Jr. committed perjury should charges be pursued?
    Maybe, but we must keep in mind that no "dirt on Hillary" (opposition research?) was ever produced at that meeting. Since no criminal act was being lied about then what, exactly, is the justice involved?
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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    First of all, I doubt it.
    Second of all, Trump Jr. has the money to fight it. Mueller can't ruin him financially and squeeze out a phony plea. Mueller's finest hour was squeezing the last penny out of Flynn for a crime he arguably did not commit but was leveraged to commit further perjury against other Mueller targets. That is how the FBI works.

    If and when the sentence is vacated, Trump should order the FBI's budget be used to reimburse Flynn for all costs.

    And there is still an open question of Mueller's complicity in not preventing the murder of two informants in the Whitey Bulger case. It's a story that needs to be told.
    Flynn was guilty of a much more serious crime of failing to register as a foreign agent and he accepted a plea deal for cooperation.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...-consequences/

    In August 2016, Flynn’s firm, Flynn Intel Group, entered into a contract with Inovo but did not notify DOJ of the agreement until March 2017. Flynn received $530,000 for the work.

    The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) requires Americans representing foreign entities to identify their clients to the Department of Justice within ten days of signing a contract and before starting work.
    Anyway, enough about old notches in Mueller's belt. If Mueller has the evidence that Trump Jr. committed perjury, should he enforce the law?
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    The headline says he resigned, however, he was essentially fired. Michael Bolton needs to bring in his people.

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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Maybe, but we must keep in mind that no "dirt on Hillary" (opposition research?) was ever produced at that meeting. Since no criminal act was being lied about then what, exactly, is the justice involved?
    Trump Jr. testified under oath that he did not tell his father about the meeting. If Mueller has evidence that he did tell his father about the meeting, then that is perjury. Lying about your own actions to obstruct and investigation merits a punishment.

    If the only thing leading you to believe there was no dirt received is a strong Trump denial, then I would argue that a strong Trump denial is meaningless. It adds no credibility to the defense and we can't tell what it does for the prosecution. Since, Trump's denials have been shown to be false more times than they have been shown to be true.
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    It could add fuel to the leftwing attacks on cops that was started by obama when he was president
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    The headline says he resigned, however, he was essentially fired. Michael Bolton needs to bring in his people.

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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Maybe, but we must keep in mind that no "dirt on Hillary" (opposition research?) was ever produced at that meeting. Since no criminal act was being lied about then what, exactly, is the justice involved?
    When you attempt to rob a bank, but fail you have still committed a crime, right? When you attempt to kill someone but fail it's still a crime, right? When you attempt to commit a crime it does not matter if you were successful, right?

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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    If Mueller has the evidence should he pursue charges?
    If any prosecutor, not just Mueller, has evidence that s/he feels is sufficiently probative of an actus reus, and whatever mens rea be required, to obtain a conviction, s/he should file an indictment against the person, Trump, Jr or anyone else. If, on the other hand, the prosecutor's professional judgment suggests a high degree of dubitability about obtaining a conviction, s/he should refrain from levying charges.
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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    Donald Trump Jr. Expecting to be Indicted by Mueller Soon



    If Mueller has evidence that Trump Jr. committed perjury should charges be pursued?
    There are simply too many pieces in play to say what will happen. Mueller doesn't talk, and Whitaker has already taken over the AG position. There is still no word on how Whitaker, unqualified and biased as he clearly is, will react once Mueller fully briefs him on the progress of the investigation.

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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Maybe, but we must keep in mind that no "dirt on Hillary" (opposition research?) was ever produced at that meeting. Since no criminal act was being lied about then what, exactly, is the justice involved?
    1)Irrelevant.
    2)And you believe that because...?

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    Re: Trump Jr. Worried He's Going to Be Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    First of all, I doubt it.
    Second of all, Trump Jr. has the money to fight it. Mueller can't ruin him financially and squeeze out a phony plea. Mueller's finest hour was squeezing the last penny out of Flynn for a crime he arguably did not commit but was leveraged to commit further perjury against other Mueller targets. That is how the FBI works.

    If and when the sentence is vacated, Trump should order the FBI's budget be used to reimburse Flynn for all costs.

    And there is still an open question of Mueller's complicity in not preventing the murder of two informants in the Whitey Bulger case. It's a story that needs to be told.
    If Mueller wants to go for Trump Jr, it won't be to turn him against his father, it will be to prosecute a serious crime.
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