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President Trump make Obama look like a JACKASS again.

This entire thread is about comparing the failures of Obama to the success of President Trump.

Anytime the Left is accurately compared to the Right the Left loses. Screaming "whataboutism" is the Leftist attempt to stop the comparisons.

Funny to see all the old white men still afraid of "Obama"
 
That's your perception though because your politics are most like Obama's.
Follow along with me for a moment, Nate. If your politics resembled Trump's, you'd probably see what I see. The other side bashing your president and his base since election night.

I thought Obama was a very divisive president. Though, if one went along with his vision for the world, one would probably not see it that way.
Yeah, view the video when you get home. Goes to show how arrogantly wrong Obama was when it came to his successor.

I'll give you a bit there, but not the whole enchilada. Do you really believe people treat each other the same way as before? If so, you've been hanging out with rougher crowds than I have … hehe... We've seen a lot of firsts, and a good number of "not in a long time"'s… Love him or hate him, I doubt you'd find too many people tell you that he's not one of a kind...

Meh. I guess I'm just tired, and especially sad today. I find myself pining for days that maybe I just imagined, when people hung out in their driveways and talked about sports and their kids and the latest John Candy movie, and they barely talked about politics, let alone defined themselves exclusively by how they voted. I think I'm gonna put on some headphones tonight, spark a nice fatty, and chill out in 1985 for a bit. :)
 
I know what you asked. I don't live in the land of envy the way you Leftist do. My employer pays me a competitive wage. Thanks to President Trump they have been able to give me a raise. Thanks to Obama, for 8 years they could not give me a raise.
Never ceases to amuse me how every single Trump supporter I debate with assumes that I’m a liberal. Sorry to rattle your world view, but there are a great many of us Independents who are able to see/recognize the good and bad with both parties and make our choices using logic, not emotion. Trump is a bad president and a shi**y person who, if allowed, would lead this country further into extremism and isolationism. Not acceptable.

As for pay raises, average employee earnings went up by 4% during Obama’s tenure while Trump is at 2.7% (with a recent upward trend). So if you haven’t been getting raises you should talk with your bosses because it’s on them not Obama. But you probably won’t because you’re apparently happy with the inequity.
 
I'll give you a bit there, but not the whole enchilada. Do you really believe people treat each other the same way as before? If so, you've been hanging out with rougher crowds than I have … hehe... We've seen a lot of firsts, and a good number of "not in a long time"'s… Love him or hate him, I doubt you'd find too many people tell you that he's not one of a kind...

Meh. I guess I'm just tired, and especially sad today. I find myself pining for days that maybe I just imagined, when people hung out in their driveways and talked about sports and their kids and the latest John Candy movie, and they barely talked about politics, let alone defined themselves exclusively by how they voted. I think I'm gonna put on some headphones tonight, spark a nice fatty, and chill out in 1985 for a bit. :)

I think people are talking about politics much more because the left has done everything in God's name to resist Donald Trump. I really resent the left in my country and the media for making us all so polarized.
 
I think people are talking about politics much more because the left has done everything in God's name to resist Donald Trump. I really resent the left in my country and the media for making us all so polarized.

And I see problems everywhere I look - among "yours", among "mine"...I guess it's just one of those periods in history where everything is a mess. Of course it's more complicated than "Trump!"...or "Lefties!" for that matter.

Bah... Let's just forget this political stuff, coordinate our watches, and watch The Great Outdoors together at 9:00pm EST. :)
 
And Trump is a disgrace to our country.
Trump is a monumental prevaricator, hate/fear mongering bigot, and mega-narcissist demagogue who has put our country deeper in debt, giving huge permanent tax breaks to his big business friends while at the same time making friends and love connections (Un) with despots and dictators around the world.

Today we will see what the country thinks of him.

You surely remember what the country thought of Obama 8 yrs ago.

Obamafail was a monumental prevaricator, hate/fear mongering racist bigot, and mega-narcissist demagogue who has put our country deeper in debt
 
A segment of the country, yes.

Not just a segment, but Obmafail doubled the national debt in just 8 years to 20 Trillion. He borrowed and spent more than all the presidents before him combined. And you complain Trump is adding to the debt that is not even close to Obamafail.

Give it up!
 
You surely remember what the country thought of Obama 8 yrs ago.

Obamafail was a monumental prevaricator, hate/fear mongering racist bigot, and mega-narcissist demagogue who has put our country deeper in debt

Good to see the angry white men still afraid of Obama...LOL
 
Never ceases to amuse me how every single Trump supporter I debate with assumes that I’m a liberal. Sorry to rattle your world view, but there are a great many of us Independents who are able to see/recognize the good and bad with both parties and make our choices using logic, not emotion. Trump is a bad president and a shi**y person who, if allowed, would lead this country further into extremism and isolationism. Not acceptable.

As for pay raises, average employee earnings went up by 4% during Obama’s tenure while Trump is at 2.7% (with a recent upward trend). So if you haven’t been getting raises you should talk with your bosses because it’s on them not Obama. But you probably won’t because you’re apparently happy with the inequity.

That you are using the old tired Leftist talking points about President Trump suggests to me that that is exactly what you are.

The wage increase trend is 3.2% and it has risen faster under President Trump than anytime in the last 10 years.

Feel free to tell me about the Obama policy that had any positive impact on the economy? I could tell what President Trump is doing to improve the economy (reducing regulations & taxes and negotiating trade deals). Something happening during an Administration doesn't mean that President made it happen.
 
Not just a segment, but Obmafail doubled the national debt in just 8 years to 20 Trillion. He borrowed and spent more than all the presidents before him combined. And you complain Trump is adding to the debt that is not even close to Obamafail.

Give it up!
Looks like you are forgetting much, much more than you are remembering.

A refresher: Don't Blame Obama For Doubling The Federal Deficit
Republicans use a sound bite that the federal debt doubled under Obama. In looking at the numbers that is close to being numerically correct but falls short of being 100%. However when you take into account the Great Recession, making W. Bush’s temporary tax cuts permanent, increased Social Security and Medicare spending as more Baby Boomers retire and become 65 years old and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars he inherited the story is quite different.

There are multiple databases that have dollar amounts of the Federal debt. While they have different numbers they are overall close to each other and essentially show the same dollar changes over the years. I am using information from the Federal Reserve of St. Louis.

Impact from the Great Recession

According to the U.S National Bureau of Economic Research, the Great Recession started in December 2007 and ended in June 2009. President Barack Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009, so it had already started before he entered office.

The first thing you notice when looking at the federal deficits from fiscal 2007 (the U.S. government fiscal year ends in September) is that it increased by almost $1 trillion from fiscal 2008 (two months before Obama was elected and four months before he was sworn in) to fiscal 2009. It remained over $1 trillion per year for four years and got below Bush’s last years deficit in fiscal 2015. It continued to decrease until Obama’s last year and has increased in Trump’s first year in office.

Fiscal 2007: $161 billion (next to last year of Bush’s second term)
Fiscal 2008: $459 billion (beginning impact from the Great Recession)
Fiscal 2009: $1.4 trillion (Obama’s first year and in the teeth of the Recession)
Fiscal 2010: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2011: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2012: $1.1 trillion
Fiscal 2013: $680 billion
Fiscal 2014: $485 billion
Fiscal 2015: $438 billion
Fiscal 2016: $587 billion
Fiscal 2017: $666 billion (Trump’s first year of his Presidency)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ower-rate-than-reagan-h-w-bush-or-w-bush/amp/

There’s more, but you ought to have a rudimentary understanding by this point. Your number may be correct, but your message was very wrong.

P.S. I don’t like any unnecessary debt, regardless of who sits in the Oval Office.
 
That you are using the old tired Leftist talking points about President Trump suggests to me that that is exactly what you are.

The wage increase trend is 3.2% and it has risen faster under President Trump than anytime in the last 10 years.

Feel free to tell me about the Obama policy that had any positive impact on the economy? I could tell what President Trump is doing to improve the economy (reducing regulations & taxes and negotiating trade deals). Something happening during an Administration doesn't mean that President made it happen.

What I am using are called facts. You know, those annoying impediments to your assertions.

The last 10 years, huh? What else was our government dealing with during last 10 years? C’mon, you’ll get there. If you need help, check out post #63.

Trump deserves credit for loosening/removing various restrictions that were holding the economy back, and I applaud his work renegotiating trade agreements (his methods leave much to be desired though).
 
Looks like you are forgetting much, much more than you are remembering.

A refresher: Don't Blame Obama For Doubling The Federal Deficit
Republicans use a sound bite that the federal debt doubled under Obama. In looking at the numbers that is close to being numerically correct but falls short of being 100%. However when you take into account the Great Recession, making W. Bush’s temporary tax cuts permanent, increased Social Security and Medicare spending as more Baby Boomers retire and become 65 years old and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars he inherited the story is quite different.

There are multiple databases that have dollar amounts of the Federal debt. While they have different numbers they are overall close to each other and essentially show the same dollar changes over the years. I am using information from the Federal Reserve of St. Louis.

Impact from the Great Recession

According to the U.S National Bureau of Economic Research, the Great Recession started in December 2007 and ended in June 2009. President Barack Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009, so it had already started before he entered office.

The first thing you notice when looking at the federal deficits from fiscal 2007 (the U.S. government fiscal year ends in September) is that it increased by almost $1 trillion from fiscal 2008 (two months before Obama was elected and four months before he was sworn in) to fiscal 2009. It remained over $1 trillion per year for four years and got below Bush’s last years deficit in fiscal 2015. It continued to decrease until Obama’s last year and has increased in Trump’s first year in office.

Fiscal 2007: $161 billion (next to last year of Bush’s second term)
Fiscal 2008: $459 billion (beginning impact from the Great Recession)
Fiscal 2009: $1.4 trillion (Obama’s first year and in the teeth of the Recession)
Fiscal 2010: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2011: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2012: $1.1 trillion
Fiscal 2013: $680 billion
Fiscal 2014: $485 billion
Fiscal 2015: $438 billion
Fiscal 2016: $587 billion
Fiscal 2017: $666 billion (Trump’s first year of his Presidency)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ower-rate-than-reagan-h-w-bush-or-w-bush/amp/

There’s more, but you ought to have a rudimentary understanding by this point. Your number may be correct, but your message was very wrong.

P.S. I don’t like any unnecessary debt, regardless of who sits in the Oval Office.

Deficit is the budget shortfall that creates the National Debt. Obama increased the National Debt more than the 43 previous president combined, which includes "W".

Although there were many bad actors within the private banking community, every Govt policy that caused the 2008 Housing Crash came from Leftist Democrats, not Bush. Obama policies are why it was the slowest recovery in US History.
 
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What I am using are called facts. You know, those annoying impediments to your assertions.

The last 10 years, huh? What else was our government dealing with during last 10 years? C’mon, you’ll get there. If you need help, check out post #63.

Trump deserves credit for loosening/removing various restrictions that were holding the economy back, and I applaud his work renegotiating trade agreements (his methods leave much to be desired though).

I did and I have already refuted it.

There have been 11 recessions since the Great Depression. The trend has always been the deeper the recession the bigger the bounce back. If Obama had just done nothing we would have had a huge bounce back instead of a stagnate 8 years.
 
I did and I have already refuted it.

There have been 11 recessions since the Great Depression. The trend has always been the deeper the recession the bigger the bounce back. If Obama had just done nothing we would have had a huge bounce back.

Done nothing? What do you have to support your theory?
 
Deficit is the budget shortfall that creates the National Debt. Obama increased the National Debt more than the 43 previous president combined, which includes "W".

Although there were many bad actors within the private banking community, every Govt policy that caused the 2008 Housing Crash came from Leftist Democrats, not Bush. Obama policies are why it was the slowest recovery in US History.

Good that you are now acknowledging that Obama wasn’t singularly responsible, as your original post strongly implied.
 
Looks like you are forgetting much, much more than you are remembering.

Don't Blame Obama For Doubling The Federal Deficit

I just did. under Obamafail those 8 yrs it was he that doubled the national debt. Period. And we got in return the worst recovery in US History with his 10 trillion and "0" interest rates.
 
Good to see the angry white men still afraid of Obama...LOL

How can anyone be afraid of a loser like Obamafail. Christ he was so weak, he don't know how to lead so he led from behind, and that was if you could find him. look at NK, hell he ran from NK he was so afraid. He did whatever Putin wanted him to do, he was so scared of Putin. He give billions in cash to Iran in the middle of the night he was so afraid of Iran, so he gives them cash to send to their terrorist and he gives them a deal that does not include inspection anytime anywhere, and never on a military base. He was so scared of Syria when they walked all over Obamafail's red line, that he had Putin verify that Syria got rid of all their WMD, Putin lied to him. White men afraid of Obamafail, are you out of your mind. Christ anyone could squash him like a bug, even a black man or a orange man or a yellow man and any woman of any color.

But hey all you got is your racist comments. Obamafail was a racist and I see you are as well.
 
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How can anyone be afraid of a loser like Obamafail. Christ he was so weak, he don't know how to lead so he led from behind, and that was if you could find him. look at NK, hell he ran from NK he was so afraid. He did whatever Putin wanted him to do, he was so scared of Putin. He give billions in cash to Iran in the middle of the night he was so afraid of Iran, so he gives them cash to send to their terrorist and he gives them a deal that does not include inspection anytime anywhere, and never on a military base. He was so scared of Syria when they walked all over Obamafail's red line, that he had Putin verify that Syria got rid of all their WMD, Putin lied to him. White men afraid of Obamafail, are you out of your mind. Christ anyone could squash him like a bug, even a black man or a orange man or a yellow man and any woman of any color.

But hey all you got is your racist comments. Obamafail was a racist and I see you are as well.

Time for you to be quiet...The Blue Wave is breaking all across America...To wipe away everything you stand for
 
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