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Democrats Lying About Who They Are to Get Elected

AlbqOwl said:
You're saying that all those Black Live Matters people chanting violence against cops are Republcians? Give me a break.
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No breaks given. Make a point and be prepared to back it up. Do you see any Democrats applauding in the video? Point out the applauding Democrats.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
No breaks given. Make a point and be prepared to back it up. Do you see any Democrats applauding in the video? Point out the applauding Democrats.
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I didn't say anything about applauding. I am talking about the non coverage it got in the media, the failure of any prominent Democrat or leftist media person to condemn it, the failure of Democrats on this board condemning it. You know, those people who instantly and massively--all using pretty much the same language--condemn a Republican doing a bad act or that they think they can make look like a bad act.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I didn't say anything about applauding. I am talking about the non coverage it got in the media, the failure of any prominent Democrat or leftist media person to condemn it, the failure of Democrats on this board condemning it. You know, those people who instantly and massively--all using pretty much the same language--condemn a Republican doing a bad act or that they think they can make look like a bad act.
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Someone’s bias is showing. Have you done any research at all with regards to the event in the video (no fibbing)? You expect every Democrat on this board to jump in in on this thread to condemn the video?? Does your rule apply the same when the shoe is on the other foot?
Before this conversation gets too far away from it’s premise, go back and read marke’s post that I first responded to. A baseless, factless rant.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Someone’s bias is showing. Have you done any research at all with regards to the event in the video (no fibbing)? You expect every Democrat on this board to jump in in on this thread to condemn the video?? Does your rule apply the same when the shoe is on the other foot?
Before this conversation gets too far away from it’s premise, go back and read marke’s post that I first responded to. A baseless, factless rant.
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I sure would expect some intellectually honest Democrats to jump in and condemn the activity shown in that video. If it had been a Repuiblican group there would have been a dozen threads started by leftists, all condemning it. But you aren't condemning that leftist group even now but rather you are trying to make me look like the biased one. And that is typical of the difference between the right and left. Those of us on the right are very quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger. So are Democrats and leftwingers quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger.

But when it is a leftwinger, not so much from other leftwingers.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I sure would expect some intellectually honest Democrats to jump in and condemn the activity shown in that video. If it had been a Repuiblican group there would have been a dozen threads started by leftists, all condemning it. But you aren't condemning that leftist group even now but rather you are trying to make me look like the biased one. And that is typical of the difference between the right and left. Those of us on the right are very quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger. So are Democrats and leftwingers quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger.

But when it is a leftwinger, not so much from other leftwingers.
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Who needs to condemn anything when we can just use the AlbqOwl method of dealing with bad things politicians you support have said like Trump.

Just deny it exists altogether or pretend that they didn’t say exactly what they said.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I sure would expect some intellectually honest Democrats to jump in and condemn the activity shown in that video. If it had been a Repuiblican group there would have been a dozen threads started by leftists, all condemning it. But you aren't condemning that leftist group even now but rather you are trying to make me look like the biased one. And that is typical of the difference between the right and left. Those of us on the right are very quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger. So are Democrats and leftwingers quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger.

But when it is a leftwinger, not so much from other leftwingers.
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That is a bold faced lie. Not ONCE have I seen you criticize Trump for ANYTHING.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I sure would expect some intellectually honest Democrats to jump in and condemn the activity shown in that video. If it had been a Repuiblican group there would have been a dozen threads started, all condemning it. You aren't condemning it now. You are trying to make me look like the biased one. And that is typical of the difference between the right and left. Those of us on the right are very quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger. So are Democrats and leftwingers quick to condemn and reject truly despicable activities or speech by some idiot right winger.

But when it is a leftwinger, not so much from other leftwingers.
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You said that no prominent Democrats condemned the actions in the video.
I asked if you had done any research into the video proving your assertion, which you haven’t done.
I neither condemned or applauded the video, I questioned marke and then you about your comments on the video. As I am a decent person, of course I personally condemn that behavior. Violence or threats of violence to further a political cause is unacceptable.
You are entitled to believe and prognosticate about possible events, but that is only your opinion.
Oh, and I’m not a Democrat or liberal.
 
Middle_Ground said:
1. Incorrect Democrats don't want all people in the country illegally to have legal status...that's what the fear mongers say we want in order to get votes. They believe it's a zero sum game get rid of them all by force or welcome them all. There is no in between with some Republicans.

2. False again see number 1

3. False again...we just don't see it as an disesase carrying invasion. Most Democrats see it as a group of people from gang torn unstable countries announcing themselves as asylum seekers, not sneaking, not criminals but announced themselves as people that want a better life and we say give them their day in court.

4. false again no one is defending illegals what we are fighting is draconian policies we don't agree with...there's a difference.

5. Yes Democrats say get rid of ICE, not immigration controls. ICE is a division of another agency, that's a division of another agency, that's led by another agency. Can we cut some beurocracy?

I know it's hard.... the right wing propaganda machine is very good at telling people what Democrats want.
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From what I have seen on the news and on this site, what I said is correct.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
The Democratic Party's platform is publicly available and it has never had open borders or uncontrolled immigration in it. The right fantasizes up these ridiculous strawmen with no regard as to what the Democrats actually say or support because it's easier to argue against an imagined extremist. Now you're disappointed they're not adhering to your misrepresentation of their beliefs.

Educate yourself about what the Democrats actually support and attack that instead of making up this nonsense. Turn off the caps lock and make reasoned arguments, you're being more whiney and pathetic than usual.
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What bull****.


The NUMBER #2 leader of the DNC walks around with ab OPEN BORDERS T-SHIRT ON....actions speak louder than words.


Spare us the desperate, attempted "revisionist" nonsense.


Do you really think Americans are STUPID ENOUGH to BUY THE CURRENT LIE-O-CRAT NONSENSE, that they are glad to work with Pres.Trump, etc.?


GET EFFIN' REAL....
 
Irwin Corey said:
No, what I'd like to know is do you just sit back in your recliner at night and dream up new ways to slander over half of your fellow American(s)? That post is living breathing paranoia; nothing could be further from the truth.
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Half of my fellow Americans aren't running for office, and SUDDENLY LYING ABOUT THEMSELVES.
 
markjs said:
If there's anything Grok is completely against, it's learning and knowledge. He's only into pure fear based "OMG the evil libruls" low and no fact conservative garbage. Yeah Grok is anti fact, so "educating himself" not even gonna happen.:lamo
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Yeah...calling the OBVIOUS DISENGENUOUS BULL**** the Lie-o-crats suddenly started this week , is "anti-knowledge."

We've LEARNED that there is NO LIMIT to WHAT THE LIE-O-CRATS WILL TRY TO GET ELECTED....


Der...
 
RaleBulgarian said:
You said that no prominent Democrats condemned the actions in the video.
I asked if you had done any research into the video proving your assertion, which you haven’t done.
I neither condemned or applauded the video, I questioned marke and then you about your comments on the video. As I am a decent person, of course I personally condemn that behavior. Violence or threats of violence to further a political cause is unacceptable.
You are entitled to believe and prognosticate about possible events, but that is only your opinion.
Oh, and I’m not a Democrat or liberal.
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So you can point to your posts around that time condemning that? I don't know you so I don't know what you did or said or whatever and draw no inferences about that.

Actually I did do some cursory research checking to see who was covering it on that very thing when it happened and in the days following. And look at you and those in the parrot gallery using every post to accuse or attack me either blatantly or by inference instead of rebutting what I have posted. That is also something that a number of people do regardless of their ideology or politics, but it seems to be quite routine from the left.
 
Grokmaster said:
What bull****.


The NUMBER #2 leader of the DNC walks around with ab OPEN BORDERS T-SHIRT ON....actions speak louder than words.


Spare us the desperate, attempted "revisionist" nonsense.


Do you really think Americans are STUPID ENOUGH to BUY THE CURRENT LIE-O-CRAT NONSENSE, that they are glad to work with Pres.Trump, etc.?


GET EFFIN' REAL....
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The left is most assuredly for open borders. They can't wait to have our country flooded with 3rd worlders and our treasury emptied and we look like Venezuela. The left cannot be even trusted with being elected to dog catcher.
 
rickc said:
my god!

the republican propaganda machine is very effective.

and i thought the Russians were the great propagandist.
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Look! Another DP left post INCAPABLE OF REFUTING THE POINTS OF THE THREAD....
 
PeteEU said:
Starting to think that Grok is a Russian troll bot...

Sendt fra min SM-N9005 med Tapatalk
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As always, the DP LEFT CANNOT BEGIN TO REFUTE WHAT I POST, but merely try to attack me with their lameass silliness...
 
Perotista said:
I have notice this about the Democrats on illegal immigration.
1. Democrats want all illegals now in the country to achieve legal status. Even when they broke our laws to get here.
2. All illegals to have a path to citizenship.
3. That Democrats back the entry of this caravan to enter this country illegally, not to go through the proper procedure.
4. Democrats defend illegals at every opportunity.
5. Democrats have come out very vocal in favor of doing away with ICE and our immigration controls.
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1. Not true/correct.
2. Not true/correct.
3. Not true/correct.
4. Not true/correct.
5. Not true/correct.

Plenty of reason to believe many Dems/libs want to stop Trump from building a wall, reducing immigration numbers, deporting DACA enrollees, etc., however, your assertion exaggerates reality.
 
Here is the DNC's NUMBER #2 IN CHARGE.


ELLISON ISN'T JUST A WOMAN-BEATING, RACIST ISLAMIST ASSHOLE, HE'S AN UNABASHED OPEN BORDERS ADVOCATE:



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This is NOT some "RANDOM DNC REP" SOMEWHERE...THIS IS THE NUMBER TWO IN CHARGE, CHOSEN BY THE DNC...
 
Middle_Ground said:
1. Incorrect Democrats don't want all people in the country illegally to have legal status...that's what the fear mongers say we want in order to get votes. They believe it's a zero sum game get rid of them all by force or welcome them all. There is no in between with some Republicans.

2. False again see number 1

3. False again...we just don't see it as an disesase carrying invasion. Most Democrats see it as a group of people from gang torn unstable countries announcing themselves as asylum seekers, not sneaking, not criminals but announced themselves as people that want a better life and we say give them their day in court.

4. false again no one is defending illegals what we are fighting is draconian policies we don't agree with...there's a difference.

5. Yes Democrats say get rid of ICE, not immigration controls. ICE is a division of another agency, that's a division of another agency, that's led by another agency. Can we cut some beurocracy?

I know it's hard.... the right wing propaganda machine is very good at telling people what Democrats want.
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NUMBER TWO in the DNC:



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And now, the LIE-O-CRATS in RED STATES are squawking about "HOW MUHC THEY WORK WITH PRES.TRUMP"...etc.


NAUSEATING LIARS..all.
 
Greenbeard said:
Most folks on the right can't tell the difference between things like Customs and Border Protection and ICE, "stop putting brown kids in cages" and "let's have open borders," etc. Hence their wild flights of fancy.
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Tell that to the NUMBER TWO in charge of the DNC:



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These Democrats want to abolish ICE



Senators

Kirsten Gillibrand of New York

"I don't think ICE today is working as intended," Gillibrand said Thursday night on CNN's "Cuomo PrimeTime." "I believe that it has become a deportation force, and I think you should separate the criminal justice from the immigration issues."

Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

In a Facebook post on Saturday, Warren wrote, "The President's deeply immoral actions have made it obvious that we need to rebuild our immigration system from top to bottom, starting by replacing ICE with something that reflects our values," a line that mirrored her statements in a speech at a protest in Boston.


House members

Mark Pocan of Wisconsin

"From conducting raids at garden centers, and meatpacking plants, to breaking up families at churches and schools, ICE is tearing apart families and ripping the moral fabric of our nation," he said in a statement.

Pramila Jayapal of Washington

"We need to set up a commission that looks at the alternatives to ICE and really starts to understand how do we have these functions in a way that is accountable, transparent and humane," Jayapal told The Hill.

Earl Blumenauer of Oregon

"We should be prioritizing the protection of families and our borders in a humane and thoughtful way. People should be treated with compassion and respect. ICE is simply not doing that," Blumenauer said in a statement. "Trump and his administration have made the agency so toxic that it's time to abolish ICE, and start over."

Jim McGovern of Massachusetts

"We need to start a fresh conversation. If there are elements that work, we can maintain and strengthen those aspects. Otherwise, we need to thoroughly reevaluate and re-think immigration enforcement," he said in a post to his website.

Rep. Nydia Velázquez of New York

"While eliminating ICE would be an important step, it alone is not enough to halt Donald Trump's deportation machine," she said in a statement. "This Administration is attacking immigrants on a multitude of fronts and we must resist on all of them. That includes reuniting and releasing families separated at the border, ending family detention and passing protections for Dreamers and TPS recipients."

Raul Grijalva of Arizona

Adriano Espaillat of New York


Others

New York Mayor Bill de Blasio

He told WNYC's Brian Lehrer, "ICE's time has come and gone."

Democratic congressional nominee Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez



https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/02/politics/abolish-ice-democrats-list/index.html
 
Grokmaster said:
As it becomes more and more obvious that American DO NOT LOOK FAVORABLY upon the TRUMP-HATING,PRO-IRAN, RAISE TAXES, PRO-ILLEGALS, ELIMINATE ICE, OPEN BORDERS Democrats, the Lie-o-crats have, suddenly become "STRONG BORDER", "VOTED WITH TRUMP MOST OF THE TIME" ; the LYINGASSES, pretending to be Republicans.

They are all trying the Lamb Lie tactic, as it worked in Pennsylvania, and they are TERRIFIED of the voters seeing who they REALLY ARE.


Notice that Republicans ARE NOT RUUNNING AROUND PPRETENDING TO BE "MORE LEFTIST" than they are.


That tells you all you need to know...
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Conservatives need to be farther right than the far right. They need to be to the right of fascism. Otherwise they're dirty rotten low down commies!


YEEHAW!!!!
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Link to the part of their platform that says open borders. It's a stupid strawman invented by people who can't argue the facts.
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Screw what the Lie-O-Crats SAY...they are LIARS.


See what they DO:


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