BlueElk
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From what I've read their plan was and has always been to seek asylum and not just push through the border. I know that goes against the invading hoard narrative, but it seems to be the more logical thought.
You think they'd be seeking asylum if we had nobody down on the border? No, they'd be trying to get in any way they could. If they go through the process of seeking asylum it's because we have forced them to.
You failed to answer the question I first asked you. Please do so and I will be happy to answer a question you wish to post to me.
Cleveland has enough issues without you adding to them.
The answer is yes. Proportional response" has a meaning for me.
What I would bet on what you consider a proper proportional response and mine would not be the same.
Your turn.
I do NOT consider firing guns into a crowd of people as a proportional response to some individuals in that crowd throwing stones. Do you?
You asked how I would handle rock throwing at the border?
I must admit I am NOT an expert on such matters and know precious little about it. I would suspect most people outside of that line of work can claim any expertise.
I would hazard a guess that the thing to do is protect your troops with helmets and visors and shields as a starter and attempt to create a buffer between the crowd and the guards that itself serves as protection. I would begin there.
You're not supporting separating families and shooting people because you're terrified of a small addition to the workforce.
Simple, stay in your own country and there is no risk of your family being separated.
Yes, and that's why the "troops" are just a political stunt. sending more immigration judges and lawyers down there would be the more practical solution. all though that would not get the fear mongering up among the conservative base.
I am sure the illegal alien ass kissers will claim that people attempting to come into our country illegally shouldn't be shot at for throwing rocks at our troops and border guards.
There are 600,000 cases in the backlog. At 100 cases per day, that's over 16 years and that assumes no new cases. This is why we can't allow huge groups to show up here and demand asylum. Plus few of these people are true asylum seekers. Needing work does not qualify for asylum and that's what most of these people say when interviewed. They want work.
So why then the political stunt?
How about if you point guns at police or military personnel?
One should ask, why is the group throwing rocks at the armed police/military? Is it to force them to move and give ground, to hurt and intimidate the people in the way of them crossing the border?
imo, tear gas should be used to disperse the crowd. Then maybe rubber bullets/beam bags. If that does not discourage the crowd to keep back, then lethal force can be used with the next rock that hits one of the law enforcement/military personnel.
Convince me that a rock thrower is doing it with no intent to injury someone.