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Twitter Under Fire For MAGA Bomber Cesar Sayok's account

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CNN found more than 240 threats at 50 different people, news organizations, reporters, and celebrities and two reports against him and the social media giant still kept his page active:

A CNN KFile analysis of thousands of tweets sent from Sayoc's accounts found the 56-year-old shared conspiracy theories, false news articles, and graphic memes for years. Some of his tweets appeared to be directly parroting President Trump.
He tweeted about a wide array of baseless conspiracy theories, including "Pizzagate;" "chemtrails;" birtherism, and a number of posts regarding billionaire and liberal philanthropist George Soros.

The radicalization of an alleged domestic terrorist
 
Social media has been out of control since it began back in the 80's. It's a wild frontier still after all these years, it will take serious catastrophes to get up the political will, likely from Democrats, to reign them in. You'd think the Cambridge Analytica thing might have woken some people up, but because FB owns their account, they can't really leave and switch to a different platform. Oops!

Selling your personal data to digital companies is one of the big jokes of the digital age. The only way countries have avoided this and the corresponding GOVERNMENT access to all your personal information that follows from it, is to create laws that protect your privacy. A number of European countries have it, but in the U.S., we're just too distracted to care.

Makes you wonder why more people don't report that stuff.
 
Social media has been out of control since it began back in the 80's. It's a wild frontier still after all these years, it will take serious catastrophes to get up the political will, likely from Democrats, to reign them in. You'd think the Cambridge Analytica thing might have woken some people up, but because FB owns their account, they can't really leave and switch to a different platform. Oops!

Selling your personal data to digital companies is one of the big jokes of the digital age. The only way countries have avoided this and the corresponding GOVERNMENT access to all your personal information that follows from it, is to create laws that protect your privacy. A number of European countries have it, but in the U.S., we're just too distracted to care.

Makes you wonder why more people don't report that stuff.

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Wut? I remember the '80s quite well, or at least I think I do. The only social media I remember was the telephone and stationery. I suppose one could include television and movies....radio too if one was the "tenth caller." (I never was. All I ever got a busy signal when I called radio stations. LOL)
 
A number of European countries have it, but in the U.S., we're just too distracted to care.

Actually, whenever a law tries to protect data. Millennial groups go crazy lobby billionaire CEOs of internet companies and shut them down. Remember PIPA?
 
Did anyone besides Ms. Ritchie report Sayoc to Twitter's "oversight" (I have no idea what it's actually called; I'm not on Twitter) unit?

Did Sayoc, in some way that'd be apparent to the object of the threat, threaten someone besides Ms. Ritchie?
  • I have to ask because I don't know if Twitter works somewhat like DP does. To wit, if one doesn't quote my post, I would most likely have no idea that some remarked to me, about me, or about something I posted. Surely just as I won't spend any energy perusing DP for references to me, I would think people don't scan Twitter looking for comments, plaudits or threats, about themselves.
 
Wut? I remember the '80s quite well, or at least I think I do. The only social media I remember was the telephone and stationery. I suppose one could include television and movies....radio too if one was the "tenth caller." (I never was. All I ever got a busy signal when I called radio stations. LOL)

You didn't have a 300 baud modem? That was a glorious time. Before that was the phone you put in some holder...that was a bit before my time.

It started with BBS's for me, they looked like this forum but pure text and obviously far more simple. You hit hotkeys to change screens, no mouse. The connection was so slow, the text scrolled across the screen in real-time as it loaded.

I can remember a girl named JessicaRabbit, who was the girlfriend of the Sysop. And another infamous guy, the bmxer (bmx bikes I assume). You could change your text colors if you knew the codes, fancy stuff. Some of them were phreakers and hackers, and they ended up getting busted I believe in what was later known to be operation Sundevil. The story of what I remember was that they were in a dorm at LSU doing all of this stuff. When the cops (Secret Service I think was involved, no kidding), BMXer was off getting pizza, so when he comes back, he freaks out and is telling us on the BBS what went down. I was in middle school, they were in college, I was just a fly on the wall. That's the only handles I remember..I could probably recognize more if I saw them.

Two major things went on there. First, computer games were "cracked" (the copy protection removed with various utilities or by coders), and they would but their "groups" name, logo, and cracker songs, on as the game intro. They were very valuable if they were negative day warez, that was games cracked before they actually went on sale mass market. You got credits for uploading cracked games, based on their age, and you often got a multiplier on your uploads for downloads. So if you uploaded 1K credits worth, it's x10 and you get 10K download credits. Because they were all over the country, you needed to call long distance, so they hacked credit card numbers for that.

But shortly after that, my red-neck cajun neighbor who was also paradoxically an early adopted of tech, got some actual software called People Connection I believe. It was like an early AOL type thing. We'd go to chat rooms and talk to people from all over, set up our little profile.

Anyway, good times, the golden age for sure. And once web-pages were common, the idea that a company would allow you to make a little personal web-page on their site and they own all the data, sounded stupid to me. The tech was there since way back. The business model was new. And I'd personally never have imagined people would establish their PERSONAL "website" on some corporate server that gives that corporation full and complete access and ownership to everything the put on their, and all of their data. I was not a social media visionary that's for sure, just an early adopter of the tech.
 
Actually, whenever a law tries to protect data. Millennial groups go crazy lobby billionaire CEOs of internet companies and shut them down. Remember PIPA?

Yeah, our population was corrupted early on from it...it's the price we pay for reactive protection vs proactive protections.
part of me thinks people get what the deserve...but really, I'd prefer a more sensible community that wasn't this stupid and gullible and so easily corrupted.
Look at the nutters defending assault rifles for everyone...but their personal data (far more valuable both in terms of power over them, and in terms of abuse in this day and age), not a peep.
 
You didn't have a 300 baud modem? That was a glorious time. Before that was the phone you put in some holder...that was a bit before my time.

It started with BBS's for me, they looked like this forum but pure text and obviously far more simple. You hit hotkeys to change screens, no mouse. The connection was so slow, the text scrolled across the screen in real-time as it loaded.

I can remember a girl named JessicaRabbit, who was the girlfriend of the Sysop. And another infamous guy, the bmxer (bmx bikes I assume). You could change your text colors if you knew the codes, fancy stuff. Some of them were phreakers and hackers, and they ended up getting busted I believe in what was later known to be operation Sundevil. The story of what I remember was that they were in a dorm at LSU doing all of this stuff. When the cops (Secret Service I think was involved, no kidding), BMXer was off getting pizza, so when he comes back, he freaks out and is telling us on the BBS what went down. I was in middle school, they were in college, I was just a fly on the wall. That's the only handles I remember..I could probably recognize more if I saw them.

Two major things went on there. First, computer games were "cracked" (the copy protection removed with various utilities or by coders), and they would but their "groups" name, logo, and cracker songs, on as the game intro. They were very valuable if they were negative day warez, that was games cracked before they actually went on sale mass market. You got credits for uploading cracked games, based on their age, and you often got a multiplier on your uploads for downloads. So if you uploaded 1K credits worth, it's x10 and you get 10K download credits. Because they were all over the country, you needed to call long distance, so they hacked credit card numbers for that.

But shortly after that, my red-neck cajun neighbor who was also paradoxically an early adopted of tech, got some actual software called People Connection I believe. It was like an early AOL type thing. We'd go to chat rooms and talk to people from all over, set up our little profile.

Anyway, good times, the golden age for sure. And once web-pages were common, the idea that a company would allow you to make a little personal web-page on their site and they own all the data, sounded stupid to me. The tech was there since way back. The business model was new. And I'd personally never have imagined people would establish their PERSONAL "website" on some corporate server that gives that corporation full and complete access and ownership to everything the put on their, and all of their data. I was not a social media visionary that's for sure, just an early adopter of the tech.

Oh, yes, now I know what you're talking about....And I do indeed recall the '80s dial-up days. and I did AOL chat rooms and occasionally, IIRC, I perused something called "billboards"(?) and on rare occasions meddled with another "gizmo" called, I think, IRC. I wasn't chatting with strangers though, and I really didn't use it all that much, maybe once or twice every couple weeks. In fact, aside from getting into a chat with friends I already'd made, I found the whole chat thing rather ridiculous...I was then preoccupied with renovating my fixer-upper house, so a good share of my free time went to doing "this or that" that I could figure out how to do so I wouldn't have to pay someone else to do it.
 
Yeah, our population was corrupted early on from it...it's the price we pay for reactive protection vs proactive protections.
part of me thinks people get what the deserve...but really, I'd prefer a more sensible community that wasn't this stupid and gullible and so easily corrupted.
Look at the nutters defending assault rifles for everyone...but their personal data (far more valuable both in terms of power over them, and in terms of abuse in this day and age), not a peep.

What's funny is that the left attacks and fear mongers any new laws that attack internet companies like Google, YouTube, and apps. At least that's what they do in the US. Then, they get the libertarians on board so that they can construe the freedom of speech and free market arguments. In a way it's mob-rule democracy at work. Yet they all support Net Neutrality, (Huge Federal oversights) IMO that don't work too well, hook, line, and sinker. This is done with almost no rebuttals allowed. Being against PIPA and for NN makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
 
What's funny is that the left attacks and fear mongers any new laws that attack internet companies like Google, YouTube, and apps. At least that's what they do in the US. Then, they get the libertarians on board so that they can construe the freedom of speech and free market arguments. In a way it's mob-rule democracy at work. Yet they all support Net Neutrality, (Huge Federal oversights) IMO that don't work too well, hook, line, and sinker. This is done with almost no rebuttals allowed. Being against PIPA and for NN makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Yeah, the idea that constraining corporations violating our privacy somehow makes the internet no longer a largely free/open space...mind-boggling.
Right now the internet is like a cesspool and you go in without any protection.
Proper privacy laws would keep the cesspool, you'd just go in with a hazmat suit.

;)

I might consider leasing my real-time data to FB if I had complete control over clawing it back, and stopping it, as I see fit. Let me control my data, rather than giving it away for free to FB, madness.
 
Proper privacy laws would keep the cesspool, you'd just go in with a hazmat suit.
;)

You think the debate over the second amendment is bad? No one has the guts to touch freedom of speech. At least with Gab, the site owners acted like complete idiots and are now a footnote in history. They couldn't even lobby Trump who will listen to any conspiracy theory on the face of the earth.
 
I’ll say it. I’m opposed to holding online platforms legally responsible for things said on those platforms.
 
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