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Obama Vrs Trump (Who is the bigger liar)

Vern said:
Oh trouble, I wish you could read your own posts. Here you pull out the ole conservative “lying involves intent” narrative.



We are in a thread where you call President Obama a liar for Susan Rice reading exactly what the CIA gave her. Forget the numerous qualifiers in the memo. Forget how Bush lied about WMDs for over a year. Forget the tortured narrative where you hold President Obama responsible for the imaginary lies from the CIA. Tell us how you know what is in President Obama’s mind. Yea, weren’t you just patting yourself on the back for not being “that arrogant”? Well you clearly are “that hypocritical”. Oh and trouble, before you cowardly cut and run again, here’s you telling everybody how you courageously stand your ground and "continue your argument".



Seems to be just more hypocrisy from you.
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R.I.F.

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Sand Castle said:
So is the point of your post to prove former President Obama who is retired, and out of office, is the bigger liar for the history books? Because the American citizens dealing with present day reality will not benefit from your accusations Obama lying even if true, but can be presently harmed by Trump's lies.
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No not at all. I have no issue with criticizing the current administration for being deceptive. However I am not gonna get worked up over things this administration is doing when it comes from people who were more than happy to turn a blind eye to it when it was happening by an administration they liked. Its partisan and insincere.

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trouble13 said:
R.I.F.

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oh trouble, I really didn't expect such a cowardly dodge from you. I expected a dodge just not that cowardly. Especially considering you just bragged about our "courage". Anyhoo, if you have a point, show the courage you bragged about and make it. I had no problem showing you called President Obama a liar for a statement from the CIA but hilariously claim you're not "that arrogant" to know what is in someone's mind.

trouble13 said:
I dont know if he lied or not. Lying involves intent. I dont pretend to be able to read peoples minds. I am not that arrogant.
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Vern said:
oh trouble, I really didn't expect such a cowardly dodge from you. I expected a dodge just not that cowardly. Especially considering you just bragged about our "courage". Anyhoo, if you have a point, show the courage you bragged about and make it. I had no problem showing you called President Obama a liar for a statement from the CIA but hilariously claim you're not "that arrogant" to know what is in someone's mind.
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Oh vern, I really didnt expect much of an argument from you and reliably you didnt let me down. You dont have an argument of substance. Your feeble personal attacks violate the TOS but they are so weak I'd feel petty reporting them.

You should maybe seek out help from an adult to help you form a real rebuttal

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trouble13 said:
Oh vern, I really didnt expect much of an argument from you and reliably you didnt let me down. You dont have an argument of substance. Your feeble personal attacks violate the TOS but they are so weak I'd feel petty reporting them.

You should maybe seek out help from an adult to help you form a real rebuttal

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trouble, please stop dishonestly and cowardly avoiding my point. We are in a thread where you call President Obama a liar because Susan Rice read incorrect CIA talking points. I've posted you hilariously whining that "lying requires intent". You cant address my posts so you have to whine about me. so trouble, show some integrity, read your OP and read this post. Then please respond to my posts in an honest and intelligent fashion.

trouble13 said:
I dont know if he lied or not. Lying involves intent. I dont pretend to be able to read peoples minds. I am not that arrogant.
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