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There is a nobility in Compassion

Hawkeye10 said:
There is nobility in helping those around us.

Sometimes "helping" people makes them weaker.

Helping is not doing for others, it is facilitating them getting better, it is pushing and pulling them, building strength and abilities.

The fact that so few people can be found anymore who understand such basics is the fault of Victim Culture and the failed education system.










VICTIM CULTURE MUST DIE!







Trump gets it.
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But Trumpism is based on victimization.

Don't you feel very hypocritical?
 
noonereal said:
But Trumpism is based on victimization.

Don't you feel very hypocritical?
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No, Trumpism is based upon the idea that we need to be the best that we can be, and that Victim Culture is a proven failure, because it has made us worse.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
No, Trumpism is based upon the idea that we need to be the best that we can be, and that Victim Culture is a proven failure, because it has made us worse.
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You better tell you leader because he works on fear and victimization.
 
Yes, there is nobility in compassion.
I don't believe there is also a mandate for sacrificing your own for the sake of compassion.
I also don't believe there is a mandate for showing compassion to someone unlikely to show compassion back to you.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
No, Trumpism is based upon the idea that we need to be the best that we can be, and that Victim Culture is a proven failure, because it has made us worse.
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Hard work, self sustaining, America first, less government, secure borders etc etc etc.
The antithesis of victim culture.
 
MrWonka said:
Garbage nonsense used to justify cruelty and abuse.


Nope, that's what liberals do. People like yourself choose not to understand it because you want to justify your greed.


Case in point. Your attacks on the education system just prove that you're not interested in facilitating anyone getting better. Instead, you resent those who better themselves through education because they understand things on a higher level and you're scared they'll look down on you.


The 11 people murdered this weekend in Pittsburg were victims of the type of scum that loves Trump. It is the victim culture of Trump supporters who try to turn that horrific act around on the media and the Jews themselves as if Republicans are the victims because these disgusting tragedies carried out by their supporters are hurting their midterm chances.
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Whoever thought an orange man would cause such racial divides?
 
Acadia said:
Victim culture and its toxic "intersectionality".
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:2brickwal



I am saddened beyond belief that America has declined this much over my lifetime. As me and my friends played up and down Kentucky Dr during the late 1960's with almost no parental supervision testing ourselves and testing each other and getting better as we wondered if we wanted to live on Mars when we grew up I dont think any of us had any inkling that we were about to be visited by Victim Culture, and that it would so completely wreck us.

I am heart broken.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
How did you come to that conclusion?


Exactly, because every act of compassion ends up with the compassionate person/s being stabbed.
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Personal observation

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Vox said:
That just doesn't make any sense at all.

Try again.
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So do you just not know what the word compassion means? How exactly am I supposed to show pity on someone that is in a position of strength over me? Pity, Compassion, Empathy, and Forgiveness are all things that a person in a position of strength shows to a person who is in a position of relative weakness. It doesn't work the other way around.

For example, you not being able to grasp basic concepts like compassion, pity and forgiveness make me feel bad for you. Your ignorance makes you deserving of pity and compassion. If you acknowledge this I would forgive you, but since you refuse to acknowledge this and will instead attack me for saying it as if you're somehow the intelligent one in this conversation it really doesn't make sense for me to show you compassion. Your arrogance makes it impossible for me to feel bad for you. When you can't acknowledge your ignorance it becomes a danger to myself and others. I, therefore, cannot show you pity nor compassion until I have confidence it's under control and harmless.
 
MrWonka said:
So do you just not know what the word compassion means? How exactly am I supposed to show pity on someone that is in a position of strength over me? Pity, Compassion, Empathy, and Forgiveness are all things that a person in a position of strength shows to a person who is in a position of relative weakness. It doesn't work the other way around.

For example, you not being able to grasp basic concepts like compassion, pity and forgiveness make me feel bad for you. Your ignorance makes you deserving of pity and compassion. If you acknowledge this I would forgive you, but since you refuse to acknowledge this and will instead attack me for saying it as if you're somehow the intelligent one in this conversation it really doesn't make sense for me to show you compassion. Your arrogance makes it impossible for me to feel bad for you. When you can't acknowledge your ignorance it becomes a danger to myself and others. I, therefore, cannot show you pity nor compassion until I have confidence it's under control and harmless.
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:cuckoo:
 
MrWonka said:
Intolerance is like any other weapon. If you let Trump and his disgusting supporters get away with using it you leave liberals no choice, but to weald in self-defense.
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That is just a poor excuse to justify your own lack of civility.
 
Acadia said:
Hard work, self-sustaining, America first, less government, secure borders etc etc etc.
The antithesis of victim culture.
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I hope this is a joke. The belief that America needs to be put first, comes from the belief that you've been victimized and had your interests put last. The belief that we need less government stems from the idea that the government is oppressing you and that you are victims of it. The belief that you need secure borders comes from the belief that you're the victim of invaders from outside. Your nonsense about hard work and self-sustainment stems from the belief that lazy people are victimizing you through taxation.

You are the one guilty of playing the victim. You attack real victims who actually need help in order to justify the cruel and disgusting way you've treated them.
 
Acadia said:
:cuckoo:
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Precisely. You can't even begin to rebut what I just said let alone grasp it. Yet rather than acknowledge your fragility and try to learn you attack and posture to convince yourself that you're the superior one. You're like an alcoholic. I want to feel bad for you, but until you acknowledge the problem you have and show an honest desire to get better you're a danger to yourself and others.
 
MrWonka said:
Precisely. You can't even begin to rebut what I just said let alone grasp it. Yet rather than acknowledge your fragility and try to learn you attack and posture to convince yourself that you're the superior one. You're like an alcoholic. I want to feel bad for you, but until you acknowledge the problem you have and show an honest desire to get better you're a danger to yourself and others.
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muh orange man bad
Derp.
 
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MrWonka said:
Exactly what the British said about the colonists who carried out the Boston Tea Party.
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The British blame Trump for the actions of the colonists?
The British used the tea party to justify their bad actions?
The colonists used the Kings bad behaviour to justify their actions?
white people from Mass have been dressing up and pretending to be Indians long before Elizabeth Warren?


What point did you try and make?
 
RaleBulgarian said:
How did you come to that conclusion?


Exactly, because every act of compassion ends up with the compassionate person/s being stabbed.
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Blind compassion is not compassion at all. It is stupidity and a curious form of arrogance for which the person believes their moral superiority is a protection and power.
 
MrWonka said:
I hope this is a joke. The belief that America needs to be put first, comes from the belief that you've been victimized and had your interests put last. The belief that we need less government stems from the idea that the government is oppressing you and that you are victims of it. The belief that you need secure borders comes from the belief that you're the victim of invaders from outside. Your nonsense about hard work and self-sustainment stems from the belief that lazy people are victimizing you through taxation.

You are the one guilty of playing the victim. You attack real victims who actually need help in order to justify the cruel and disgusting way you've treated them.
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Tell us all, exactly, how Acadia has mistreated anyone - since that is your accusation against him.
 
joko104 said:
Tell us all, exactly, how Acadia has mistreated anyone - since that is your accusation against him.
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That is not my accusation. My accusation is that he and Trump supporters are playing the victims and acting as if someone is mistreating them. Meanwhile, it is Donald Trump's supporters who are mailing bombs to liberals and shooting up Synagogues. Trump then has the audacity to verbally attack the people who were violently attacked by his own supporters and try to blame the victims for the tragedies that his rabid wake job followers have inflicted on him.

Each of the things he listed is a flawless example of him trying to play the victim. What he personally may have done to hurt others is hard to know, but he clearly has no sympathy for those who are truly struggling and wants to make himself out to be the victim while complaining about victim culture.
 
MrWonka said:
This one.


I truly hope that wasn't a hard thing for you to understand. If so then you have my pity.
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I understand your point and disagree.

Each of us is responsible for and accountable for our own actions not other people.
 
MrWonka said:
So do you just not know what the word compassion means? How exactly am I supposed to show pity on someone that is in a position of strength over me? Pity, Compassion, Empathy, and Forgiveness are all things that a person in a position of strength shows to a person who is in a position of relative weakness. It doesn't work the other way around.

For example, you not being able to grasp basic concepts like compassion, pity and forgiveness make me feel bad for you. Your ignorance makes you deserving of pity and compassion. If you acknowledge this I would forgive you, but since you refuse to acknowledge this and will instead attack me for saying it as if you're somehow the intelligent one in this conversation it really doesn't make sense for me to show you compassion. Your arrogance makes it impossible for me to feel bad for you. When you can't acknowledge your ignorance it becomes a danger to myself and others. I, therefore, cannot show you pity nor compassion until I have confidence it's under control and harmless.
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What an absurd, arrogant message. Your message does not degrade him. It is a self degradation.
 
joko104 said:
Blind compassion is not compassion at all.
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The important question is when in doubt is it better to show compassion for someone who doesn't deserve it, or better to reject compassion for those who do? Would you rather provide food for a family too lazy to work, or let a legitimately starving family go hungry? Would you rather risk deporting innocent people desperately trying to escape oppression and send them back to their home country to die, or would you rather risk letting a handful of people playing the victim card have access to the American dream? Would you rather risk a few lazy drugies taking advantage of free healthcare or would you rather risk innocent poor people dying because they can't afford to go to the doctor?

Would you rather risk losing a few votes from white supremacists, Nazis, and generally deplorable bigots by forcefully denouncing violence and toning down your hateful rhetoric or would you rather risk the lives of innocent Jews, journalists, gays, Muslims, Atheists, Latinos, and African Americans by stoking anger fear among your bigotted base?
 
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