Anyone who declares the press "the enemy of the people" is the enemy of the people

AlphaOmega said:

Cnn whitened the bombers picture. I noticed it immediately when they showed it. CNN should have its license revoked. Do you deny they did this?

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Debunked

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-cnn-alter-esteban-santiagos-photograph/


Fox wrote Avenatti as "creepy porn lawyer" in the title below his image in an interview on Fox. This is a fact, as I witnessed it.

Legitimate news orgs do not do that, (CNN nor MSNBC would ever do this ) so , should they have their license removed?

Casca XV said:

A free honest press is essential to any Republic or Democracy.

A highly dishonest press who colludes with mega corporations to silence it's competitors is an "Enemy of the People." (CNN with Google removing several online independent news commentators).

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Evidence please

President Trump calling out the lies if Corporate MSM is not comparable to Castor murdering reporters he did not like

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Who is "Castor" ? TRUMP IS THE LIAR, incessant liar. MSM is far more truthful than he is.

or Obama using the power of the Federal Government to persecute Journalist he considered opposition.

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Evidence please.


There is NOTHING in 1A about "honesty". The whole point is not to arbit who has a legitimate point of view, to allow ALL points of view to flourish, WHETHER YOU LIKE THE POINT OF VIEW OR NOT. A free society MUST have a free and vigorous press. Your opinion of the press is IRRELEVANT.

Honesty is subjective. In my view, CNN and MSNBC are far more honest than Fox, yet I do not call Fox the "enemy of the people".

OscarLevant said:

Evidence please

Who is "Castor" ? TRUMP IS THE LIAR, incessant liar. MSM is far more truthful than he is.


Evidence please.


There is NOTHING in 1A about "honesty". The whole point is not to arbit who has a legitimate point of view, to allow ALL points of view to flourish, WHETHER YOU LIKE THE POINT OF VIEW OR NOT. A free society MUST have a free and vigorous press. Your opinion of the press is IRRELEVANT.

Honesty is subjective. In my view, CNN and MSNBC are far more honest than Fox, yet I do not call Fox the "enemy of the people".

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James Rosen describes being investigated by Obama admin | On Air Videos | Fox News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...ED2AAE7ADC97A2BC467EED2AAE7ADC97A2B&FORM=VIRE

https://theblacksphere.net/2017/02/media-silence-obama-stunning-record-prosecution-journalists/

evidence above

Oh **** off, CNN and MSNBC are not only less honest than FOX they are less honest than Infowars.

OscarLevant said:

Debunked

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-cnn-alter-esteban-santiagos-photograph/


Fox wrote Avenatti as "creepy porn lawyer" in the title below his image in an interview on Fox. This is a fact, as I witnessed it.

Legitimate news orgs do not do that, (CNN nor MSNBC would ever do this ) so , should they have their license removed?

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Debunked my ass, I saw it with my own eyes when they broadcast it. And avenatti IS a creepy porn lawyer. Hes creepy and ...well hes a creepy porn lawyer.

Sweden said:

Thanks - I've looked up Ulfkotte on Wikipedia. Iäm unsure about all his views but he is surely right to warn about the Islamisation of Europe. Latest step: yesterday the misnamed European Court of Human Rights now say that it is 'illegal' to point out that Mohammad was a paedophile. Even though it is recorded in the hadith that at the age of 53 he married a girl aged 6 and consumated this marriage when she was 9. I repeat this information is recorded in Islamic holy texts and is beyond dispute.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/should-it-be-illegal-to-insult-mohammed/

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The more important message from Udo, and likely the reason for his early demise, was he blatantly exposed the role of the CIA in controlling and influencing the European media.

Thoreau72 said:

The more important message from Udo, and likely the reason for his early demise, was he blatantly exposed the role of the CIA in controlling and influencing the European media.

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Wow! When was that and why haven't the Euros complained?

I think contemporary MSM deserves the "enemy of the people" moniker. Many are controlled by just a few owners. Few have investigative reporters and get their news from gov't, military, tnink tank (politicized), Defense Departments, Pentagon, Intelligence Agencies, etc. All biased sources. They are more about maintaining a steady controlling agenda than truth or simple objectivity. If we don't know the truth, and most don't, it is very difficult to achieve a realistic perspective. Comforting, feel good agendas that mesmerize and make docile citizens that are well meaning individuals is the status quo. When war is a major business, then killiing rephrased to sound palatable, even blessed, righteous, or for the greater good. Who's good is that? Would that be Lockheed, BAE, or one of the other Big 10 war businesses? Famine and starvation in Yemen? Who gives a damn. The Scumbag Saudis need that littly Nation to control the Persian Gulf and keep control of the OIL flow. Screw a bunch of starvin' women and children, eh? We are on the Scumbags side because they are very good customers. The CIA's Color Revolutions had succes in Ukraine and created death and destruction, in Syria they lost the election and created death and destruction and in Libya they killed the leader of the most successful gov't in Africa and created lots of death and destruction. Gosh, but some of that "News" doesn't sound comforting or feel good. Oh, I know, don't read it. That'll cure the problem just like an ostrich except the reader uses their rectum instead of the ground. We be good guys because we don't know what's going on and we don't want to know, eh?
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701stMI said:

Had to look this up.

Looks like he pretty specifically defined certain organizations in a tweet in February. Is this the quote to which you're referring, OP?

That tweet certainly doesn't back up what you claim.

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SIAP. What? Are you claiming the OP is fake news? Is the OP an enemy of the people, too?

OscarLevant said:

Anyone who declares the press "the enemy of the people" is the enemy of the people, as are anyone who supports and votes for such a person.


The ONLY thing standing between tyranny and freedom of the people is the free press.

Doesn't matter if the press says things you or the president doesn't like.

The statement is still true. It is the ONLY thing with sufficient impact to put a check on encroaching tyranny ( which can be argued is occurring now )

Declaring that the press is the enemy of the people is equal to promoting tyranny, for without a free press, tyranny would be on fertile soil to grow exponentially.

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The only people using that broad brush is the press themselves. You probably already knew that.

veritas1 said:

I have no desire to dominate anything. I just want liberals out of my face with their preachy, moralizing BS and endless need to tell others how to live and what is right.

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It sounds more like you're talking about right-wing Christo-fascists than liberals? Good point.

Oh, and you still haven't grasped what fascism really is. Fascists forcibly suppress their opposition yet I see liberals all the time and everywhere, in the streets and on TV flapping their gums saying stupid crap no rational person would believe for a second. If we really had fascism here, liberals would no longer be an issue.

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Well, we're not an issue when we can have more voters and still lose the election. If that doesn't tell you something, I don't know what does.

OscarLevant said:

Anyone who declares the press "the enemy of the people" is the enemy of the people, as are anyone who supports and votes for such a person.


The ONLY thing standing between tyranny and freedom of the people is the free press.

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A fair press is that bulwark you are seeking and I would suspect that a majority of Americans (really...everyone) feels the same. However, press we have may be free (they can print whatever they want) but far from fair.

Rising Sun said:

Wow! When was that and why haven't the Euros complained?

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Just guessing, about 2 years ago.

He is dead, at a young age. Not sure of the circumstances of his death, but he definitely made TPTB angry.

The Europeans are in thrall of their corrupted media just as much, or more, as the Americans.