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Article shows biggest problem in modern society. Tries to persuade agaginst critical thinking. LOL

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Here is a paper that attempts to persuade readers to stop practicing critical thinking and limit themselves to core Western analytical thinking.

"In other words, Enlightenment style critical thinking is an indispensable part of managing perceptual deviations from objective reality. Furthermore, it is crucial that science and the scientific method hold a privileged position with respect to all other ways of knowing."

Wow. They are literally privileging their own paradigm.

"The conventional understanding of what constitutes critical thinking is very close to the core paradigm upon which the STEM disciplines are founded."

That's the problem. STEM style "Critical Thinking" is merely analytical thinking, which is only a part of critical thinking. It can only process verifiable facts, not help to interpret them in a deeper manner. This is only taught in a liberal arts education.

"When the public and employers hear the expression ―critical thinking they assume those who invoke the term have this definition in mind and this is not the case with respect to postmodernist faculty.
Enlightenment critical thinking is based on positive science which is the study of what is, while humanities critical thinking is based on normative science which is the study of how things ought to be."

That's because employers and the public are stuck in an outdated mode of reasoning and it is hindering progress.

"The STEM disciplines are data driven; students master rigorous quantitative techniques used to process empirical data, evidence, and information. Formal analytical models reveal evidence can be consistent with multiple hypotheses, some of the hypotheses may be competing, some complementary, and others non-competing; which means teasing out real cause and effect is a formidable task. They also learn that conclusions must be tested against evidence"

Sometimes the "evidence" is irrelevant. Something may be a fact, except it's always only your opinion that it is relevant. Therefore, everything is only an opinion. Please read this article I linked. You will be shocked at the ignorance and prejudicial viewpoints.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1836582
 
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Moderate71 said:
Here is a paper that attempts to persuade readers to stop practicing critical thinking and limit themselves to core Western analytical thinking.

"In other words, Enlightenment style critical thinking is an indispensable part of managing perceptual deviations from objective reality. Furthermore, it is crucial that science the scientific method hold a privileged position with respect to all other ways of knowing."

Wow. They are literally privileging their own paradigm.

"The conventional understanding of what constitutes critical thinking is very close to the core paradigm upon which the STEM disciplines are founded."

That's the problem. STEM style "Critical Thinking" is analytical thinking, which is only a part of critical thinking. It can only process verifiable facts, not help to interpret them.

"When the public and employers hear the expression ―critical thinking they assume those who invoke the term have this definition in mind and this is not the case with respect to postmodernist faculty.
Enlightenment critical thinking is based on positive science which is the study of what is, while humanities critical thinking is based on normative science which is the study of how things ought to be."

That's because employers and the public are stuck in an outdated mode of reasoning and it is hindering progress.

"The STEM disciplines are data driven; students master rigorous quantitative techniques used to process empirical data, evidence, and information. Formal analytical models reveal evidence can be consistent with multiple hypotheses, some of the hypotheses may be competing, some complementary, and others non-competing; which means teasing out real cause and effect is a formidable task. They also learn that conclusions must be tested against evidence"

Sometimes the "evidence" is irrelevant. Something may be a fact, except it's always only your opinion that it is relevant. Therefore, everything is only an opinion. Please read this article I linked. You will be shocked at the ignorance and prejudicial viewpoints.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1836582
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Americans are spectacularly generally incapable of critical thinking now.

This I blame mostly on the Failed University.

We used to be better.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Americans are spectacularly generally incapable of critical thinking now.

This I blame mostly on the Failed University.

We used to be better.
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Just where have our universities failed us?
 
Floridafan said:
Once again, where have our universities failed us...........
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If you really want to know I have told you where to go.

I have done my part, now it is your turn to do yours.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
If you really want to know I have told you where to go.

I have done my part, now it is your turn to do yours.
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You are as ignorant as always ma'am
 
Floridafan said:
Just where have our universities failed us?
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Well just to name a few things:

--few universities are teaching solid history, Constitution, government, civics, economics, ethics, or critical thinking about anything as core curriculum these days.

--most universities consider diversity more important than education and do not even wince when such diversity lowers educational standards.

--universities that provide 'safe spaces' where students will not have to hear or be exposed to any thought or concept or idea they don't like are insulating students to the point that true education becomes impossible.

--universities that allow students to dictate who will and will not be allowed on campus or who can and cannot be heard are not only encouraging the worst kind of elitism and suppression of any diversity of thought, they are no longer educating at all but are dangerously indoctrinating at a very expensive cost.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well just to name a few things:

--few universities are teaching solid history, Constitution, government, civics, economics, ethics, or critical thinking about anything as core curriculum these days.

--most universities consider diversity more important than education and do not even wince when such diversity lowers educational standards.

--universities that provide 'safe spaces' where students will not have to hear or be exposed to any thought or concept or idea they don't like are insulating students to the point that true education becomes impossible.

--universities that allow students to dictate who will and will not be allowed on campus or who can and cannot be heard are not only encouraging the worst kind of elitism and suppression of any diversity of thought, they are no longer educating at all but are dangerously indoctrinating at a very expensive cost.
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Yep, but they sure are expensive.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well just to name a few things:

--few universities are teaching solid history, Constitution, government, civics, economics, ethics, or critical thinking about anything as core curriculum these days.

--most universities consider diversity more important than education and do not even wince when such diversity lowers educational standards.

--universities that provide 'safe spaces' where students will not have to hear or be exposed to any thought or concept or idea they don't like are insulating students to the point that true education becomes impossible.

--universities that allow students to dictate who will and will not be allowed on campus or who can and cannot be heard are not only encouraging the worst kind of elitism and suppression of any diversity of thought, they are no longer educating at all but are dangerously indoctrinating at a very expensive cost.
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Hear, hear.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well just to name a few things:
--universities that allow students to dictate who will and will not be allowed on campus or who can and cannot be heard are not only encouraging the worst kind of elitism and suppression of any diversity of thought, they are no longer educating at all but are dangerously indoctrinating at a very expensive cost.
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This is exactly why we need to increase the Liberal Arts requirements of all students, especially STEM students. Critical Thinking skills taught in the Liberyl Arts are necessary for an educated society. You would shocked at how many STEM majors are completely ignorant of not only Critical Theory, except Critical Race Theory, Critical Gender Theory, Critical Queen Theory, simply to name a few of the advancements in education all students need to be educated in.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Americans are spectacularly generally incapable of critical thinking now.

This I blame mostly on the Failed University.

We used to be better.
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It starts much earlier than that. Americans are systematically programmed not to question authority from early childhood. This comes from both government, and all of you statists in society, which were programmed by government, and so on. Stop the cycle.
 
Anarchon said:
It starts much earlier than that. Americans are systematically programmed not to question authority from early childhood. This comes from both government, and all of you statists in society, which were programmed by government, and so on. Stop the cycle.
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You are right that does sound like the Trumpists and their surrender to the absolute authority on anything...Donald J. Trump. It also sounds like N. Korea and Trump's "lover" Kim Jong Un. That is indeed worrisome. Stop the madness, vote Democratic.
 
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Moderate71 said:
This is exactly why we need to increase the Liberal Arts requirements of all students, especially STEM students. Critical Thinking skills taught in the Liberyl Arts are necessary for an educated society. You would shocked at how many STEM majors are completely ignorant of not only Critical Theory, except Critical Race Theory, Critical Gender Theory, Critical Queen Theory, simply to name a few of the advancements in education all students need to be educated in.
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There is no better way to teach critical thinking than providing all the information on any given subject that allows for more than a specific answer, and encouraging the student to analyze all the pros and cons. When a professor is so ideologically/politically biased that only one conclusion is acceptable, that is not teaching critical thinking. That is not educating. That is indoctrinating.

I doubt many students know what liberal arts even are any more though. It is more now the art of liberalism as the goal as liberalism is defined in modern day America.
 
AlbqOwl said:
There is no better way to teach critical thinking than providing all the information on any given subject that allows for more than a specific answer, and encouraging the student to analyze all the pros and cons. When a professor is so ideologically/politically biased that only one conclusion is acceptable, that is not teaching critical thinking. That is not educating. That is indoctrinating.

I doubt many students know what liberal arts even are any more though. It is more now the art of liberalism as the goal as liberalism is defined in modern day America.
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The problem with Western "Civilization" is too much focus has historically put on STEM and it has, ironically, held us back technologically and culturally. It has left North America and Western Europe behind the rest of the world technologically and left us living in the most brutally oppressive countries in the world.

STEM doesn't teach you to think critically or how to reason things out. It is good for teaching you facts, except for critical thinking, a Liberal Arts education is necessary.
 
Moderate71 said:
The problem with Western "Civilization" is too much focus has historically put on STEM and it has, ironically, held us back technologically and culturally. It has left North America and Western Europe behind the rest of the world technologically and left us living in the most brutally oppressive countries in the world.

STEM doesn't teach you to think critically or how to reason things out. It is good for teaching you facts, except for critical thinking, a Liberal Arts education is necessary.
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A liberal arts education taught by professors who allow/require only one point of view doesn't help promote critical thinking either.
 
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