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Bomber is a registered Republican

Kreton said:
Right - and what is in his head is the ramblings of Trump
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Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for this. While the bomber guy is getting all the press right now don't forget that there was also a guy arrested for sending ricin to Trump, Mattis and others. - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/utah-man-indicted-over-mailed-ricin-threats-to-trump-officials/ar-BBOCc5U

What was rattling around in that guy's head is every bit as much an issue as with bomber guy.
 
FreeWits said:
Yeah, he threatened to blow up a utility company for shutting his lights off. What role did politics have in that? None obviously. People want to make this political so they are. Gotta love the people calling for unity by saying the other side needs to take blame or blaming them in some way.
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sounds like your typical garden variety nutter who graduated into seriously dangerous nutter. either way, he's off the streets now. i'm glad that his bombs were **** and no one got hurt.
 
Tom Horn said:
What make the difference was he thought he could elude law enforcement. Either that or he wanted to get caught. No gray area here. Pick one. Then decide if he was trying to harm republicans. Cause he surely wasn’t trying to harm democrats.
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:lamo
 
*it's*
*their*

This is the only thing in the OP worthy of comment.
 
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Lutherf said:
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for this. While the bomber guy is getting all the press right now don't forget that there was also a guy arrested for sending ricin to Trump, Mattis and others. - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/utah-man-indicted-over-mailed-ricin-threats-to-trump-officials/ar-BBOCc5U

What was rattling around in that guy's head is every bit as much an issue as with bomber guy.
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Don't worry - it didn't take much to come to that conclusion so my arm will be ok. Thanks for your concern.

I was just reading about the guy who sent the poison letters over. Both of these men are ripe with the hatred that is boiling over in our current political environment here in the US. While I am certain you won't agree - Trump is a very large contributing factor in that as well. Plenty of people on the left contribute no doubt but the largest contribution to our division in the US is Trump. Over the midterms and leading up to 2020 sadly I expect things to get worse.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Cesar Sayoc Jr is a registered Republican. He also attended a Trump rally in 2016 as well. Republicans are violent people, its in there nature.
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The sets of violent people and republicants intersect (overlap?) yet one is not a subset of the other.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Cesar Sayoc Jr is a registered Republican. He also attended a Trump rally in 2016 as well. Republicans are violent people, its in there nature.
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It is my understanding he registered Republican just prior to the 2016 election. From his recent actions he obviously had issues with Democratic politicians. Prior to 2016 he was a Democrat. While he was a Democrat he was caught making bomb threats in 2002. In the 1990's his granny filed domestic abuse charges against him. He has a rap sheet that includes grand theft auto, selling drugs, possession of drugs while he was a registered Democrat.

So let's cut the crap shall we? Your hackery thread highlights the overheated rhetoric that causes crazy people to do some really bad things like this dude and James Hodgkinson that gunned down Scalise at a baseball practice and darn near killed him.


There's another story about a crazy guy who sent ricin to President Trump, Gen. Mattis, Admiral John Richardson earlier this month. Like the pipe bomb objects none of them reached any of them reached his targets but the guy who sent them was indicted today.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/10/18/navy-veteran-utah-appear/


You see posts like yours conflate overheated rhetoric which right now is dangerous.






Anyone who sends pipe bomb looking objects in the mail to top ranking members of a political party including former presidents, vice president and members of congress is a couple French fries short of a Happy Meal. One brick shy of a full load. Sharp as a bowl of Jello. The guy 56 years old was living in his van!

We should all be thankful that none of these devices caused harm to anyone.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Cesar Sayoc Jr is a registered Republican. He also attended a Trump rally in 2016 as well. Republicans are violent people, its in there nature.
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It is my understanding he registered Republican just prior to the 2016 election. From his recent actions he obviously had issues with Democratic politicians. Prior to 2016 he was a Democrat. While he was a Democrat he was caught making bomb threats in 2002. In the 1990's his granny filed domestic abuse charges against him. He has a rap sheet that includes grand theft auto, selling drugs, possession of drugs while he was a registered Democrat.

So let's cut the crap shall we? Your hackery thread highlights the overheated rhetoric that causes crazy people to do some really bad things like this dude and James Hodgkinson that gunned down Scalise at a baseball practice and darn near killed him.


There's another story about a crazy guy who sent ricin to President Trump, Gen. Mattis, Admiral John Richardson earlier this month. Like the pipe bomb objects none of them reached any of them reached his targets but the guy who sent them was indicted today.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/10/18/navy-veteran-utah-appear/


You see posts like yours conflate overheated rhetoric which right now is dangerous.






Anyone who sends pipe bomb looking objects in the mail to top ranking members of a political party including former presidents, vice president and members of congress is a couple French fries short of a Happy Meal. One brick shy of a full load. Sharp as a bowl of Jello. The guy 56 years old was living in his van!

We should all be thankful that none of these devices caused harm to anyone.
 
His van window graffiti is nothing that Trump hasn't also articulated.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Cesar Sayoc Jr is a registered Republican. He also attended a Trump rally in 2016 as well. Republicans are violent people, its in there nature.
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In 7 days we found out everything about this guy down to his voter registration. But some guy in Vegas shoots up a concert full of conservatives but we still know nothing of that guy!


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Atheist 2020 said:
Cesar Sayoc Jr is a registered Republican. He also attended a Trump rally in 2016 as well. Republicans are violent people, its in there nature.
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So what? And no it is not in their nature. It’s in Trump’s nature to stoke violence. The democrats are not the enemy, the press is not the enemy and as president he needs to put a stop to this negative tone he spiels to the country. We as a nation should all be condemning this assault on prominent people . The fact that he takes every comment personally shows how weak he is as a leader.
 
Kreton said:
Don't worry - it didn't take much to come to that conclusion so my arm will be ok. Thanks for your concern.

I was just reading about the guy who sent the poison letters over. Both of these men are ripe with the hatred that is boiling over in our current political environment here in the US. While I am certain you won't agree - Trump is a very large contributing factor in that as well. Plenty of people on the left contribute no doubt but the largest contribution to our division in the US is Trump. Over the midterms and leading up to 2020 sadly I expect things to get worse.
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You're talking like you and others have no ability to manage your responses to things you don't want to hear or don't like to hear. It's not Trump's fault that someone can't control their response to him.
 
Lutherf said:
It's not Trump's fault that someone can't control their response to him.
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But it is Trump's fault when he encourages trouble with divisive lines like "enemy of the people".
 
Rogue Valley said:
But it is Trump's fault when he encourages trouble with divisive lines like "enemy of the people".
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If his speech "encourages" anything it is on the listener to manage their response.

It is the nature of free speech that we might hear things we disagree with or take offense to. Taking violent actions because of that emotional response is a choice of the listener, not a function of the words used.
 
Lutherf said:
You're talking like you and others have no ability to manage your responses to things you don't want to hear or don't like to hear. It's not Trump's fault that someone can't control their response to him.
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That is a bull **** excuse. Trump spreads messages of hate and division. While people are responsible for their own actions they are being led.
 
Lutherf said:
If his speech "encourages" anything it is on the listener to manage their response.

It is the nature of free speech that we might hear things we disagree with or take offense to. Taking violent actions because of that emotional response is a choice of the listener, not a function of the words used.
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Funny. For 8 years I heard how Obama was getting police killed just by not immediately taking their side. He didn't even have to say the police were corrupt or crooked or should be locked up to be blamed. But trump can call for violence and it's not on him.
 
vesper said:
It is my understanding he registered Republican just prior to the 2016 election. From his recent actions he obviously had issues with Democratic politicians. Prior to 2016 he was a Democrat. While he was a Democrat he was caught making bomb threats in 2002. In the 1990's his granny filed domestic abuse charges against him. He has a rap sheet that includes grand theft auto, selling drugs, possession of drugs while he was a registered Democrat.

So let's cut the crap shall we? Your hackery thread highlights the overheated rhetoric that causes crazy people to do some really bad things like this dude and James Hodgkinson that gunned down Scalise at a baseball practice and darn near killed him.


There's another story about a crazy guy who sent ricin to President Trump, Gen. Mattis, Admiral John Richardson earlier this month. Like the pipe bomb objects none of them reached any of them reached his targets but the guy who sent them was indicted today.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/10/18/navy-veteran-utah-appear/


You see posts like yours conflate overheated rhetoric which right now is dangerous.






Anyone who sends pipe bomb looking objects in the mail to top ranking members of a political party including former presidents, vice president and members of congress is a couple French fries short of a Happy Meal. One brick shy of a full load. Sharp as a bowl of Jello. The guy 56 years old was living in his van!

We should all be thankful that none of these devices caused harm to anyone.
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Have you got documentation that he was a Democrat before March 2016? This is the first I've heard of it.
 
Lutherf said:
If his speech "encourages" anything it is on the listener to manage their response.

It is the nature of free speech that we might hear things we disagree with or take offense to. Taking violent actions because of that emotional response is a choice of the listener, not a function of the words used.
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Well said. As long as there's a majority that want a free country, we’re going to have to tolerate nasty hateful speech we don’t like. But speech in itself isn’t violence, and speech isn’t responsible for violence unless it calls for violence.
 
Atheist 2020 said:
Cesar Sayoc Jr is a registered Republican. He also attended a Trump rally in 2016 as well. Republicans are violent people, its in there nature.
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LOL!

Democrats hired him to send the fake bombs.

So are they not violent?

And he just greedy?

:D
 
Truckstop said:
. But trump can call for violence and it's not on him.
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LOL!

Since Trump hasn't called for violence except against violent protestors.........your tirade is more than a little silly.
 
bearpoker said:
Have you got documentation that he was a Democrat before March 2016? This is the first I've heard of it.
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Evening bearpoker, it was on a newscast this evening as they were scouring all the information they could get on this guy as soon as his name was released. From identifying as being a Seminole Indian to his long rap sheet extending over decades, he was a registered Democrat before he recently became a Republican, he spent a good part of his life working as a male stripper and was a body builder that took steroids. He recently went through a bankruptcy lost his home and was living in his van.
 
vesper said:
Evening bearpoker, it was on a newscast this evening as they were scouring all the information they could get on this guy as soon as his name was released. From identifying as being a Seminole Indian to his long rap sheet extending over decades, he was a registered Democrat before he recently became a Republican, he spent a good part of his life working as a male stripper and was a body builder that took steroids. He recently went through a bankruptcy lost his home and was living in his van.
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link please. I knew about all that stuff except for him being a Democrat. Who knew male strippers could be so violent?

ETA: There was something about a cousin saying that he thought Sayok was a Democrat, but I don't count that as conformation.
 
bearpoker said:
link please. I knew about all that stuff except for him being a Democrat. Who knew male strippers could be so violent?

ETA: There was something about a cousin saying that he thought Sayok was a Democrat, but I don't count that as conformation.
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Believe what you want, it's out there and if you really wanted to know you would at your fingertips research it. Good evening.
 
lwf said:
That doesn't follow. This is a hasty generalization. One violent Republican is not representative of Republicans in general, and nothing can be deduced about their nature.
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Shhhh....don't ruin their party.
 
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