Kemp refuses to recuse if Georgia governor race with Abrams goes to a recount

Rogue Valley · Oct 24, 2018

Kemp refuses to recuse if Georgia governor race with Abrams goes to a recount

Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp - candidate in charge of counting Georgia votes.

10/23/18
Republican Brian Kemp says he will not recuse himself as Georgia's chief elections officer even if his gubernatorial race with Democrat Stacey Abrams goes to a recount. With only 14 days to go before Election Day and early voting now in its second week, the contest to replace term-limited GOP Gov. Nathan Deal looks destined for a narrow finish, with the potential -- if neither major-party candidate wins a majority -- of a December runoff. In their Tuesday debate, the first of two, Abrams twice warned that Kemp's record in Georgia had created and sustained worries over the election process that could both turn away and scare off potential voters. "Voter suppression is not simply about being told 'no,' " Abrams said. "It's about being told it is going to be hard to cast a ballot. And that's the deeper concern that I have. Because under (his) eight years of leadership, Mr. Kemp has created an atmosphere of fear around the right to vote in the state of Georgia." The number of registrations stuck in "pending" status with Kemp's offices under Georgia's "exact match" law is more than 50,000, with nearly 70% of them, according to an Associated Press report, belonging to African-Americans.

Not surprisingly, Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp has used voter-suppression tactics against African-American voters in Georgia, and he refuses to recuse himself from recounting votes if no clear winner emerges.

Little different than how elections are managed in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: Georgia NAACP files complaints alleging voting machines incorrectly registered votes

Republicans Have a Secret Weapon in the Midterms: Voter Suppression

Kal'Stang · Oct 24, 2018

Rogue Valley said:
Kemp refuses to recuse if Georgia governor race with Abrams goes to a recount

Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp - candidate in charge of counting Georgia votes.

Not surprisingly, Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp has used voter-suppression tactics against African-American voters in Georgia, and he refuses to recuse himself from recounting votes if no clear winner emerges.

Little different than how elections are managed in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: Georgia NAACP files complaints alleging voting machines incorrectly registered votes

Republicans Have a Secret Weapon in the Midterms: Voter Suppression

:roll: Do you think Kemp counts each and every single vote himself? Hell, do you think he counts ANY votes at all? Or are there people that do that? All he'll do at most is read the tally.

AtlantaAdonis · Oct 24, 2018

My stupid state has a rep for being somewhat less backwards than Alabamistan and Pississippi but it's really actually worse under the veneer.

Grokmaster · Oct 24, 2018

Rogue Valley said:
Kemp refuses to recuse if Georgia governor race with Abrams goes to a recount

Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp - candidate in charge of counting Georgia votes.

Not surprisingly, Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp has used voter-suppression tactics against African-American voters in Georgia, and he refuses to recuse himself from recounting votes if no clear winner emerges.

Little different than how elections are managed in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: Georgia NAACP files complaints alleging voting machines incorrectly registered votes

Republicans Have a Secret Weapon in the Midterms: Voter Suppression

He's the Secretary of State.

It's HIS JOB.

lwf · Oct 24, 2018

Grokmaster said:
He's the Secretary of State.

It's HIS JOB.

Isn't it a conflict of interest?

Tanngrisnir · Oct 24, 2018

Kal'Stang said:
:roll: Do you think Kemp counts each and every single vote himself? Hell, do you think he counts ANY votes at all? Or are there people that do that? All he'll do at most is read the tally.

There is a direct and obvious conflict of interest. It's why other SOS who've run for governor in other places have recused themselves.

Duh.

Manc Skipper · Oct 24, 2018

The solution is simple. He needs to be comprehensively beaten.

MrShangles · Oct 24, 2018

Rogue Valley said:
Kemp refuses to recuse if Georgia governor race with Abrams goes to a recount

Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp - candidate in charge of counting Georgia votes.

Not surprisingly, Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp has used voter-suppression tactics against African-American voters in Georgia, and he refuses to recuse himself from recounting votes if no clear winner emerges.

Little different than how elections are managed in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: Georgia NAACP files complaints alleging voting machines incorrectly registered votes

Republicans Have a Secret Weapon in the Midterms: Voter Suppression

What voter suppression? Cleaning the voter rolls is his job. Plus anyone that goes to vote that has been removed he said will be allowed to vote. So where is the voter suppron

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Perotista · Oct 24, 2018

Rogue Valley said:
Kemp refuses to recuse if Georgia governor race with Abrams goes to a recount

Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp - candidate in charge of counting Georgia votes.

Not surprisingly, Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp has used voter-suppression tactics against African-American voters in Georgia, and he refuses to recuse himself from recounting votes if no clear winner emerges.

Little different than how elections are managed in Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Related: Georgia NAACP files complaints alleging voting machines incorrectly registered votes

Republicans Have a Secret Weapon in the Midterms: Voter Suppression

Like the election of 2016 where I didn't give an owls hoot who won between Trump and Clinton. I voted third party against both. This year for the governor of Georgia we have a wacko leftist vs. a wacko rightist. So much for common sense among the two major parties. I don't give a coyote's howl who wins here either. Like this nation is now suffering regardless who won in 2016, Georgia will suffer regardless who wins down here in 2018. Like in 2016, I voted early to make sure my official vote is tallied against both wackos.

If it goes to a runoff, I'll stay home whether than sanction either one of those wackos as Georgia next governor.

Mr Person · Oct 24, 2018

Kal'Stang said:
:roll: Do you think Kemp counts each and every single vote himself? Hell, do you think he counts ANY votes at all? Or are there people that do that? All he'll do at most is read the tally.

Where did he assert that Kemp counts each and every single vote himself, or that he counts any votes himself? Sounds like one of those troublesome ASSUMPTIONS, that only some people are allowed to draw.

He spoke about the candidate's pre-emptive refusal to concede, which really has nothing to do with personal vote-counting.

Kal'Stang · Oct 24, 2018

Tanngrisnir said:
There is a direct and obvious conflict of interest. It's why other SOS who've run for governor in other places have recused themselves.

Duh.

In his position is there any way what so ever that he can affect the tally? Any at all?

Kal'Stang · Oct 24, 2018

Mr Person said:
Where did he assert that Kemp counts each and every single vote himself, or that he counts any votes himself? Sounds like one of those troublesome ASSUMPTIONS, that only some people are allowed to draw.

He spoke about the candidate's pre-emptive refusal to concede, which really has nothing to do with personal vote-counting.

The only way that I know of that would create a CoI would be if he counted the votes himself. Reading off the tally which is handed to him by other people does not create any CoI.

Tanngrisnir · Oct 24, 2018

Kal'Stang said:
In his position is there any way what so ever that he can affect the tally? Any at all?

He can affect which ballots get counted, which ones are thrown out (as he's tried to do for a long time now, affecting minority populations disproportionally, especially with absentee votes), he's behind the idiotic 'exact match' law, he tried to close a LOT of polling places and he's essentially spent his time as SOS doing whatever he can to assure as few people can vote as possible.

This is all widely and easily available information to anyone interested in it.

Kal'Stang · Oct 25, 2018

Tanngrisnir said:
He can affect which ballots get counted, which ones are thrown out (as he's tried to do for a long time now, affecting minority populations disproportionally, especially with absentee votes), he's behind the idiotic 'exact match' law, he tried to close a LOT of polling places and he's essentially spent his time as SOS doing whatever he can to assure as few people can vote as possible.

This is all widely and easily available information to anyone interested in it.

And every single one of those things can not arbitrarily be done. It has to get voted on. He cannot pick up a ballot and just toss it into the trash can. He cannot close any polling places by himself. He cannot do anything that you've listed by himself. Unless you're going to demand every single other politician that works on such boards recuse themselves then all this talk of recusal is nothing more than meaningless talking points designed to rile up a base.

Manc Skipper · Oct 25, 2018

Kal'Stang said:
In his position is there any way what so ever that he can affect the tally? Any at all?

Why else would he insist on keeping the position?

PeteEU · Oct 25, 2018

Manc Skipper said:
Why else would he insist on keeping the position?

So he has a job if he loses...

But Yea most likely so he can manipulate the elections in his favor.

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Kal'Stang · Oct 25, 2018

Manc Skipper said:
Why else would he insist on keeping the position?

Do you apply this same rhetoric to every other politician that has that same position?

Tanngrisnir · Oct 25, 2018

Kal'Stang said:
And every single one of those things can not arbitrarily be done. It has to get voted on. He cannot pick up a ballot and just toss it into the trash can. He cannot close any polling places by himself. He cannot do anything that you've listed by himself. Unless you're going to demand every single other politician that works on such boards recuse themselves then all this talk of recusal is nothing more than meaningless talking points designed to rile up a base.

Tripe. He's overseeing an election that he's running in, and if you can't see the conflict there, it's because you don't want to. He's doing exactly what an SOS should not be doing: trying to make it harder for people to vote. Other politicians who aren't in that position are irrelevant to this.

https://www.theroot.com/brian-kemp-caught-on-tape-warning-his-donors-about-blac-1829952592

MrShangles · Oct 25, 2018

Tanngrisnir said:
He can affect which ballots get counted, which ones are thrown out (as he's tried to do for a long time now, affecting minority populations disproportionally, especially with absentee votes), he's behind the idiotic 'exact match' law, he tried to close a LOT of polling places and he's essentially spent his time as SOS doing whatever he can to assure as few people can vote as possible.

This is all widely and easily available information to anyone interested in it.

Isn’t he doing what is job calls for, SOS is supposed to keep the voter rolls clean! And if you haven’t voted in a few years then tote your but down to the registration office and register to vote again, I was able to do it to be sure, he’s not gonna bring the stuff to you, and he consolidated those polling places because only a few people used them.
And if you can’t get to a polling place you can vote absentee, we did that for my mother, she can’t go anywhere. So looks to me like a lot of bitching at folks because some are just to sorry to make a little effort.
But if someone was giving a free all you can eat buffet to every voter, somehow those same folks would find a way to get there!

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lwf · Oct 25, 2018

MrShangles said:
Isn’t he doing what is job calls for, SOS is supposed to keep the voter rolls clean! And if you haven’t voted in a few years then tote your but down to the registration office and register to vote again, I was able to do it to be sure, he’s not gonna bring the stuff to you, and he consolidated those polling places because only a few people used them.
And if you can’t get to a polling place you can vote absentee, we did that for my mother, she can’t go anywhere. So looks to me like a lot of bitching at folks because some are just to sorry to make a little effort.
But if someone was giving a free all you can eat buffet to every voter, somehow those same folks would find a way to get there!

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If a district attorney is accused of homicide, would he be just doing his job if he decided to oversee the case personally? To 'make sure it is handled properly?'

Helix · Oct 25, 2018

the voter suppression effort in Georgia is disgusting. i hope that the opposition shows up in crushing numbers and doesn't make the mistake of letting them screw with absentee ballots.

JMR · Oct 25, 2018

Kal'Stang said:
In his position is there any way what so ever that he can affect the tally? Any at all?

Do you recall a Katherine Harris? I don't believe she counted any votes either.

After several recounts were inconclusive and the laws governing recounts were unclear, Harris halted the recounting process. She certified that the Republican candidate, Texas Governor George W. Bush, had defeated the Democratic candidate, Vice President Al Gore, in the popular vote of Florida and thus certified the Republican slate of electors. This victory in Florida allowed Bush to win the election.

Cattle Company · Oct 25, 2018

Helix said:
the voter suppression effort in Georgia is disgusting. i hope that the opposition shows up in crushing numbers and doesn't make the mistake of letting them screw with absentee ballots.

The leftie propaganda about all this is what I question. Its well known fact that leftie credibility is highly suspect.

Helix · Oct 25, 2018

Cattle Company said:
The leftie propaganda about all this is what I question. Its well known fact that leftie credibility is highly suspect.

i'll put your opinions about "well known facts" in file 13 for safekeeping.

MrShangles · Oct 25, 2018

lwf said:
If a district attorney is accused of homicide, would he be just doing his job if he decided to oversee the case personally? To 'make sure it is handled properly?'

Why, did Kemp murder someone?
He said anyone that was removed from voter rolls will still be allowed to vote if they come to vote and find they had been removed, so that messes up your fake propaganda doesn’t it?

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Kemp refuses to recuse if Georgia governor race with Abrams goes to a recount

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