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UK v US Political System

Mary Dunsmore

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I have a rough understanding of how US politics works, but would appreciate it if someone could explain to me in layman's terms exactly how things work over the pond.

I shall start off by attempting to explain how our own system works, and how the electorate tend to think prior to casting their vote in the UK. We have two and a half political parties, although we almost had a third party (UKIP) before they pressed the self destruct button.

1) Conservative. Similar to Republican
2) Labour. Similar to Democrat
3) Liberal Democrat. Similar to something you would watch on children's TV.

The Tories (Conservative) are a little right of centre, and have traditionally been pretty good at controlling the budget. They aren't as compassionate as the Labour party, and believe in rewarding people for working hard, and thus attempt to keep taxes lower. Many uneducated working class people believe they represent the middle and upper class, and thus have a grave dislike for them. Their perception in actual fact is very wrong, but this belief has been passed down through many generations and is unlikely to change for many years. I used to vote for this party, but now find myself looking for a more right wing party that I can take seriously. Unfortunately there isn't one at present.

The Labour party are a bunch of bumbling idiots who live in another world. They promise everything for everyone, and claim this is made possible by taxing the richest 1% of the nation. There was a time when they were bordering on the credible, but now they have a leader (Jeremy Corbyn) who is an out and out socialist. The last Labour government bankrupt the country, allowed immigration to get out of control, gave the EU anything they asked for, introduced an underclass, and permitted political correctness to make it's way over from the US. Unfortunately there is now an entire generation getting sucked in by their nonsense and lies, and I fear the worse for the next general election.

The Lib/Dems aren't really a threat and few people really understand what they are about. In actual fact they get most of their votes from the disillusioned voters of the two main parties. Their beliefs are very left wing. They would love to tax the hell out of all of us, and would open the borders to anyone who fancied living here.

Now, our electorate are a bit of a strange bunch. Those with any real understanding of politics would only ever choose the Tories out of the three parties mentioned. Their track record is considerably better than the Labour party, and you only have take a look at their politicians to realise they have a reasonably high joint IQ. Indefinitely, those who are prepared to work hard and have achieved something in life will vote Conservative. Labour voters are quite a strange bunch. They tend to believe that Labour represent the working man, but you will struggle to find one of their voters who can explain why. The fact of the matter is that they actually represent the non working man. They love to throw benefits around, and made NOT working a lifestyle choice. They also pick up most of the immigrants votes, as it was their policies that made it possible for them to come and live in the UK. What's really strange is that the average indigenous Labour voter tends to be more right wing than the average Tory voter, they just don't realise it. Now, you may not like this next bit, but it's true all the same. Our indigenous female voters tend to either vote for the leader with the biggest smile, or just vote for who their husband votes for. I know it's not politically correct for me to express this observation, but I prefer the truth rather than following the beliefs of our liberal elite.

The UK desperately needs a new force, a political party who understands the man/woman in the street, a party who has no interest in political correctness or what the snowflakes think, and a party who will base their policies around common sense. Unfortunately I don't have time to start such as a party as I play golf five times a week :lol:
 
A UK Torie would be considered a centratist GOP, in other words a rhino. The biggest difference is not so much the partys philosophy, there is not much that separates them. It is a Parliamentarian System, in other words the party chooses its own leader, with the majority parties leader becoming head of the goverment. I lived in the UK for 13-years, British politics is not quite as interesting, most of the time its like watching paint dry.
 
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A UK Torie would be considered a centratist GOP, in other words a rhino. The biggest difference is not so much the partys philosophy, there is not much that separates them. It is a Parliamentarian System, in other words the party chooses its own leader, with the majority parties leader becoming head of the goverment. I lived in the UK for 13-years, British politics is not quite as interesting, most of the time its like watching paint dry.

I have always had the impression that the average UK electorate isn't as enthused by politics as a US electorate. At the same time I have always had the impression the average US electorate is guided more by the parties leader than the parties political stance. That said, our voters appear to be getting more Americanised
 
I have always had the impression that the average UK electorate isn't as enthused by politics as a US electorate. At the same time I have always had the impression the average US electorate is guided more by the parties leader than the parties political stance. That said, our voters appear to be getting more Americanised

UK politics is not as devisive as the US. The average Brit will not normally discuss politics. What does bind the Brits is their admiration for the monarch. Will that change when HM expires is anyones guess. Anericans rally and wrap themselves in the flag. You will only see such displays with there celebrations centered on the crown. Politicians and PM come and go, the crown is a constant precense.
 
UK politics is not as devisive as the US. The average Brit will not normally discuss politics. What does bind the Brits is their admiration for the monarch. Will that change when HM expires is anyones guess. Anericans rally and wrap themselves in the flag. You will only see such displays with there celebrations centered on the crown. Politicians and PM come and go, the crown is a constant precense.

It's not PC to be nationalistic in the UK. We are instructed to celebrate diversity rather than to love our country. Of course, I despise this attitude and take no notice of it
 
I wish that we Americans had a parliamentary style of government, too.

The position of President would be a figurehead who commanded respect (or indifference) from everyone.

The prime minister would stay in office ONLY so long as s/he had the confidence of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

That seems more democratic than our system of fixed terms.
 
I wish that we Americans had a parliamentary style of government, too.

The position of President would be a figurehead who commanded respect (or indifference) from everyone.

The prime minister would stay in office ONLY so long as s/he had the confidence of both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

That seems more democratic than our system of fixed terms.

So this is where you can educate me. What is the House of Representatives and the Senate, and how does it differ to the house of commons and the house of lords ?

Incidentally, we do have fixed terms, which are rarely overturned
 
So this is where you can educate me. What is the House of Representatives and the Senate, and how does it differ to the house of commons and the house of lords ?

Incidentally, we do have fixed terms, which are rarely overturned

That's a tall order to fill. :) If you have some time to kill, look at the US Constitution, it will give you the basics as to the authority of the House, Senate, and Executive. Then you can contrast that with your gov't.

Enjoy your golf game.
 
I have a rough understanding of how US politics works, but would appreciate it if someone could explain to me in layman's terms exactly how things work over the pond.

I shall start off by attempting to explain how our own system works, and how the electorate tend to think prior to casting their vote in the UK. We have two and a half political parties, although we almost had a third party (UKIP) before they pressed the self destruct button.

1) Conservative. Similar to Republican
2) Labour. Similar to Democrat
3) Liberal Democrat. Similar to something you would watch on children's TV.

The Tories (Conservative) are a little right of centre, and have traditionally been pretty good at controlling the budget. They aren't as compassionate as the Labour party, and believe in rewarding people for working hard, and thus attempt to keep taxes lower. Many uneducated working class people believe they represent the middle and upper class, and thus have a grave dislike for them. Their perception in actual fact is very wrong, but this belief has been passed down through many generations and is unlikely to change for many years. I used to vote for this party, but now find myself looking for a more right wing party that I can take seriously. Unfortunately there isn't one at present.

The Labour party are a bunch of bumbling idiots who live in another world. They promise everything for everyone, and claim this is made possible by taxing the richest 1% of the nation. There was a time when they were bordering on the credible, but now they have a leader (Jeremy Corbyn) who is an out and out socialist. The last Labour government bankrupt the country, allowed immigration to get out of control, gave the EU anything they asked for, introduced an underclass, and permitted political correctness to make it's way over from the US. Unfortunately there is now an entire generation getting sucked in by their nonsense and lies, and I fear the worse for the next general election.

The Lib/Dems aren't really a threat and few people really understand what they are about. In actual fact they get most of their votes from the disillusioned voters of the two main parties. Their beliefs are very left wing. They would love to tax the hell out of all of us, and would open the borders to anyone who fancied living here.

Now, our electorate are a bit of a strange bunch. Those with any real understanding of politics would only ever choose the Tories out of the three parties mentioned. Their track record is considerably better than the Labour party, and you only have take a look at their politicians to realise they have a reasonably high joint IQ. Indefinitely, those who are prepared to work hard and have achieved something in life will vote Conservative. Labour voters are quite a strange bunch. They tend to believe that Labour represent the working man, but you will struggle to find one of their voters who can explain why. The fact of the matter is that they actually represent the non working man. They love to throw benefits around, and made NOT working a lifestyle choice. They also pick up most of the immigrants votes, as it was their policies that made it possible for them to come and live in the UK. What's really strange is that the average indigenous Labour voter tends to be more right wing than the average Tory voter, they just don't realise it. Now, you may not like this next bit, but it's true all the same. Our indigenous female voters tend to either vote for the leader with the biggest smile, or just vote for who their husband votes for. I know it's not politically correct for me to express this observation, but I prefer the truth rather than following the beliefs of our liberal elite.

The UK desperately needs a new force, a political party who understands the man/woman in the street, a party who has no interest in political correctness or what the snowflakes think, and a party who will base their policies around common sense. Unfortunately I don't have time to start such as a party as I play golf five times a week :lol:

We have a Constitution which cannot be overridden by legislation, without amending it. BIG DIFF'.
 
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So this is where you can educate me. What is the House of Representatives and the Senate, and how does it differ to the house of commons and the house of lords ?


Well, the House has 435 members who are elected for 2 years. Everyone is holding his/her breath for November 6 when Americans (hopefully, ONLY citizens!) elect a new House. We are on pins and needles, for the people who "dislike" our great President hope that the Democratic Party will win a majority of those 435 seats so that they can cause as much grief as possible for the President.

E.g., they will be able to impeach the President. That is, the House will demand that the President leave his office. The case then goes to the Senate, which can agree or disagree with the House. If both Houses agree, then the President must leave. No president has ever left under such circumstances. But we did have a president named Richard Nixon who resigned, for he believed that both Houses would tell him to leave if he insisted on staying.

The Senate has members who are elected for 6 years. On November 6, there will be elections for a third of the Senate. If the Republicans lose the Senate, our wonderful President will be in big trouble, especially if (as expected) the Republicans lose control, too, of the House of Reps.

For a bill to become law, both the House of Reps and the Senate must agree and it must be signed by the President. (I understand that your Lords lost real power back in the early 20th century.)



Have a nice day!
 
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I have a rough understanding of how US politics works, but would appreciate it if someone could explain to me in layman's terms exactly how things work over the pond.

I shall start off by attempting to explain how our own system works, and how the electorate tend to think prior to casting their vote in the UK. We have two and a half political parties, although we almost had a third party (UKIP) before they pressed the self destruct button.

1) Conservative. Similar to Republican
2) Labour. Similar to Democrat
3) Liberal Democrat. Similar to something you would watch on children's TV.

The Tories (Conservative) are a little right of centre, and have traditionally been pretty good at controlling the budget. They aren't as compassionate as the Labour party, and believe in rewarding people for working hard, and thus attempt to keep taxes lower. Many uneducated working class people believe they represent the middle and upper class, and thus have a grave dislike for them. Their perception in actual fact is very wrong, but this belief has been passed down through many generations and is unlikely to change for many years. I used to vote for this party, but now find myself looking for a more right wing party that I can take seriously. Unfortunately there isn't one at present.

The Labour party are a bunch of bumbling idiots who live in another world. They promise everything for everyone, and claim this is made possible by taxing the richest 1% of the nation. There was a time when they were bordering on the credible, but now they have a leader (Jeremy Corbyn) who is an out and out socialist. The last Labour government bankrupt the country, allowed immigration to get out of control, gave the EU anything they asked for, introduced an underclass, and permitted political correctness to make it's way over from the US. Unfortunately there is now an entire generation getting sucked in by their nonsense and lies, and I fear the worse for the next general election.

The Lib/Dems aren't really a threat and few people really understand what they are about. In actual fact they get most of their votes from the disillusioned voters of the two main parties. Their beliefs are very left wing. They would love to tax the hell out of all of us, and would open the borders to anyone who fancied living here.

Now, our electorate are a bit of a strange bunch. Those with any real understanding of politics would only ever choose the Tories out of the three parties mentioned. Their track record is considerably better than the Labour party, and you only have take a look at their politicians to realise they have a reasonably high joint IQ. Indefinitely, those who are prepared to work hard and have achieved something in life will vote Conservative. Labour voters are quite a strange bunch. They tend to believe that Labour represent the working man, but you will struggle to find one of their voters who can explain why. The fact of the matter is that they actually represent the non working man. They love to throw benefits around, and made NOT working a lifestyle choice. They also pick up most of the immigrants votes, as it was their policies that made it possible for them to come and live in the UK. What's really strange is that the average indigenous Labour voter tends to be more right wing than the average Tory voter, they just don't realise it. Now, you may not like this next bit, but it's true all the same. Our indigenous female voters tend to either vote for the leader with the biggest smile, or just vote for who their husband votes for. I know it's not politically correct for me to express this observation, but I prefer the truth rather than following the beliefs of our liberal elite.

The UK desperately needs a new force, a political party who understands the man/woman in the street, a party who has no interest in political correctness or what the snowflakes think, and a party who will base their policies around common sense. Unfortunately I don't have time to start such as a party as I play golf five times a week :lol:

Our system was set up to repose much more power in the states than the Federal government as our founders feared, rightly, too much centralization. The Constitution lays out specifically what the Federal government can do and what it cannot do and the rest is reserved to the states. Unfortunately, we've had a steady diminution of state power and growth of Federal power for the last century to where the Federal government now concerns itself with numerous responsibilities nowhere given it in the Constitution.
 
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