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Who is a "real" American?

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I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?
 
Curious why you would watch such stupid videos.
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

No real American would ask that question.
 
Curious why you would watch such stupid videos.

And you have never watched video's like those. Some how I don't believe you!!! It is always interesting to see people make total fools of themselves and that is what people telling others they are not real Americans are doing. Of course that is only my opinion, what is yours?
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

Anyone of any identity who is a US citizen is a real American.

Noncitizens I leave as an open question.
 
A "real" American is anyone who considers the statement "All Men are Created Equal" to be a self-evident truth. A non-American is anyone who would attempt to dispute that as anything but an undeniable truth. If you believe that the quality of a human being can be determined by the circumstances of their birth then you yourself are a low-quality human being, and you don't belong in America.
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

Me. The entire planet has changed hands at one time or another....
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

Why would you watch such videos?

I watch videos all the time, and I can't remember seeing such filth.

Do you frequent white supremacy sites to watch their videos?

As for the question in the thread title:

A real American is anyone that is a citizen of the United States of America, or more broadly, anyone that is a citizen of any of the countries that are part of North America, Central America, or South America. For the most part, however, the term "American" is usually utilized to describe a citizen of the U.S.

Now, that said, the basic truth of the matter is that, like I said above, the term "American" is usually used to describe a U.S. citizen, however, I have been on record here NUMEROUS times voicing my displeasure at using modifiers in front of the term American. There is no difference between a "true" American and an America. There is no need to allow people to divide us, much less a need for us to divide ourselves.

We should not use hyphenations or modifiers to separate us one from the other. There are only Americans. All U.S. citizens are true Americans. No modifier required.

When we use modifiers, we lessen the term being modified. We lessen ourselves.
 
And you have never watched video's like those. Some how I don't believe you!!! It is always interesting to see people make total fools of themselves and that is what people telling others they are not real Americans are doing. Of course that is only my opinion, what is yours?



1763 -- First known Filipino settlement in America was recorded in the bayous of St. Malo, near the city of New Orleans.

1815 -- Battle of New Orleans
The Battle of New Orleans became the final major battle of the War of 1812. Outnumbered American forces commanded by Major General Andrew Jackson defeated an invading British Army intent on seizing New Orleans and the vast territory the United States had acquired from the Louisiana Purchase. Many Manilamen joined the U.S. Army and fought against the British. It was the first involvement of Filipinos in America's war.

1806-1862 -- "Coolie" Trade
British end of African slave trade spurs "Coolie" trade to replace slaves throughout the Caribbean, Central and South America.​

As British ships stopped the trade in African slaves, Latin American landowners and others with requirements for large, cheap labor forces turned to Asia for their needs. This form of indentured servitude was supposed to act as a transition phase, at least in the tropics between slavery and wage labor. The plight of the British West Indian sugar planters, where sugar production had dropped by one-third because of the loss of labor, carried more weight in the arguments between moral beliefs and the pragmatic need for labor. In July 1844, British authorities opened up the emigration of Indians to British colonies.
-- James L. Huseman, "The Chinese in Costa Rica, 1855-1897"

1882 -- Chinese Six Companies founded
Begun to promote community cooperation and to protect ethnic identity in the face of discrimination and violence against first-generation Chinese immigrants in the Chinatown district of San Francisco, the Chinese Six Companies quickly grew into a powerful national organization that worked to defend the civil and political rights of Chinese Americans in the face of increasingly anti-Chinese federal legislation enacted by the U.S. Congress between 1880 and 1920.

1863 -- Chinese workers commence building railroads
A worried Charles Crocker, one of the railroad barons, decided to try out fifty Chinese -- miners, laundry men, domestic servants, labourers and market gardeners. You wouldn't think, from their diminutive build, that they would be much good at it, but the Chinese proved such satisfactory workers -- so "quiet, peaceable, patient, industrious and economical," the President of the company was to observe -- that the Central Pacific had twelve to fourteenth thousand of them on its payroll before the project was finished.
Lynn Pan, Sons of the Yellow Emperor

1869 -- Transcontinental Railroad completed

1870 -- Anti-Chinese movement begins
Seeking the end of Chinese immigration, violence, race riots, and destruction of property are among the tactics directed against Chinese scapegoats. Popular poetry reflected the racism toward the Chinese.

That for ways that are dark,
And for tricks that are vain,
The heathen Chinese is peculiar--
Which the same I am free to maintain.
Francis Bret Harte, Plain Language from Truthful James, "Table Mountain, 1870"

1869 -- Frederick Douglass rails against the anti-Chinese campaign
I want a home here not only for the negro, the mulatto and the Latin races; but I want the Asiatic to find a home here in the United States, and feel at home here, both for his sake and for ours.
-- Frederick Douglass


Are those people's descendents not real Americans. I think they are.
 
I laugh when I am told that...and have been more than once....and I am American Indian....even once was told to speak English when I was speaking in a native language to a fellow Native....The person said, we speak English in this country go back to where you came from...when I told her I was speaking an American Indian dialect she became pale and walked away.
 
I laugh when I am told that...and have been more than once....and I am American Indian....even once was told to speak English when I was speaking in a native language to a fellow Native....The person said, we speak English in this country go back to where you came from...when I told her I was speaking an American Indian dialect she became pale and walked away.

Don’t be sad. Some people get confused or sad when they actually meet a real American.
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

My God... Another race-baiting thread... This crap is getting out of hand.

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I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

The people you seem to be referring to are generally talking about the Europeans who sailed over to the Americas, conquered the land, and set up the United States by declaring independence from Britain. If we are to convince these people to change, we have to treat them like real people and take on the best spirit of their argument. Some of your objections don't make a lot of sense, because it really doesn't matter that Mexico extended out into modern-day USA. That's like saying Russians are Alaskan.
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

The constitution.....they may be assholes, but the 1st amendment protects their right to do so.
 
A "real" American is anyone who considers the statement "All Men are Created Equal" to be a self-evident truth. A non-American is anyone who would attempt to dispute that as anything but an undeniable truth.

No feminist Americans then? And, less facetiously, no atheist Americans? No Americans who recognise that traits like iintelligence, disabilities and so on are natural inequalities? The intended sentiment is a good one, but as written is hardly a self-evident, undeniable truth.

Of course, being an Aussie I would say that, wouldn't I?
 
To me, a "real American" is any citizen of any ethnicity who believes in and practices American cultural values.

Those values include:

1. Being honest in personal and business matters.
2. Going the extra mile.
3. Being a good sport when it comes to athletics and elections.
4. Being tolerant of all ethnicities, genders, religions, sexualities, etc.
5. Being a good neighbor.
6. Considering the feelings and the rights of other people.
7. Never verbally or physically abusing another person.
 
My God... Another race-baiting thread... This crap is getting out of hand.

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Race baiting are the people who are telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they talk or look a certain way. People trying to have an open discussion on why that attitude is so prevalent, even in today's society, are not.
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

As a lifelong military man, the real Americans are those who picked up arms to defend America. They come from all shapes, color and religion. Most don't or didn't have strong political views, but loved this country enough they are willing to put it all on the line for it. Actions more than anything else.

Of course one can try to politicized who is and who isn't, I suppose Democrats don't think Republicans are real Americans and vice versa. The right doesn't think the left is and again, vice versa. The liberal northeast and west coast don't think those in-between belong in America and vice versa.

Then again, there probably isn't any real American as anyone can come up with their own criteria of what it takes to be one. That will differ from individual to individual. From one's political persuasion and thought process.
 
No feminist Americans then? And, less facetiously, no atheist Americans?
The statement has absolutely been extended to women. As far as atheists I'm not sure what you think you're talking about.

No Americans who recognize that traits like intelligence, disabilities and so on are natural inequalities?
We're talking about under the law. While people may be different, and many may be born with special talents you cannot predetermine the quality of a person based upon the circumstances they were born into. That is absolutely an undeniable truth.

The intended sentiment is a good one, but as written is hardly a self-evident, undeniable truth.

Of course, being an Aussie I would say that, wouldn't I?

Yes, apparently you don't belong here.
 
I watch on video's all of these people running around telling people that they are not real Americans. Usually it is someone white telling someone of color to go back to where they came from as they are not welcome here and are not real Americans. I find this interesting as it is a sure thing that many of the people being told that they are not real Americans ancestors came to our country long before the ancestors of those who are telling them they are not real Americans. Many of the ancestors of African Americans were brought over to our country before 1860. Many Chinese Americans came to help build the rail system from East to West coast. Many Latino's were here even before Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California were taken from Mexico. I know my own relatives came over in the 1890's, long after many of the relatives of these people had long settled in our country. So why do these people think they have the right to tell people that they are not real Americans and should go back to where they came from?

Let me straighten you out on this.

A "real American" is a Palin humping, Trump voting, uneducated, racist,gun toting, drug using hillbilly.

You are confusing an American with a "real American" in this post. The term "real American" is just that, a term. A term designed to make this failed American feel they are not responsible for their failures. Those who ran to be umbrellaed under this artificial term did so in need of vindication for that failed life which the term offers to those that "believe."

Hope this helps!
 
Anyone of any identity who is a US citizen is a real American.

Noncitizens I leave as an open question.

This is an inaccurate definition. Please see post 20 for the accurate one.

thanks.
 
A "real" American is anyone who considers the statement "All Men are Created Equal" to be a self-evident truth. A non-American is anyone who would attempt to dispute that as anything but an undeniable truth. If you believe that the quality of a human being can be determined by the circumstances of their birth then you yourself are a low-quality human being, and you don't belong in America.

I have to give you a D. See post 20.
 
actually a real american is anyone born on this continent...or the South American continent.....North America and South America are continents...we are Americans, but so are Mexicans, Canadians, Guatemalans, Panamanians, Venezuelans, etc.
 
The statement has absolutely been extended to women. As far as atheists I'm not sure what you think you're talking about.

'Created' equal, and even moreso the DoI's continuation "endowed by their Creator" is an inherently theist sentiment... not a self-evident truth.

We're talking about under the law. While people may be different, and many may be born with special talents you cannot predetermine the quality of a person based upon the circumstances they were born into. That is absolutely an undeniable truth.

So instead of "All men created equal" the phrase should be "All people are born equal under the law." (And then there'd be an uproar that it should be 'conceived,' not born.)

But even then, US law does not treat citizens and non-citizens alike, so to say that they that are equal under the law would be a bit of a stretch.

"Self-evident" and "undeniable truths" are often just short-hand terms for things that we don't want people to question too much ;) If it were me, I'd be a bit wary of considering that a defining characteristic of my countrymen.
 
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