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How white liberals really view black voters

AlphaOmega said:
Absolutely brilliant takedown!
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And INFURIATING....the SMUG PRESUMED "SUPERIORITY" of the white leftiists...

AMI HOROWITZ is ALWAYS very sharp...
 
Grokmaster said:
And INFURIATING....the SMUG PRESUMED "SUPERIORITY" of the white leftiists...

AMI HOROWITZ is ALWAYS very sharp...
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I love the part where white leftists think blacks arent smart enough to use the internet or to have data plans on their phones.
 
Like I always say... it is the Liberal Democrat that is the biggest racist out there...
 
Captain Adverse said:
IMO it does seem like many Progressives tend to think that Black Americans are like little children; who can't do for themselves, can't think for themselves, don't understand politics, are poorly educated, and need to be guided by the hand or they will somehow lose themselves.

I think they've seen too many movies.

I am here to tell you that we aren't all as helpless and easily led as some of people tend to think. We are trying to lead our people off that "Democratic plantation."
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I was in 100% agreement with you until that last sentence. I loathe that "Democratic plantation" narrative as it is every bit as condescending as the Left's narrative.
 
The difference is we progressives think people of color can't be expected to be prepared and informed voter because of systemically being deprived of quality education and want them to have that education, whereas right wingers want people of color to remain ignorant, incapable voters.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
The difference is we progressives think people of color can't be expected to be prepared and informed voter because of systemically being deprived of quality education and want them to have that education, whereas right wingers want people of color to remain ignorant, incapable voters.
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Do you even realize how racist and condescending your post is?
 
White liberals are the most racist people on earth. They only pretend to like black folks. They are only interested in their votes, same with illegal aliens. If illegal aliens voted for republicans the left would be building a wall so fast it would make your head spin.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
The difference is we progressives think people of color can't be expected to be prepared and informed voter because of systemically being deprived of quality education and want them to have that education, whereas right wingers want people of color to remain ignorant, incapable voters.
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More like the Plantation Progessives think that they must come "rescue" da po' black folks., because dey jus not smart enuff to get dem some IDs.

NAUSEATING.


WATCH THE OP VIDEO...get EDUCATED about how blacks feel about that patronizing, RACIST crap...

BTW- it is CONSERVATIVES that favor SCHOOL CHOICE for kids in CRAP SCHOOLS, and "progressives" who seek to keep them TRAPPED THERE, to make sure not to endanger money to the DNC through to UniionDemThug public sector teachers' unions...
 
RileyCoyote said:
White liberals are the most racist people on earth. They only pretend to like black folks. They are only interested in their votes, same with illegal aliens. If illegal aliens voted for republicans the left would be building a wall so fast it would make your head spin.
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Bingo.
 
Grokmaster said:
Patronizing...plantation-mentality RACISM:




Ami Horowitz: How white liberals really view black voters




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The left reminds me of modern day Archie bunkers from all in the family. They are ignorant of their bigotry.

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Seriously! The interviewer went to Harlem to query blacks about IDs?

Were the so-called white liberals inarticulate, slovenly in their diction if one will, in their qualification of African-American individuals whose enfranchisement is at risk of being detrimentally affected by voter identification statutes? Yes.

Harlem, which is ~61% African-American, is one of the epicenters of the black community, that's true. Harlem also is one of the epicenters of solidly middle class (or higher) and upwardly-mobile blacks.

What the interviewer did is tantamount to going to any solidly, even if not totally, upper middle class (or higher) white neighborhood, surveying people there about their accomplishments, knowledge and behavior, and then extrapolating the findings to the whole of the white population.

Quite simply, middle class/income (or higher) blacks will likely be no more adversely affected by voter registration than will middle class/income (or higher) whites. Blacks who live along the the 16th Street corridor of Northwest, DC (aka the "Gold Coast" -- neighborhoods such as Crestwood, Shepherd Park, Colonial Village, and North Portal Estates) are not, for themselves, concerned about whether having a state issued ID be a requirement to vote and neither are blacks in the nation's other centers of African-American "middle-classdom."

The disenfranchisement risk presents itself with regard to blacks below middle-class status; however, the issue isn't as much a black one as it is a poor, or poor and rural, one, and it's that, compared to whites, a larger share of blacks and Latinos are poor. The concern is for whatever share of working class poor and impoverished blacks, and they comprise ~54% of the African-American population in the U.S.

There is also the matter that obtaining an ID costs money, which for folks for whom "money's too tight to mention," whatever it costs means they have to forgo something else. What does it cost to get an ID if one hasn't one? I suppose that varies by jurisdiction.
  • Cost by state to get one's birth certificate
  • Cost by state of a driver's licence
  • Comprehensive study detailing the costs/challenges of obtaining an ID
    Federal courts have previously declared that states with restrictive voter ID laws must make the necessary paperwork available for free. Problem solved? Hardly. This report conclusively demonstrates that this promise of free voter ID is a mirage. In reality, poor voters find shuttered offices, long drives without cars, and with spotty or no bus service, and sometimes prohibitive costs. For these Americans, the promise of our democracy is tangibly distant.
    • The map shows that in areas with the greatest concentrations of poor black voters, no state ID-issuing offices are open more than two days per week. It also shows that many of these states’ part-time offices are located in the areas with the highest concentrations of black voters. The crosshatched areas outline the 13 contiguous “black belt” counties in MS, 11 contiguous “black belt” counties in AL, and 21 contiguous “black belt” counties in GA where all state ID-issuing offices are open two days per week or less.

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    • The map below shows that in some areas in TX with high concentrations of Latino voters, there are few or no ID-issuing offices. The map depicts concentrations of the Latino voting-age population, by 2010 Census Block Group, together with the number of hours/week each office location is open. The crosshatched areas represent the 32 counties with few or no ID-issuing offices.

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For folks who have no sense of just how large an area be the adversely affected folks in West TX or another area shown above, this overlay tool may help: OverlayMaps.com.
 
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The vote ID matter is compounded by what's been called the "The Great Poll Closure."

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Top 15 poll closure counties (nominal):

  • AZ PIMA COUNTY -62
  • TX WILLIAMSON COUNTY -35
  • AZ MARICOPA COUNTY -33AZ MOHAVE COUNTY -32
  • AZ COCHISE COUNTY -31
  • TX NUECES COUNTY -29
  • TX MCLENNAN COUNTY -27 (Given the info below, this county had 57 polling places before the closures. It's population is ~251K.)
  • TX BRAZORIA COUNTY -24
  • LA JEFFERSON PARISH -23
  • TX FORT BEND COUNTY -18
  • TX JEFFERSON COUNTY -17
  • AZ GILA COUNTY -16
  • AL ELMORE COUNTY -14
  • TX SMITH COUNTY -14
  • TX TRAVIS COUNTY -14

Top 15 poll closure counties (ratio):

* -- Indicates a TX county (6 of them) that saw population increases, yet the quantity of polling places decreased. I don't care what race be the people there.​


  • [*=1]Why have more people and fewer places for them to vote?

    • [*=1]To make lines longer?
      [*=1]To make people travel farther?
      [*=1]To make folks take more time out of their day to get to a polling place and vote?

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Reviewing just the data above, one finds there are about 1 million people -- from but six counties -- who saw the quantity of polling places available to them reduced by ~40 to ~55 percent. One need only review the TX vote counts by county for the 2016 election, and it becomes clear just what impact reducing polling places augurs to have, especially if that "stunt" be combined with a voter ID requirement.
 
Nap said:
Do you even realize how racist and condescending your post is?
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No..they never get that ,as they only see their own self-declared Moral Superiority....as the OP video so aptly illustrates.
 
Xelor said:
The vote ID matter is compounded by what's been called the "The Great Poll Closure."

poll-closures-since-shelby-leadership-conference.jpg


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Top 15 poll closure counties (nominal):

  • AZ PIMA COUNTY -62
  • TX WILLIAMSON COUNTY -35
  • AZ MARICOPA COUNTY -33AZ MOHAVE COUNTY -32
  • AZ COCHISE COUNTY -31
  • TX NUECES COUNTY -29
  • TX MCLENNAN COUNTY -27 (Given the info below, this county had 57 polling places before the closures. It's population is ~251K.)
  • TX BRAZORIA COUNTY -24
  • LA JEFFERSON PARISH -23
  • TX FORT BEND COUNTY -18
  • TX JEFFERSON COUNTY -17
  • AZ GILA COUNTY -16
  • AL ELMORE COUNTY -14
  • TX SMITH COUNTY -14
  • TX TRAVIS COUNTY -14

Top 15 poll closure counties (ratio):

* -- Indicates a TX county (6 of them) that saw population increases, yet the quantity of polling places decreased. I don't care what race be the people there.​


  • [*=1]Why have more people and fewer places for them to vote?

    • [*=1]To make lines longer?
      [*=1]To make people travel farther?
      [*=1]To make folks take more time out of their day to get to a polling place and vote?

4edd44ac01d7c.image.jpg


texas-county-map.gif

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Reviewing just the data above, one finds there are about 1 million people -- from but six counties -- who saw the quantity of polling places available to them reduced by ~40 to ~55 percent. One need only review the TX vote counts by county for the 2016 election, and it becomes clear just what impact reducing polling places augurs to have, especially if that "stunt" be combined with a voter ID requirement.
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The number of voting places APPLIES TO EVERYONE, not just "certain races", and consolidating them reduces COSTS, and make VOTER FRAUD MORE DIFFICULT, so , naturally, the Fraudocrats object.


What's the problem with VOTER IDs....OH YEAH, as the OP illustrates, WHITE LEFTISTS see their "Poor, disadvantaged 'wards' of color" as TOO STUPID and/or INCOMPETENT to get an ID...
 
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Grokmaster said:
The number of voting places APPLIES TO EVERYONE, not just "certain races", and consolidating them reduces COSTS, and make VOTER FRAUD MORE DIFFICULT, so , naturally, the Fraudocrats object.


What's the problem with VOTER IDs....OH YEAH, as the OP illustrates, WHITE LEFTISTS see their "Poor, disadvantaged 'wards' of color" as TOO STUPID and/or INCOMPETENT to get an ID...
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It's funny how all of that information, didn't even attempt to cover that point at all.

There is no issue with voter IDs, they are available for everyone who can bother to make the effort to get one and even then it not that much of an issue.
 
Grokmaster said:
Patronizing...plantation-mentality RACISM:




Ami Horowitz: How white liberals really view black voters




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What makes you an expert. Your post indicates a severe case of partisanship, which makes your opinion null and void.
 
Every adult (anyone over 30 years of age) knows that many liberals talk the talk but they seldom walk the walk.

This especially applies to the rich and famous people who beat their breasts telling the whole world how liberal they are.
 
Grokmaster said:
Patronizing...plantation-mentality RACISM:




Ami Horowitz: How white liberals really view black voters
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That's our future people. Talking about a population of people as if they are dumb, unable to do anything for themselves, NEED white people to HELP them. So ****ing insulting.
 
SheWolf said:
He focused on voter ID laws, not purges, downsizing the number of polling places, and other voting restrictions, so I am not convinced that this video really proves anything other than he was trying to make liberals look racist.
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Nah, the liberals did that all by themselves. He didn't put the words in their mouths.
 
Oborosen said:
It's funny how all of that information, didn't even attempt to cover that point at all.

There is no issue with voter IDs, they are available for everyone who can bother to make the effort to get one and even then it not that much of an issue.
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MAKE THE EFFORT = the key words...
 
Grokmaster said:
Patronizing...plantation-mentality RACISM:




Ami Horowitz: How white liberals really view black voters




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ROFL!

As if the uniformed opinions of street interviews carry the weight of numerous studies published in peer reviewed journals. :lamo

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters
America is the world's dominant superpower, and white Christian males sit at the top of our nation's food chain. That's the right and proper hierarchy, and it's under serious threat.

When blue-collar whites heard that implied message from Donald Trump, many realized it aligned with their own beliefs. As a result, they broke with precedent to support the Republican candidate for president.

That's the conclusion of a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the latest to analyze what drove Trump voters (aside from traditional party affiliation). Other recently published studies have pointed to the appeal of authoritarianism, or plain old racism and sexism.


We know who the racists are, that's why the Republican party chose the leader of the racist Birther Movement to represent them.
 
holbritter said:
Nah, the liberals did that all by themselves. He didn't put the words in their mouths.
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No. But he very likely edited them to zero in on what he wanted. This video does not handle the debate properly or honestly. The most likely people to not have a VALID ID are older people. But many young people may have an expired ID or carry an invalid ID such has student ID, depending on where they vote.

The guy handled the discussion inappropriately.
 
Grokmaster said:
That is the Left's Plantation Mentality in a nutshell.
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You know, I have often said, if this country saw a major shift of black voters to the GOP, you would see a resurgence of racism from the left like never before. I'm talking Jim Crow all over again.
 
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