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Trump calls Elizabeth Warren 'Pocahontas' again after she reveals DNA results

1/64 to 1/1024th American Indian is 1.5% max to 0.1% min Indian blood. I would be stunned if the margin of error of the test is much better than the former, and I know it isn't anywhere near accurate enough to declare the latter as a legitimate number. They may as well just say, "there is a 0 to 1% chance she is American Indian."

So, Trump continues to mock a white person who is dubiously pretending to be Native American. Sheer brilliance. Meanwhile, Liz rolls around in the dog pile she stepped in.


Hats off where it is due. Trump kicked Liz's ass on this one. Time to move on, Lady Warren. Time to move on.
 
She has some native ancestry, and even if she didn't, in no way is it appropriate to call her Pocahontas.

No hats are due. You're applauding Trump for continuing to be a horrible person.
 
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Apparently he's numbing you to his inappropriateness.

If he can do it to you, think what's happening to people across the country.


We're starting to get used to our new home in the fetid mud. If we get sufficiently accustomed to it, we could resist being ever being raised from it.
 
calamity said:
Time to move on, Lady Warren. Time to move on.
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The release of a DNA test indicating she is 99.9% White was a boneheaded political move. I don't think that the people trying to defend her "Native American heritage" are seeing the bigger picture.
 
Amelia said:
She has some native ancestry, and even if she didn't, in no world is it appropriate to call her Pocahontas.

No hats are due. You're applauding Trump for continuing to be a horrible person.
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This is old news. He's moved on to calling Stormy Daniels Horseface.
 
Amelia said:
She has some native ancestry, and even if she didn't, in no way is it appropriate to call her Pocahontas.

No hats are due. You're applauding Trump for continuing to be a horrible person.
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Exactly.

I just said in another thread Trump acts no better than a first grader but I retract that and say no better than a preschooler. Even children at that age are taught to treat their classmates better.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
This is old news. He's moved on to calling Stormy Daniels Horseface.
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Well, hats off to him. Yay, Trump. It's so great to have such a sharp player as our president. So many asses to kick, so little time.

And to think he's doing all this between making nice with more dictators.

I am in awe.
 
Amelia said:
She has some native ancestry, and even if she didn't, in no world is it appropriate to call her Pocahontas.

No hats are due. You're applauding Trump for continuing to be a horrible person.
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I'm pretty much in agreement with this. While Trump is correct in his criticism of her claiming to be a minority, calling her pocahontas is inappropriate. This whole thing blew up badly for her and would have been much worse if Trump were able to show some restraint.
 
Taylor said:
The release of a DNA test indicating she is 99.9% White was a boneheaded political move. I don't think that the people trying to defend her are seeing the bigger picture.
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That's not unusual of late. Screaming at the Senate over a SC nominee wasn't a great idea either, but it's difficult to convince the dedicated that perhaps a more reasoned tone is the better route. And the left wonders why it's in a politically powerless position. Duh. Even my dogs understand that barking for a treat gets them nothing.
 
Taylor said:
The release of a DNA test indicating she is 99.9% White was a boneheaded political move. I don't think that the people trying to defend her "Native American heritage" are seeing the bigger picture.
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I had to laugh at one quote in an opinion piece I read that said, "she is white enough to get an endorsement from Richard Spencer".
 
Nap said:
I'm pretty much in agreement with this. While Trump is correct in his criticism of her claiming to be a minority, calling her pocahontas is inappropriate. This whole thing blew up badly for her and would have been much worse if Trump were able to show some restraint.
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Except if Trump were able to show some restraint we wouldn't be at a point where someone would have felt a need to share her DNA results to back up what her mother taught her as a child.

We are at a national low not seen in generations. There are no winners.
 
Odd subject to try to seek a reaction on given all the existing threads, but ok....
 
calamity said:
Trump calls Elizabeth Warren 'Pocahontas' again after she reveals DNA results

1/64 to 1/1024th American Indian is 1.5% max to 0.1% min Indian blood. I would be stunned if the margin of error of the test is much better than the former, and I know it isn't anywhere near accurate enough to declare the latter as a legitimate number. They may as well just say, "there is a 0 to 1% chance she is American Indian."

So, Trump continues to mock a white person who is dubiously pretending to be Native American. Sheer brilliance. Meanwhile, Liz rolls around in the dog pile she stepped in.


Hats off where it is due. Trump kicked Liz's ass on this one. Time to move on, Lady Warren. Time to move on.
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Total unforced error. I often wonder how people who've made it relatively high in politics (a U.S. Senator with credible presidential aspirations) and are surrounded by advisors make such boneheaded decisions. And of course the media are running it into the ground.
 
Amelia said:
Except if Trump were able to show some restraint we wouldn't be at a point where someone would have felt a need to share her DNA results to back up what her mother taught her as a child.

We are at a national low not seen in generations. There are no winners.
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This has been a controversial issue with her long before Trump ever became relevant politically. If she planned on ever running for President then this was going to be inevitable. It is better for her to get it out and over with now rather than take the hit during the campaign.
 
Amelia said:
She has some native ancestry, and even if she didn't, in no way is it appropriate to call her Pocahontas.

No hats are due. You're applauding Trump for continuing to be a horrible person.
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He's mocking her on making a mockery of Native Ancestry... It isn't nice, but it's not inappropriate.

Unless you have a standard that you can never not be nice or disrespectful of course... but I think that's silly. Him calling her Pocahontas is funny, it's not over the top.... If he were to call a Native American that, and mocking them for the sake of being Native American.... yea that's crossing the line. But he's doing the opposite.
 
calamity said:
Trump calls Elizabeth Warren 'Pocahontas' again after she reveals DNA results

1/64 to 1/1024th American Indian is 1.5% max to 0.1% min Indian blood. I would be stunned if the margin of error of the test is much better than the former, and I know it isn't anywhere near accurate enough to declare the latter as a legitimate number. They may as well just say, "there is a 0 to 1% chance she is American Indian."

So, Trump continues to mock a white person who is dubiously pretending to be Native American. Sheer brilliance. Meanwhile, Liz rolls around in the dog pile she stepped in.


Hats off where it is due. Trump kicked Liz's ass on this one. Time to move on, Lady Warren. Time to move on.
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Just to be clear, the tests 'proved' that she had someone in her ancestry, 6-10 generations back, who originated from Mexico or Peru.
 
LincolnRossiter said:
Total unforced error. I often wonder how people who've made it relatively high in politics (a U.S. Senator with credible presidential aspirations) and are surrounded by advisors make such boneheaded decisions. And of course the media are running it into the ground.
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I agree; who thought this was a good idea at this time considering the results. Time to shoot the other foot........... :blastem:
 
celticwar17 said:
He's mocking her on making a mockery of Native Ancestry... It isn't nice, but it's not inappropriate.

Unless you have a standard that you can never not be nice or disrespectful of course... but I think that's silly. Him calling her Pocahontas is funny, it's not over the top.... If he were to call a Native American that, and mocking them for the sake of being Native American.... yea that's crossing the line. But he's doing the opposite.
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B.S.

It's wrong. Period.

He is making fun of her for believing something she was taught as a child. And he is doing it in culturally inappropriate terms. You are defending someone who called a black Apprentice contestant Uncle Tom and had to have it explained to him that this was not cool.

He didn't care if she really had any native heritage or not -- he started calling her Pocahontas to score political points. If you are part of the group he was pandering to, then you should be embarrassed that he thinks so poorly of you.

He didn't care about the facts when he said Obama was born in Kenya and was not legitimately president.


His behavior is inappropriate, and it's not justified by any after-the-fact discoveries about how close Elizabeth Warren's mother was to being accurate. That even Calamity would show that he's becoming numb to how wrong it is ... that is the sad takeaway of this thread.
 
humbolt said:
That's not unusual of late. Screaming at the Senate over a SC nominee wasn't a great idea either, but it's difficult to convince the dedicated that perhaps a more reasoned tone is the better route. And the left wonders why it's in a politically powerless position. Duh. Even my dogs understand that barking for a treat gets them nothing.
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While I also would prefer our politicians to use a reasoned tone, it's hard to make that argument when barking appears to work better. The effectiveness of barking is not that it bullies or intimidates someone more powerful than you into giving you what you want. It is effective because it tends to get other dogs barking which spurs them to go out and vote. That's the real power and the 2016 presidential election has proven just how effective it is. Conservatives waged a surprisingly effective campaign using exactly this tactic.

In american democracy it turns out barking can indeed get you a treat, sadly. 'The left' is hardly alone in using this tactic.
 
We can't really judge her until we walk a mile in her moccasins.
 
Rexedgar said:
I agree; who thought this was a good idea at this time considering the results. Time to shoot the other foot........... :blastem:
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I think that Warren thought this would prompt a twitter storm or other negative comments which would be negative publicity for Republicans in the run-up to the election. Someone must have advised Trump that the best thing to do was leave the bait alone. Kudos to him for listening for once.
 
Amelia said:
She has some native ancestry, and even if she didn't, in no way is it appropriate to call her Pocahontas.

No hats are due. You're applauding Trump for continuing to be a horrible person.
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He's a troll, and he played this one perfectly. Sad to say, Trump wins this round.
 
Rexedgar said:
I agree; who thought this was a good idea at this time considering the results. Time to shoot the other foot........... :blastem:
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I don't think she's the strongest contender for 2020 anyway, so I guess I don't care. But when are people going to learn you that you can't get down in the gutter and play Trump's game. The gutter is his home turf. As my pastor used to say, don't get down in the mud to scrap with a pig. You'll just get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.
 
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