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Robert E. Lee Descendant Slams Trump

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Robert E. Lee Descendant Slams Trump Over Praise For Confederate General

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Rob Lee

10/14/18
A descendant of Robert E. Lee said in a video tweet Saturday that he was “disheartened” to hear President Donald Trump praise the Confederate general, saying Trump is supporting an “idol of white supremacy and hatred.” Trump at a rally in Ohio Friday hailed the military skills of Lee, calling him a “true great fighter and a great general” who racked up victories against the Union — until he was defeated by Ulysses S. Grant. The president only focused on Lee’s military skills and hailed Grant in his home state of Ohio. But Trump’s chief of staff John F. Kelly has also called Lee an “honorable man.” “Last night I was disheartened to hear Donald Trump, our president, make comments about Robert E. Lee as a great general, as an honorable man. These were far from the truth,” said Robert Lee IV, who is the great-great-great-great nephew of the general. “Robert E. Lee fought for the continued enslavement of black bodies. rump’s comments made Lee “saddened by the state of our nation,” he said. “But I’m encouraged because we are going to work to end this,” he added. “We are going to vote. We are going to show Donald Trump that white supremacy has no place in ... our government. We are going to show him who the people are and what really matters in this nation.”
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Get out and vote on November 6th folks. Don't allow Donald Trump and the GOP to resurrect racial divisions in this great nation of all colors and ethnicities.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Robert E. Lee Descendant Slams Trump Over Praise For Confederate General

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Rob Lee



Get out and vote on November 6th folks. Don't allow Donald Trump and the GOP to resurrect racial divisions in this great nation of all colors and ethnicities.
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Good grief. It is interesting how many are get so upset about discussion of historical wars. Wasn't Lee effective in many of the battles he provided leadership in? That has nothing to do with the politics behind the battle.

It is interesting how descendent of Lee used the words " black bodies". Seems racist to me by todays political correctness standards.. :mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
Good grief. It is interesting how many are get so upset about discussion of historical wars. Wasn't Lee effective in many of the battles he provided leadership in? That has nothing to do with the politics behind the battle.

It is interesting how descendent of Lee used the words " black bodies". Seems racist to me by todays political correctness standards.. :mrgreen:
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Spot on. How is Trump's comment got anything to do with racism? Didn't speak to any of that.

This political correctness, or rather the excess of it, isn't supported by the majority of the electorate.

According to the report, 25 percent of Americans are traditional or devoted conservatives, and their views are far outside the American mainstream. Some 8 percent of Americans are progressive activists, and their views are even less typical. By contrast, the two-thirds of Americans who don’t belong to either extreme constitute an “exhausted majority.” Their members “share a sense of fatigue with our polarized national conversation, a willingness to be flexible in their political viewpoints, and a lack of voice in the national conversation.”

Most members of the “exhausted majority,” and then some, dislike political correctness. Among the general population, a full 80 percent believe that “political correctness is a problem in our country.” Even young people are uncomfortable with it, including 74 percent ages 24 to 29, and 79 percent under age 24. On this particular issue, the woke are in a clear minority across all ages.
Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture - theatlantic.com
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As this excessive PC is driving up the temperature of the political rhetoric, at least in part, the assertion from the proponents, that it is wildly popular and supported, seems rather unsupported.

PS: Looks like the 'Like' system is down, so I'll give you a 'Like' this way.
 
eohrnberger said:
This political correctness, or rather the excess of it, isn't supported by the majority of the electorate.
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We'll find out on November 7th precisely what is and what isn't supported by the American people.
 
eohrnberger said:
Spot on. How is Trump's comment got anything to do with racism? Didn't speak to any of that.

This political correctness, or rather the excess of it, isn't supported by the majority of the electorate.



As this excessive PC is driving up the temperature of the political rhetoric, at least in part, the assertion from the proponents, that it is wildly popular and supported, seems rather unsupported.

PS: Looks like the 'Like' system is down, so I'll give you a 'Like' this way.
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Yes the President complementing a terrorist traitor for his adeptness at killing Americans is just a matter of "political correctness". It amazes me how far down the rabbit hole the right has gone.
 
iguanaman said:
Yes the President complementing a terrorist traitor for his adeptness at killing Americans is just a matter of "political correctness". It amazes me how far down the rabbit hole the right has gone.
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The comment spoke to whether General Robert E. Lee was a skilled general or not. The fact of the matter, as history shows, is that he was a very skilled general.

Your loading all your baggage into that comment shows how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.

Take another example.

General Erwin Rommel was also an excellent general, strategist and also an excellent field commander.
So now I'm a Nazi, right? :roll:

Beyond ridiculous this denial of historical facts.
Beyond ridiculous this insanity of excessive political correctness stupidity.
 
eohrnberger said:
The comment spoke to whether General Robert E. Lee was a skilled general or not. The fact of the matter, as history shows, is that he was a very skilled general.

Your loading all your baggage into that comment shows how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.

Take another example.

General Erwin Rommel was also an excellent general, strategist and also an excellent field commander.
So now I'm a Nazi, right? :roll:

Beyond ridiculous this denial of historical facts.
Beyond ridiculous this insanity of excessive political correctness stupidity.
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The New Dark Age is picking up steam.
 
eohrnberger said:
The comment spoke to whether General Robert E. Lee was a skilled general or not. The fact of the matter, as history shows, is that he was a very skilled general.

Your loading all your baggage into that comment shows how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.

Take another example.

General Erwin Rommel was also an excellent general, strategist and also an excellent field commander.
So now I'm a Nazi, right? :roll:

Beyond ridiculous this denial of historical facts.
Beyond ridiculous this insanity of excessive political correctness stupidity.
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Agreed.
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Some forget to look at the context of what is being said. All some see is General Lee. Therefore it must be something to do with racism.

imo, the press continues to play a role in fostering the "race" issue. imo, schools did a better job of instructing about American history in the late 50's and 60's than they do now. Seems some want to keep the "race" issue alive for political reasons.
 
I don't believe intentional, but it's a dog whistle. That should be obvious by the result if not the remarks themselves.
 
eohrnberger said:
The comment spoke to whether General Robert E. Lee was a skilled general or not. The fact of the matter, as history shows, is that he was a very skilled general.

Your loading all your baggage into that comment shows how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.

Take another example.

General Erwin Rommel was also an excellent general, strategist and also an excellent field commander.
So now I'm a Nazi, right? :roll:

Beyond ridiculous this denial of historical facts.
Beyond ridiculous this insanity of excessive political correctness stupidity.
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Still our Presidents don't glorify traitors or Nazi's as a rule. Would you call Bin Laden a brilliant strategist for his success on 911? Should we build statues of him? Lee's prowess as a General is marred by his foolish belief that the South ever had a chance at winning. A really good General would have known that you would think.

The myth of Lee goes something like this: He was a brilliant strategist and devoted Christian man who abhorred slavery and labored tirelessly after the war to bring the country back together.

There is little truth in this. Lee was a devout Christian, and historians regard him as an accomplished tactician. But despite his ability to win individual battles, his decision to fight a conventional war against the more densely populated and industrialized North is considered by many historians to have been a fatal strategic error.

But even if one conceded Lee’s military prowess, he would still be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in defense of the South’s authority to own millions of human beings as property because they are black. Lee’s elevation is a key part of a 150-year-old propaganda campaign designed to erase slavery as the cause of the war and whitewash the Confederate cause as a noble one. That ideology is known as the Lost Cause, and as historian David Blight writes, it provided a “foundation on which Southerners built the Jim Crow system.”
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/
 
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iguanaman said:
Yes the President complementing a terrorist traitor for his adeptness at killing Americans is just a matter of "political correctness". It amazes me how far down the rabbit hole the right has gone.
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Lee was neither a terrorist or a traitor. If you apply the standards of Geneva convention he was a uniformed soldier fighting for a recognized belligerent in a general war
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Lee was neither a terrorist or a traitor. If you apply the standards of Geneva convention he was a uniformed soldier fighting for a recognized belligerent in a general war
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He also wasn't such a good General if he didn't know his war was lost before it started. He is directly responsible for the reprisals reaped on the south by Union Generals too.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Lee was neither a terrorist or a traitor. If you apply the standards of Geneva convention he was a uniformed soldier fighting for a recognized belligerent in a general war
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Lee was not a terrorist. Lee definitely was a traitor. The textbook definition of a traitor, in fact. He was stripped of his citizenship for taking up arms against his fellow countrymen and their duly elected government. It wasn't restored until over 100 years later.

And he was a brilliant tactical general, but he dicked the dog on more than one occasion and his overly aggressive and incoherent strategy cost the South the War by 1863. He was intent on invading the North when he should have been reinforcing in Virginia, and Gettysburg was a disaster of his own making. Meanwhile Grant was capturing Vicksburg, splitting the confederacy in two, and later Union victories at Chattanooga and Atlanta paved the way for Sherman's march to the sea. Sherman and Grant were far superior military strategists than Lee. Which is among the chief reasons for the North's ultimate victory.
 
Do I care what this person whom I know not at all and whom I have no reason to think is special thinks?

Not Really.
 
Once again, the MSM cherry picks Trump's words and twists them into a pretzel to stir the hate. Trump was referring to Lee in a speech that ultimately was praising Grant.

Even NBC was forced to correct the record.

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CORRECTION: An earlier tweet misidentified the general President Trump described as "incredible" at a rally in Ohio. It was Gen. Ulysses S. Grant, not Gen. Robert E. Lee. An attached video clip lacked the full context for Trump's remark. Here is the full clip. pic.twitter.com/NZHj3Q2dHL
 
Rogue Valley said:
Robert E. Lee Descendant Slams Trump Over Praise For Confederate General

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Rob Lee



Get out and vote on November 6th folks. Don't allow Donald Trump and the GOP to resurrect racial divisions in this great nation of all colors and ethnicities.
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Somebody should tell that descendant that he, too, is lacking listening comprehension ... the same as NBC.


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CORRECTION: An earlier tweet misidentified the general President Trump described as "incredible" at a rally in Ohio. It was Gen. Ulysses S. Grant, not Gen. Robert E. Lee. An attached video clip lacked the full context for Trump's remark. Here is the full clip.
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LincolnRossiter said:
Lee was not a terrorist. Lee definitely was a traitor. The textbook definition of a traitor, in fact. He was stripped of his citizenship for taking up arms against his fellow countrymen and their duly elected government. It wasn't restored until over 100 years later.

And he was a brilliant tactical general, but he dicked the dog on more than one occasion and his overly aggressive and incoherent strategy cost the South the War by 1863. He was intent on invading the North when he should have been reinforcing in Virginia, and Gettysburg was a disaster of his own making. Meanwhile Grant was capturing Vicksburg, splitting the confederacy in two, and later Union victories at Chattanooga and Atlanta paved the way for Sherman's march to the sea. Sherman and Grant were far superior military strategists than Lee. Which is among the chief reasons for the North's ultimate victory.
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Which is the point Trump was making.
 
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