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Republicans hoped voters would forget they tried to kill Obamacare. They bet wrong.

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Republicans hoped voters would forget they tried to kill Obamacare. They bet wrong.

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9/21/18
Sensitive to criticism for avoiding their constituents, some lawmakers have taken to holding a “don’t call us, we’ll call you” style of constituent meetings. They often label them town halls, but in reality they are either paid events or telephone calls with limited capacity where only “random” questions are accepted. Few sound satisfied with these interactions. It’s certainly not representative democracy at its finest. In fact this pattern of voting and ignoring their constituents is a decidedly odd-numbered year phenomenon. On Capitol Hill these odd-numbered years are referred to as off-years because they are non-election years for Congress. And, not surprisingly, they are when unpopular votes like ACA repeal often occur. Members can vote to end pre-existing condition protections and roll back health care coverage for 20 million Americans in an odd year, like 2017, and hope those votes will be forgotten by the time even years, like 2018, come along. This year, that strategy is not only backfiring for Republican members, it has produced much of the energy and even some of the candidates to unseat them.

10 Republican senators and 28 GOP House members recently signed on to bills that claim to offer pre-existing condition protections. Spoiler alert: they don't. The bills would, in fact, require insurance to be offered to people with pre-existing conditions. However, they wouldn’t require that insurance companies cover their actual pre-existing conditions. Consider it a classic even-year proposal — enough to campaign on, but nothing to govern with. The November midterms are in part a referendum on whether taking unpopular votes while avoiding constituents in non-election years is a strategy that works. It’s a bet members of Congress make against how much attention their constituents pay, what they remember, and whether they show up to vote. Historically that may have been a good bet. But 2018 is a chance for Americans to get it right.
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I haven't forgotten. Remember the secret GOP meetings behind closed doors? No public debate allowed and avoiding interviews and town halls?

If the GOP maintains a Congressional majority, the GOP will remove the healthcare insurance from Americans with pre-existing conditions.

They'll attack healthcare, gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIPs. They'll give additional tax breaks to their wealthy donors. Remember all this on November 6.

Related: Suddenly, Vulnerable House Republicans No Longer Bash Obamacare on Their Websites
 
The photo you show totally is opposite of your OP. A person can not call for government medical care while ranting keep government and politics out of healthcare.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Republicans hoped voters would forget they tried to kill Obamacare. They bet wrong.

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I haven't forgotten. Remember the secret GOP meetings behind closed doors? No public debate allowed and avoiding interviews and town halls?

If the GOP maintains a Congressional majority, the GOP will remove the healthcare insurance from Americans with pre-existing conditions.

They'll attack healthcare, gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIPs. They'll give additional tax breaks to their wealthy donors. Remember all this on November 6.

Related: Suddenly, Vulnerable House Republicans No Longer Bash Obamacare on Their Websites
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They ENDED THE MANDATE, thereby leaving it up to the citizens to CHOOSE.

GASP! OH, THE HUMANITY!!!


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Grokmaster said:
They ENDED THE MANDATE, thereby leaving it up to the citizens to CHOOSE.

GASP! OH, THE HUMANITY!!!
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Trivializing the fact that some people will die without proper healthcare? So much for your side being "pro-life." :roll:
 
Killing Obamacare was the GOP's only issue (other than the perennial calls for tax giveaways to the wealthy) for an entire decade. They can scrub their websites all their want, I think we know where they stand.

Even now they're in court battling to bring back pre-existing condition exclusions. Who are they trying to fool?
 
joko104 said:
The photo you show totally is opposite of your OP.
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Wrong. It is directed at your 'secret meetings' GOP. Not a very original try at whataboutism.

People haven't forgotten how the GOP tried to remove healthcare from 24 million Americans.
 
Phys251 said:
Trivializing the fact that some people will die without proper healthcare? So much for your side being "pro-life." :roll:
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Health insurance =/= healthcare.

TOTAL NON-SEQUITUR RESPONSE; COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to people being allowed to CHOOSE THE COVERAGE THEY WANT.


You prefer GOVERNMENT FORCING PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT THEY DO NOT WANT/NEED.

Fascist much?
 
Grokmaster said:
Health insurance =/= healthcare.
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Which is why some people want to throw out greedy health insurance companies and go straight to single-payer. Excellent point you just made! :thumbs:

TOTAL NON-SEQUITUR RESPONSE; COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to people being allowed to CHOOSE THE COVERAGE THEY WANT.


You prefer GOVERNMENT FORCING PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT THEY DO NOT WANT/NEED.
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STOP SHOUTING; it hurts your vocal cords.

Fascist much?
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:lamo
 
Phys251 said:
Trivializing the fact that some people will die without proper healthcare? So much for your side being "pro-life." :roll:
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Insurance is not healthCARE, it's a method of payment. Until something better gets put in place, people still can get healthCARE 24/7 at the ER.

The histrionics are entertaining, though.
 
Phys251 said:
Which is why some people want to throw out greedy health insurance companies and go straight to single-payer. Excellent point you just made! :thumbs:



STOP SHOUTING; it hurts your vocal cords.


:lamo
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So you think having the government handle healthcare payments is going to be beneficial to the people? Have you actually looked and reviewed the financials of other government run programs?
 
GottaGo said:
Insurance is not healthCARE, it's a method of payment. Until something better gets put in place, people still can get healthCARE 24/7 at the ER.
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By then it can be too late, medical care has come a long ways in the last 200 years. Not only that, but having ER as a primary care facility is idiotic.
 
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JustHanging said:
By then it can be too late, medical care has come a long ways in the last 200 years. Not only that, but having ER as a primary care facility is idiotic.
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There are better ways than the ER, but at least when they visit the ER, they actually receive CARE. Providing insurance doesn't provide CARE, it is a front loaded payment mechanism that does not do anything regarding their actual health.

How about actual facilities that provide CARE based on a sliding scale? It eliminates the 'middleman' of insurance, which should actually reduce costs, and can be funded a number of ways, and partially staffed with some interns who received a credit towards their tuition bill for hours worked. Just part on the plane I've been building.


What Id really like to see is the actual costs of healthcare being addressed. No one bothers with that, but one of the most profitable industries is healthcare. Time to start looking at why America spends so much, and gets so little.
 
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