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Pompeo to John Kerry: You had your day, now sit down and shut up

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John Kerry is still trying to make love with the Iranians in open defiance of American law and disregard for American policy. Will this idiot ever shut up and sit down?
 
marke said:
John Kerry is still trying to make love with the Iranians in open defiance of American law and disregard for American policy. Will this idiot ever shut up and sit down?
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I don't recall anybody telling Henry Kissinger to sit down and shut up. Pompeo's claim that "Kerry's actions are unprecedented" are laughably absurd.
 
jnug said:
I don't recall anybody telling Henry Kissinger to sit down and shut up. Pompeo's claim that "Kerry's actions are unprecedented" are laughably absurd.
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What are you referring to regarding Kissinger? Please point out where he was working with a foreign nation against any administration's policy.
 
John Kerry is attempting to keep the coalition focused and the Iranians from violating the JCPOA.

Trump will be out of office in two years.

The US, the coalition J5+1 nations and Iran have been working on this deal since the mid-80s.

The world should not lose this agreement for the lack of judgement in 2016.
 
Donald Trump failed to get the coalition nations on board with his non-plan...plan.
 
1751Texan said:
Donald Trump failed to get the coalition nations on board with his non-plan...plan.
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So you have a problem with his not working closely with Russia and China.
 
marke said:
John Kerry is still trying to make love with the Iranians in open defiance of American law and disregard for American policy. Will this idiot ever shut up and sit down?
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Like I say, leftists never know when to shut up.
 
washunut said:
What are you referring to regarding Kissinger? Please point out where he was working with a foreign nation against any administration's policy.
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Kissenger arranged for North Vietnam to refuse to come to the peace table with the Johnson administration so that the Johnson administration would not have ending the Vietnam War as a feather in its cap heading into the elections. Try THAT one on for size. He was not even the Sec of State at that point. He was just Nixon's front man going into the 68 election. Kissinger promised the N. Viets that Nixon would give them a better deal and cut the knees out from under the Johnson administration efforts. How many guys died needlessly because the N. Viets were convinced to walk away from the Johnson administration.

Kissenger was never shy about stepping in for "republic foreign policy" both before and after he was Sec of State. Frankly the Viet war interference is the grand poobah of outside interference. So Pompeo needs to get out a history book. You should try one on for size as well.
 
Kerry is keeping his name relevant for a 2020 run by all means necessary. He knew the 2016 nomination was predetermined so stayed out of the race. With Clinton a washed up looser he knows the 2020 field is open.

He will campaign on this as working towards world peace.
 
marke said:
John Kerry is still trying to make love with the Iranians in open defiance of American law and disregard for American policy. Will this idiot ever shut up and sit down?
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There is one idiot relative to the above quote who ought to shut up.
 
jnug said:
I don't recall anybody telling Henry Kissinger to sit down and shut up. Pompeo's claim that "Kerry's actions are unprecedented" are laughably absurd.
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No they are not. There are laws against private American citizens conducting foreign policy meetings without specific authorization from the US Secretary of State.
 
1751Texan said:
John Kerry is attempting to keep the coalition focused and the Iranians from violating the JCPOA.

Trump will be out of office in two years.

The US, the coalition J5+1 nations and Iran have been working on this deal since the mid-80s.

The world should not lose this agreement for the lack of judgement in 2016.
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Democrats erroneously think America should be run by defacto democrat officials as if in exile, instead of governed by duly elected leaders.
 
1751Texan said:
Donald Trump failed to get the coalition nations on board with his non-plan...plan.
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So? Does that mean democrat leaders in collusion with world leaders who oppose America and its representative government should commit sedition, espionage, or treason for the good of the world in their biased leftist eyes?
 
jnug said:
Kissenger arranged for North Vietnam to refuse to come to the peace table with the Johnson administration so that the Johnson administration would not have ending the Vietnam War as a feather in its cap heading into the elections. Try THAT one on for size. He was not even the Sec of State at that point. He was just Nixon's front man going into the 68 election. Kissinger promised the N. Viets that Nixon would give them a better deal and cut the knees out from under the Johnson administration efforts. How many guys died needlessly because the N. Viets were convinced to walk away from the Johnson administration.

Kissenger was never shy about stepping in for "republic foreign policy" both before and after he was Sec of State. Frankly the Viet war interference is the grand poobah of outside interference. So Pompeo needs to get out a history book. You should try one on for size as well.
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Let's see what Wikipedia's article on Henry Kissinger said about all of this:

Kissinger's involvement in Indochina started prior to his appointment as National Security Advisor to Nixon. While still at Harvard, he had worked as a consultant on foreign policy to both the White House and State Department. Kissinger says that "In August 1965... [Henry Cabot Lodge], an old friend serving as Ambassador to Saigon, had asked me to visit Vietnam as his consultant. I toured Vietnam first for two weeks in October and November 1965, again for about 10 days in July 1966, and a third time for a few days October 1966 ...

Kissinger had authorization, Kerry did not.
 
Chillfolks said:
Kerry is keeping his name relevant for a 2020 run by all means necessary. He knew the 2016 nomination was predetermined so stayed out of the race. With Clinton a washed up looser he knows the 2020 field is open.

He will campaign on this as working towards world peace.
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Kerry has a big head and a big ego but he is short on sensing the desires of the majority of Americans, just like Hillary was.
 
jnug said:
Kissenger arranged for North Vietnam to refuse to come to the peace table with the Johnson administration so that the Johnson administration would not have ending the Vietnam War as a feather in its cap heading into the elections. Try THAT one on for size. He was not even the Sec of State at that point. He was just Nixon's front man going into the 68 election. Kissinger promised the N. Viets that Nixon would give them a better deal and cut the knees out from under the Johnson administration efforts. How many guys died needlessly because the N. Viets were convinced to walk away from the Johnson administration.

Kissenger was never shy about stepping in for "republic foreign policy" both before and after he was Sec of State. Frankly the Viet war interference is the grand poobah of outside interference. So Pompeo needs to get out a history book. You should try one on for size as well.
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Your answer needs to be in the CT section.
 
marke said:
Let's see what Wikipedia's article on Henry Kissinger said about all of this:

Kissinger's involvement in Indochina started prior to his appointment as National Security Advisor to Nixon. While still at Harvard, he had worked as a consultant on foreign policy to both the White House and State Department. Kissinger says that "In August 1965... [Henry Cabot Lodge], an old friend serving as Ambassador to Saigon, had asked me to visit Vietnam as his consultant. I toured Vietnam first for two weeks in October and November 1965, again for about 10 days in July 1966, and a third time for a few days October 1966 ...



Kissinger had authorization, Kerry did not.
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He didn't have authorization to work for a shadow President or a shadow government. This is a matter of history as there are now notations from HR Haldeman's records. Kissinger informed Nixon that there was a peace deal in the works with S.V, N.V and the US. H.R. Haldeman arranged to have hard line Republican and long time entity in Asia Anna Chennault work on Nguyen Van Thieu to convince him that Johnson would sell him out and that was the end of that. What good purpose did Henry Kissenger have to tell Candidate Richard Nixon that there was a deal in the works between the three parties? Then did Kissenger suddenly go blind as Chennault worked her way with Thieu?
 
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jnug said:
He didn't have authorization to work for a shadow President or a shadow government. This is a matter of history as there are now notations from HR Haldeman's records. Kissinger informed Nixon that there was a peace deal in the works with S.V, N.V and the US. H.R. Haldeman arranged to have hard line Republican and long time entity in Asia Anna Chennault work on Nguyen Van Thieu to convince him that Johnson would sell him out and that was the end of that. What good purpose did Henry Kissenger have to tell Candidate Richard Nixon that there was a deal in the works between the three parties? Then did Kissenger suddenly go blind as Chennault worked her way with Thieu?
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You may not like the fact that Johnson started the war and profited from the war, and you may not like the fact that the Johnson administration is responsible for Kissinger's initial involvement in the war, but don't blame Nixon for all the factors which caused the US to lose the war.
 
marke said:
You may not like the fact that Johnson started the war and profited from the war, and you may not like the fact that the Johnson administration is responsible for Kissinger's initial involvement in the war, but don't blame Nixon for all the factors which caused the US to lose the war.
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What are you talking about? I have no idea where that came from. Jesus H. Christ.
 
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