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Democrats in panic mode over Trump's declassification of partisan FBI documents

ultmd said:
Yes, we will. And when that happens, you and your ilk will do what you always do: slink away from the subject quietly, and move on to your next bat-crap crazy right-wing conspiracy theory. We've all seen this play many times before, and it almost ALWAYS ends the same, veritas.

As for the moment, the difference between your side and mine is clear. My side has all of the available facts, as well as recent history, on our side.

Your side has the fake news and bat-crap crazy conspiracy theories.
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Save this post for later so you can come back and tell me what went wrong. FWIW, I shun conspiracy theories as a rule but sometimes there is so much stink that you simply have to investigate. The virulent Trump hate got the best of some very high ranking people. It's unfortunate but true.
 
jnug said:
Oh yea...Mueller is just panting to stay ahead of nitwits like Nunes, Meadows and Jordan. Your dreaming. The biggest threat to Mueller from the Hill is that post November Trump fires Sessions and brings somebody in that can control Mueller and Rosenstein. Thats it. They have no fear of congressional nitwits like those you mentioned.

Justice Dept fears what nitwits like that will do to institutions of government in their boot licking support of Trump. Other than that, they are a sideshow of a sideshow.
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Yeah...Mueller is Superman...other than his history of PROSECUTORIAL/INVESTIGATIVE BUFFOONERY, that is.


Blocked the 9/11 probe.


Cost the taxpayers $ millions in damages over his prosecutorial misconduct, and asinine , relentless PERSECUTION of the WRONG MAN in the anthrax case....


Yeah...he's a "wunderkind" alright....
 
UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS created their own Little Cabal, and set about try to BLOCK/IMPAIR the presidential campaign of the guy they "didn't want", and , when that failed, they set about trying to unseat his duly-elected Presidency.


This is the very DEFINITION of SEDITOUS CONSPIRACY....
 
jnug said:
You don't get it. As yet what you call proof of wrongdoing isn't proof of anything. Thats for starters and is hardly the most significant issue here.

Again, I am not using this analogy for fun. I do little at this site for fun. You are attempting to pour cream and sugar into a cup, taste it and then advance a verdict on the coffee you have not as yet even poured into the mix. Its that simple. The actual result of the investigation assuming one is capable of critical thinking is the first and most relevant element of a determination of the voracity of the investigation and the investigators. Not capable of critical thinking, with all due respect, calm down, zip it and leave the issue to people that are capable.

What by the way do you think is going to happen once this investigation ends. Even if Trump is implicated, do you rationalize that somebody is going to rush the WH, carry him out and tar and feather him? Do you imagine that if Don Jr is implicated that somebody will rush Trump Tower and drag him out by the heels?

At most, assuming the Dems take the House in November what we will get is actual functioning committees with real hearings as opposed to the shams we have had and do have. If indictments and eventual prosecutions were to start that very day v Don Jr or Roger Stone you can count on 6 months to a year before getting such a trail into court.....long enough to try to pull apart the material resulting from this investigation. They would have to be proven guilty for one thing. As for Impeachment, plan 18 months to two years from November if it were called for at all. Even if Impeachment is successful it requires a supermajority vote of the Senate for removal.

So again I ask what the heck do you folks on the other side of this discussion actually think you are doing huffing and snorting about getting access to this material now besides engaging in some prurient fantasy? The entire bunch of you are Putin's and Trump's pawns and you don't even know it. Trump does not care what institutions of this government he burns to the ground in his insane narcissistic impulse to fight about everything and Putin is just gleeful about it.
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We already have plenty of evidence of wrongdoing within the FBI with Strzok's and Page's emails, among those from dozens of others. Claiming they are innocent before the investigators are done investigation is wrong.
 
ultmd said:
It's a very simple question based upon the FACT that 40% of all GOP'ers already hold favorable views about Putin. The question is....are you one of them. So again, I'll ask you the question. Would you support Putin, or any Democrat?

Why are you so afraid to answer it?

So will many other self-professed Christians and other Trump acolytes who use their professed faith as a shield (or battering ram) to rationalize/justify their own personal feelings of bigotry, fear and ignorance.
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I would definitely support Putin or a democrat if the sinner repented of his sins and sought Jesus for salvation in truth.
 
jnug said:
Documents they don't deserve because however kindly they ask and IT HAS NOT BEEN KINDLY, they are asking for documents that they should not have and that have NEVER been turned over before.
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Denying Congress access to documents might have some validity if not for the unredacted documents already exposing the criminal activities of Hillary supporters in the FBI from the last administration. Rosenstein claimed the redactions were for national security but it turned out the redactions were not related to national security at all. They were redacted to cover the criminal butts of Hillary supporters from the last administration.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
We already know why they thought surveillance was needed and that it was completely justified.
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Whoever "You" people think you are you don't know squat because the facts are still being hidden by Rod Redactenstein of Obama's former corrupt law enforcement agencies.
 
apdst said:
Has Mueller decided on an actual crime, yet? Or, is he still going with "collusion"?
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Mueller's role isn't so much to find Trump campaign / Russia collusion. Trump campaign / Russia collusion is a fiction sold to the gullible TDS crowd.

Mueller's real role is to protect those corrupt in Obama's DOJ, FBI and higher up in the administration by keeping the public's attention on anything but those people and what they have done.
 
veritas1 said:
Save this post for later so you can come back and tell me what went wrong.
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I won't need to. I'll be the one reminding you of your previous stupidity, while you run from and/or deny the facts again.

FWIW, I shun conspiracy theories as a rule but sometimes there is so much stink that you simply have to investigate. The virulent Trump hate got the best of some very high ranking people. It's unfortunate but true.
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FWIW, you're not being honest. You are a Trump acolyte. Almost by that very definition, you devour every new bat-crap crazy conspiracy theory that bubbles up from the bowels of the conservative blogosphere. This thread, with the several different bat-crap crazy conspiracy theory mentions (i.e. Strzok-Paige sabotage/crime....the "secret" FISA Court spying on Carter Page....the "embarrassing" info to come from Trump's recent declassification order....etc.) is just the latest example.

And the additional reality, i.e. that you were also among the bat-crap crazy crowd that supported/believed in all the other bat-crap crazy right-wing conspiracy theories I mentioned (i.e. Benghazi, Clinton emails, IRS scandal, Fast and Furious, Birtherism, etc. etc. etc.) would suggest that you are, indeed, a rabid right wing conspiracy theorist.

It's just part of being a right winger.
 
marke said:
I would definitely support Putin or a democrat if the sinner repented of his sins and sought Jesus for salvation in truth.
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That's funny, of course, because you supported the ONLY candidate in the last presidential election (Trump) who ADMITTEDLY has never sought Jesus for salvation and is not a practicing Christian....and you voted against the ONLY candidate (Clinton) who was/is both an acknowledged believer and a practicing Christian.

So, once again, your Christianist schtick just doesn't pass muster.

You're an ideologue. A right wing, religious conservative ideologue. And you HIDE behind your professed faith in order to justify some very UN-Chrisitian personal views.

But at least you've finally admitted that you would support a hostile foreign dictator....an avowed enemy of the U.S and everything that our country stands for.....rather than a Democrat. That places you squarely in the middle of the modern conservative movement in America. That doesn't say much about you and your ilk, but at least it sets the record straight.
 
apdst said:
Has Mueller decided on an actual crime, yet? Or, is he still going with "collusion"?
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Hell, he's still fishing for small fry.
 
marke said:
Whoever "You" people think you are you don't know squat because the facts are still being hidden by Rod Redactenstein of Obama's former corrupt law enforcement agencies.
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LOL! OK, I'll play. You made the claim, you back it up. What facts are they 'hiding' and how are they hiding them?

Don't run off like you usually do.
 
marke said:
We already have plenty of evidence of wrongdoing within the FBI with Strzok's and Page's emails, among those from dozens of others. Claiming they are innocent before the investigators are done investigation is wrong.
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That is not evidence. It might if you squint quite a bit make a low grade of circumstantial evidence at best. You have no clue what evidence is, obviously.

Justice can take Strzok to court if they want. They will lose and that will be that.
 
ultmd said:
That's funny, of course, because you supported the ONLY candidate in the last presidential election (Trump) who ADMITTEDLY has never sought Jesus for salvation and is not a practicing Christian....and you voted against the ONLY candidate (Clinton) who was/is both an acknowledged believer and a practicing Christian.
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Yes, I will vote for a sinner who supports Christian conservative ideals long before I will support a devil dog that claims to be a Christian while destroying everything real Christians stand for. I did not vote for the dog's cur husband either for exactly the same reasons.
 
jnug said:
That is not evidence. It might if you squint quite a bit make a low grade of circumstantial evidence at best. You have no clue what evidence is, obviously.

Justice can take Strzok to court if they want. They will lose and that will be that.
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You really can’t be so irrational to think that Strzok’s emails and texts aren’t evidence. TDS is one hell of a condition.
 
marke said:
Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff and Sens. Chuck Schumer and Mark Warner, sent a letter Tuesday asking Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to stop Trump from exposing the truth to conservative lawmakers and the American people.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/18/democrats-trump-declassification/?htm_medium=email
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I don't know what's going on internally, but the rest of the world is laughing at the clown, and the circus by extension.

Jerusalem:
America the laughingstock

England:
Trump Has Made America Into A Laughingstock

Canada:
The year the world laughed at U.S.

Europe:
European diplomats: Trump is a 'laughing stock'

Germany:
'People here think Trump is a laughingstock'

USA:
Trump is making America the laughingstock of the world
 
Aberration said:
You really can’t be so irrational to think that Strzok’s emails and texts aren’t evidence. TDS is one hell of a condition.
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NO they are not evidence. At best if you squint looking at them, they might be circumstantial evidence. You don't know what evidence is, obviously.
 
marke said:
If you are worrying about secrets getting out you must be worried stiff about Samantha Powers' unmasking of hundreds of innocent Americans spied on by the Obama team. And you must be sick after finding out that Chinese intelligence was capturing every transaction Hillary made from her unsecured server as she conducted her pay to play bribery, extortion, influence peddling and money laundering foreign tours as SOS.
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You are so busy trying to get your point across you didn't bother to even comprehend what I said. So let my break it down for you.
I hope Trump declassifies everything. I hope the patriots have time to get back to the US and find other jobs. If there is dirt on Obama, Hillary let it all come out.

As for your last line I believe we have someone even more powerful than a SOS using pay for play, extortion, influence peddling and money laundering...are you okay if that comes out to?

I want everything out....but somehow even when it does (not that it ever will) ALL come out I think you'll only believe what you want.
 
marke said:
Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff and Sens. Chuck Schumer and Mark Warner, sent a letter Tuesday asking Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to stop Trump from exposing the truth to conservative lawmakers and the American people.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/18/democrats-trump-declassification/?htm_medium=email
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It turns out Trump did not even read the documents he has ordered declassified. Scary stuff. Forget Democrats. You should be the one in a panic, if you actually cared about your country’s national security.

Trump ordered the government to declassify information he apparently hasn?t read
 
JustHanging said:
I don't know what's going on internally, but the rest of the world is laughing at the clown, and the circus by extension.

Jerusalem:
America the laughingstock

England:
Trump Has Made America Into A Laughingstock

Canada:
The year the world laughed at U.S.

Europe:
European diplomats: Trump is a 'laughing stock'

Germany:
'People here think Trump is a laughingstock'

USA:
Trump is making America the laughingstock of the world
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Countries whose governments are fashioned after socialist ideals think America is wrong and they mock our freedom and independence from authoritarian big government rule.
 
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