Trump orders feds to declassify key FISA documents, text messages in FBI Russia probe

Mach · Sep 21, 2018

Grokmaster said:
How so? WE do not know what was ACTUALLY TOLD and NOT TOLD to the FISA court(s); we do not know is there was even a REMOTELY LEGIT basis for the foundation of the Witch Hunt, under Mueller.

There is an EXTREME LIKLIHOOD that exculpatory evidence was withheld, and other "evidence" FABRICATED/MISREPRESENTED, which are just TWO of the many possible crimes hidden in the documents that the KGB-FBI/DOJ has been HIDING.

You sound like a propagandist, complete with the capitalization strangeness, and...KGB-FBI?

I mean, I don't see why anyone should respond to you or take you seriously based on that and your others posts.

MrShangles · Sep 21, 2018

jnug said:
Because it puts US intelligence and Investigative officers at risk. Do you not care? These are the people that keep us safe from terrorism and all sorts of other mayhem. Worse, Intelligence is an allied effort between the US and its NATO and other allies. Is a foreign officer going to be willing to pass on valuable data to us if we are going to expose information that some bad guy recognizes via methods or sources could have only come from him? What happens to that guy or is that somebody else you just don't care about in this absurd inane, prurient desire to peck and poke where you don't belong. Do you think the counter-intelligence officers of adversaries sit there in their barcaloungers and just read throw the stuff you want to release with some casual curiosity? These people know what they are doing and know how to reverse engineer what we are doing from that material.

Wait for the results of the investigation and use the results as the first arbiter of the voracity of the investigation and the investigators. If you don't have the critical thinking skills to view material in that context or are so ideologically committed that it simply overrides any ability to reason......its not the country's problem. Its your problem.

You can peck and poke at the information that will come out in Discovery for any prosecutorial effort to your hearts content at that point. Knock your mind out. The Discovery documents for high profile cases are out there now almost as fast as they are handed from the prosecutors to the defense team. Hold your water and at the right time knock your mind out. Don't you think I will be?

You still won't get FISA warrants to look at well you should not. But you will get the actual results of the investigation, the most relevant material you can review when trying to determine the voracity of an investigation or the investigators.

All I can say, you’re gobbling up everything Brennon tells you, what national security is going to be compromised, text messages between FBI about how much they want to end Trump, or how to spy on a American citizen.
But keep sucking the cool aid and get ready it’s coming. LOL

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MrShangles · Sep 21, 2018

jnug said:
So now, what Trump calls " two really good allies" though its hard to figure out what and who Trump considers really good allies, have called him expressing concerns about one of the exact things I mentioned, that THEIR people will be exposed by this documents release nonsense. Trump's comment as a result suggests that he is going to slow this process down but as usual Trump cannot resist the opportunity to salve his wounded base by saying "don't worry, eventually it all all come out".

So tell me Donald are THEIR people more important than OUR people. Are you really so obtuse, do utterly devoid of understanding for your responsibility as the Chief Executive of the Country, so completely wrapped up in your own self-aggransizement and personal political fortunes that you simply ignored the obvious about releasing these documents and likely the advice of your own Intelligence agencies? It takes allies to break through that cracked dome of yours. Well thats encouraging Donald......NOT!!!!

All those documents have been subpoenaed for a year now but they are trying to slow walk it, so Trump unclogged it

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Grokmaster · Sep 21, 2018

jnug said:
Possibly you might consider resisting the temptation to post until you return from orbiting one of Jupiter's moons.

A rebuttal requires ADDRESSING THE POINTS SPECIIFICALLY...except in the DP 4th Grade Posters club, apparently.

Grokmaster · Sep 21, 2018

MrShangles said:
All those documents have been subpoenaed for a year now but they are trying to slow walk it, so Trump unclogged it

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Should have a year ago...

jnug · Sep 21, 2018

Whoops ...it looks like somebody finally convinced Trump that he was stepping on his dick here. You can read it another way if you like. Your milage may vary depending on the motor you have under the hood and between the ears. Some of the motors here at DP are frankly not running too good.

Grokmaster · Sep 21, 2018

jnug said:
Whoops ...it looks like somebody finally convinced Trump that he was stepping on his dick here. You can read it another way if you like. Your milage may vary depending on the motor you have under the hood and between the ears. Some of the motors here at DP are frankly not running too good.

" On Friday, Trump said that instead of moving forward immediately, the department's inspector general had been asked to review these documents on an "expedited basis." He tweeted that he believes the office, which is already reviewing FBI actions in the early stages of the Russia probe, will move quickly.

The president also noted: "In the end I can always declassify if it proves necessary. Speed is very important to me - and everyone!" Trump added.

"Trump signaled a slowdown in an interview with Fox News on Thursday, when he said that several close allies had called to raise concerns about his decision to order the release of unredacted documents, which also include text messages of several FBI and Justice Department officials — including former FBI Director James Comey and ex-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, both fired by the president — whom the president has for months personally attacked.

"And we do have to respect their wishes," he said in the interview. "But it'll come out."

Sorry...there will be no reprieve for the coup plotters....

jnug · Sep 21, 2018

Grokmaster said:
" On Friday, Trump said that instead of moving forward immediately, the department's inspector general had been asked to review these documents on an "expedited basis." He tweeted that he believes the office, which is already reviewing FBI actions in the early stages of the Russia probe, will move quickly.

The president also noted: "In the end I can always declassify if it proves necessary. Speed is very important to me - and everyone!" Trump added.

"Trump signaled a slowdown in an interview with Fox News on Thursday, when he said that several close allies had called to raise concerns about his decision to order the release of unredacted documents, which also include text messages of several FBI and Justice Department officials — including former FBI Director James Comey and ex-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, both fired by the president — whom the president has for months personally attacked.

"And we do have to respect their wishes," he said in the interview. "But it'll come out."

Sorry...there will be no reprieve for the coup plotters....

Don't hold your breadth. Trumps "it will all come out" comment was the bone he had to throw his base. Obviously you leapt right up there to catch it.

Grokmaster · Sep 21, 2018

jnug said:
Don't hold your breadth. Trumps "it will all come out" comment was the bone he had to throw his base. Obviously you leapt right up there to catch it.

Why are you AGAINST the TRUTH BEING KNOWN?

jnug · Sep 21, 2018

Grokmaster said:
Why are you AGAINST the TRUTH BEING KNOWN?

I am not opposed to truth. I am opposed to ignorance and Barcalounger Conspiracy Theorists putting lives at risk for no reason. Trump simply sees this as an opportunity for personal political gain, his sycophants in Congress see this as an opportunity for political gain and the Barcalounger Conspiracy Theorists see this as an opportunity to make believe they know what they will be reading and will try to build on their Conspiracy Theories from it. Frankly based on the Critical Thinking skills expressed by this crowd in this thread, the chances of that crowd gleaning anything of value from the FISA Warrants is next to zero.

Grokmaster · Sep 22, 2018

jnug said:
I am not opposed to truth. I am opposed to ignorance and Barcalounger Conspiracy Theorists putting lives at risk for no reason. Trump simply sees this as an opportunity for personal political gain, his sycophants in Congress see this as an opportunity for political gain and the Barcalounger Conspiracy Theorists see this as an opportunity to make believe they know what they will be reading and will try to build on their Conspiracy Theories from it. Frankly based on the Critical Thinking skills expressed by this crowd in this thread, the chances of that crowd gleaning anything of value from the FISA Warrants is next to zero.

The only "conspiracy theory" is the concerted effort of you and yours to IGNORE/DOWNPLAY/DENY the MOUNTAIN OF EVDIENCE of the ACTUAL CONSPIRACY to interfere with the election of, and when that failed, to undermine the Presidency of Donald Trump.

To still try to deny it , or try to characterize it as you do, at this point, requires a deliberate refusal to accept the KNOWN FACTS, and a continued effort to BLOCK the RELEASE OF THE ENTIRE BODY OF EVIDENCE REGARDING IT...as you are also doing.

You're "not against the Truth coming out", unless it's a Truth YOU DON'T WANT KNOWN....just like the Obama Swamp leadership of the KGB-FBI/DOJ...whose collective ass is headed for the wringer...and they know it.

jnug · Sep 22, 2018

Grokmaster said:
The only "conspiracy theory" is the concerted effort of you and yours to IGNORE/DOWNPLAY/DENY the MOUNTAIN OF EVDIENCE of the ACTUAL CONSPIRACY to interfere with the election of, and when that failed, to undermine the Presidency of Donald Trump.

To still try to deny it , or try to characterize it as you do, at this point, requires a deliberate refusal to accept the KNOWN FACTS, and a continued effort to BLOCK the RELEASE OF THE ENTIRE BODY OF EVIDENCE REGARDING IT...as you are also doing.

You're "not against the Truth coming out", unless it's a Truth YOU DON'T WANT KNOWN....just like the Obama Swamp leadership of the KGB-FBI/DOJ...whose collective ass is headed for the wringer...and they know it.

You have learned the art of projection well from the grand master of projection, Donald Trump.

That said, there is no process of understanding the voracity of investigations or investigators that starts with pawing through classified documents like this. So the entire premise is outed for what it is right from jump street.

Grokmaster · Sep 22, 2018

jnug said:
You have learned the art of projection well from the grand master of projection, Donald Trump.

That said, there is no process of understanding the voracity of investigations or investigators that starts with pawing through classified documents like this. So the entire premise is outed for what it is right from jump street.

And you have learned the art of DEFLECTION. What else , besides the documents detailing the FISA warrant(s), ( that the Obama Swamp KGB-FBI/DOJ most assuredly LIED TO OBTAIN), and all upper echelon internal communications regarding their plot to obstruct the Trump Campaign, and then, when that failed UNSEAT the duly-elected POTUS, should be RELEASED, to get to the TRUTH of the matter?

Maybe we should INTERVIEW MMA FIGHTERS, BEAUTY PAGEANT CONTESTANTS from YEARS AGO, or the Obama Swamp's FINANCIAL DEALINGS from OVER A DECADE AGO, huh?

As I said, you, like the rest of the demleft LIAR/CONSPIRATORS, oppose the Truth coming out about this outrage, as you prove with every silly post you make.