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Distributions of wealth in this country

jbander

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You can't give all the new wealth of a country to just a few golden few. Capitalism dies when the incentive of the possibility to get ahead is taken away. Which it has been the case since 1981. I would like the greatest most powerful richest country in the world, to stay capitalistic and a Republic. Not caring about the fact that the golden few get it all and in no way deserve it all is selling out my country.
 
You can't give all the new wealth of a country to just a few golden few. Capitalism dies when the incentive of the possibility to get ahead is taken away. Which it has been the case since 1981. I would like the greatest most powerful richest country in the world, to stay capitalistic and a Republic. Not caring about the fact that the golden few get it all and in no way deserve it all is selling out my country.

I am all for more people getting more wealth, I really am. I do think the rich have too much money. However I do not support taking money from one person to give it to another. If you want to see wealth distributed more evenly then stop giving money to the uber wealthy. The poor and middle class of this country line up in droves to give money freely to those at the top.
 
You can't give all the new wealth of a country to just a few golden few. Capitalism dies when the incentive of the possibility to get ahead is taken away. Which it has been the case since 1981. I would like the greatest most powerful richest country in the world, to stay capitalistic and a Republic. Not caring about the fact that the golden few get it all and in no way deserve it all is selling out my country.

Hmm... if capitalism died in 1981 then how are we (still?) the greatest, most powerful, richest country in the world?
 
I am all for more people getting more wealth, I really am. I do think the rich have too much money. However I do not support taking money from one person to give it to another. If you want to see wealth distributed more evenly then stop giving money to the uber wealthy. The poor and middle class of this country line up in droves to give money freely to those at the top.
I'm for every company and every owner earning everything they deserve but all the new wealth of this country is in no way reasonable and in fact is not in the best interest of this country. They are getting it all because of tax laws and tax rates, we have 100% control of that. Who do you think in this country made those tax laws and rates as they are.
 
Hmm... if capitalism died in 1981 then how are we (still?) the greatest, most powerful, richest country in the world?
Who in the hell said that capitalism died in 1981 if you keep on lying you will get a route out of here. Stupid questions get no answer in my world
 
I'm for every company and every owner earning everything they deserve but all the new wealth of this country is in no way reasonable and in fact is not in the best interest of this country. They are getting it all because of tax laws and tax rates, we have 100% control of that. Who do you think in this country made those tax laws and rates as they are.

They benefit from them - however - the majority of their money comes from transactions. Take the Walton family. Walmart brings in billions of dollars a year. People literally line up to hand them money and then complain that they have too much money. It is incredible. Some things are unavoidable like utilities but almost everything else you have a choice. The choices consumers make determine where that money goes. Consumers, more than any other factor, choose to increase the wealth gap.
 
Who in the hell said that capitalism died in 1981 if you keep on lying you will get a route out of here. Stupid questions get no answer in my world

You did:

Capitalism dies when the incentive of the possibility to get ahead is taken away. Which it has been the case since 1981.
 
I'm for every company and every owner earning everything they deserve but all the new wealth of this country is in no way reasonable and in fact is not in the best interest of this country. They are getting it all because of tax laws and tax rates, we have 100% control of that. Who do you think in this country made those tax laws and rates as they are.

Congress critters did that (bolded above). The sad part is that you, I or any other voter has the chance to vote for (or against) at most 3 of those 535 congress critters in any given election cycle. They now enjoy a re-election rate of over 90%, and are awash in campaign cash, so don't expect any changes in the near future.
 
They benefit from them - however - the majority of their money comes from transactions. Take the Walton family. Walmart brings in billions of dollars a year. People literally line up to hand them money and then complain that they have too much money. It is incredible. Some things are unavoidable like utilities but almost everything else you have a choice. The choices consumers make determine where that money goes. Consumers, more than any other factor, choose to increase the wealth gap.
I'm one of them complaining about any of this wealth accumulation that is totally made up by tax law and tax rate. They don't earn it , work harder for it or deserve it. Not in a Capitalistic country that wants to continue to exist. No one deserve all the new wealth of any country as has been the case in this country since 1981. You sitting on the sidelines while we lose this countries middle class and increase of the poor because all the new wealth going to the top is against the best interest of your country. Do you get this, no one deserves it all.
 
Congress critters did that (bolded above). The sad part is that you, I or any other voter has the chance to vote for (or against) at most 3 of those 535 congress critters in any given election cycle. They now enjoy a re-election rate of over 90%, and are awash in campaign cash, so don't expect any changes in the near future.
Just watch, historically there is only one party that will change this in the right direction. Like I said just watch, this hate group they call a party is doomed and that's the best thing that can happen for this country.
 
I am all for more people getting more wealth, I really am. I do think the rich have too much money. However I do not support taking money from one person to give it to another. If you want to see wealth distributed more evenly then stop giving money to the uber wealthy. The poor and middle class of this country line up in droves to give money freely to those at the top.

Its really simple. You take 5% of all corporation profits and deposit it into every single Americans bank account at the end of each month. Americans turn around and put that 5% right back into the best corporations that are worth shopping at. This becomes a tax for bad corporations and a boon for good corporations. Eventually all the bad corporations die. The better the economy the more Americans get paid and can turn around and spend it right back into the economy. This can make it so that even the homeless become members of the economy!

This might turn the ultra rich into putting their money into investments only but eventually they have to get on board the corporate froth train or the world will move on without um.

5% peoples tax on corporations. Paid DIRECTLY to the people's pesonal bank account each month. No political skimming. No reroute of funds for "emergencies". Its THE PEOPLE's. Period.

I mean they are able to build their own personal froth funds on us by demanding mandatory health insurance and mandatory car insurance, inflating the prices for much less work. So why dont we do it to them?
 
I'm one of them complaining about any of this wealth accumulation that is totally made up by tax law and tax rate. They don't earn it , work harder for it or deserve it. Not in a Capitalistic country that wants to continue to exist. No one deserve all the new wealth of any country as has been the case in this country since 1981. You sitting on the sidelines while we lose this countries middle class and increase of the poor because all the new wealth going to the top is against the best interest of your country. Do you get this, no one deserves it all.

No one has it all so that logic is flawed. Those that do have a lot have it because they did earn it or inherit it for the most part.
 
Its really simple. You take 5% of all corporation profits and deposit it into every single Americans bank account at the end of each month. Americans turn around and put that 5% right back into the best corporations that are worth shopping at. This becomes a tax for bad corporations and a boon for good corporations. Eventually all the bad corporations die. The better the economy the more Americans get paid and can turn around and spend it right back into the economy. This can make it so that even the homeless become members of the economy!

This might turn the ultra rich into putting their money into investments only but eventually they have to get on board the corporate froth train or the world will move on without um.

5% peoples tax on corporations. Paid DIRECTLY to the people's pesonal bank account each month. No political skimming. No reroute of funds for "emergencies". Its THE PEOPLE's. Period.

I mean they are able to build their own personal froth funds on us by demanding mandatory health insurance and mandatory car insurance, inflating the prices for much less work. So why dont we do it to them?

Everything is wrong with this. First you are taking money from people for no reason. You are giving money to people for no reason. Then you are assuming that people will spend the money on "good corporations". Good business fail every day because they cannot compete with the bad ones. People will shop where it is cheap. All your plan does is give people free stuff from large corporations.
 
Everything is wrong with this. First you are taking money from people for no reason. You are giving money to people for no reason. Then you are assuming that people will spend the money on "good corporations". Good business fail every day because they cannot compete with the bad ones. People will shop where it is cheap. All your plan does is give people free stuff from large corporations.

Who cares those corporations dodge taxes and dick us all the time. Its our turn. The people need boost and we cant trust the government to spend our taxes right. So the people need a direct tax going direct to their bank account as a check and balance for modern times.
 
Who cares those corporations dodge taxes and dick us all the time. Its our turn. The people need boost and we cant trust the government to spend our taxes right. So the people need a direct tax going direct to their bank account as a check and balance for modern times.

No.....just no. You cannot just take money because you want it.
 
You can't give all the new wealth of a country to just a few golden few. Capitalism dies when the incentive of the possibility to get ahead is taken away. Which it has been the case since 1981. I would like the greatest most powerful richest country in the world, to stay capitalistic and a Republic. Not caring about the fact that the golden few get it all and in no way deserve it all is selling out my country.

We have Government. We really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States.
 
No.....just no. You cannot just take money because you want it.

Sure we can. They do it to us ALLLLL the damn time. And for all these HUGE corporations that end up paying 0$ in taxes.... It needs to be upped to 5% directly to the people. This is the only logical way to redistribute wealth. Small mom and pop shops are exempt but all corporate entities are taxed an unnegotiable 5%. Maybe this will lead corporations to establishing Co-ops with locals instead of just flushing them out of the market! They could even accept a monthy due for the mom&pops to be a part of the Co-op. All this will trickle money BACK TO THE PEOPLE.
 
Sure we can. They do it to us ALLLLL the damn time. And for all these HUGE corporations that end up paying 0$ in taxes.... It needs to be upped to 5% directly to the people. This is the only logical way to redistribute wealth. Small mom and pop shops are exempt but all corporate entities are taxed an unnegotiable 5%. Maybe this will lead corporations to establishing Co-ops with locals instead of just flushing them out of the market! They could even accept a monthy due for the mom&pops to be a part of the Co-op. All this will trickle money BACK TO THE PEOPLE.

No one takes your money. You pay taxes as a citizen. They are not the same thing. There are millions of people in the lower classes who pay nothing in taxes, and in fact pay a negative amount in taxes. There is no logical way to redistribute wealth. It is not acceptable to take money from someone just because they have more than you at all. I've already said it once before on this thread. Consumers determine where the money is going. If you want to see mom and pop stores making a larger share of the consumer spending then consumers need to shop there. It is stupid to expect that mom and pop stores get the money you spend at wal-mart and on amazon. If you feel like they have too much money - stop giving them money. And if you already don't, encourage others. This is a free market. Consumers rule it. If even 1/3rd of the 325 million people did the majority of their shopping in smaller locally owned businesses you'd see a large shift in the wealth disparity. But those consumers dont. Consumers want Walmart, Amazon, Pepsi ect to have all the money and it is their choice to make. Right or wrong - for better or worse - it is up to the consumers in America.
 
No one takes your money. You pay taxes as a citizen. They are not the same thing. There are millions of people in the lower classes who pay nothing in taxes, and in fact pay a negative amount in taxes. There is no logical way to redistribute wealth. It is not acceptable to take money from someone just because they have more than you at all. I've already said it once before on this thread. Consumers determine where the money is going. If you want to see mom and pop stores making a larger share of the consumer spending then consumers need to shop there. It is stupid to expect that mom and pop stores get the money you spend at wal-mart and on amazon. If you feel like they have too much money - stop giving them money. And if you already don't, encourage others. This is a free market. Consumers rule it. If even 1/3rd of the 325 million people did the majority of their shopping in smaller locally owned businesses you'd see a large shift in the wealth disparity. But those consumers dont. Consumers want Walmart, Amazon, Pepsi ect to have all the money and it is their choice to make. Right or wrong - for better or worse - it is up to the consumers in America.

So why can we sin-tax sugars and cigarettes but not greed? You may have double standards.
 
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Do you know what you are even talking about anymore? You want to tax mentalities and emotion?

No. Tax the raw profits of corporations who shove mom and pop shops of every town out of existence. Tax the profits of people who commonly pay 0% in taxes even though they made billions in profits. And to keep it out of the hands of bureaucracy by giving it directly to the people to spend how they see fit. We need checks and balances and right now corporations and corporate lobbying have a giant leverage on the average person. We need a direct balance. Which this 5% would definitely give. If corporations are gonna buy out our lobbyists at least let the people benefit from it too. Directly.
 
No. Tax the raw profits of corporations who shove mom and pop shops of every town out of existence. Tax the profits of people who commonly pay 0% in taxes even though they made billions in profits. And to keep it out of the hands of bureaucracy by giving it directly to the people to spend how they see fit. We need checks and balances and right now corporations and corporate lobbying have a giant leverage on the average person. We need a direct balance. Which this 5% would definitely give. If corporations are gonna buy out our lobbyists at least let the people benefit from it too. Directly.

A corporation does not have the authority to shove a mom and pop store out of a town. Legally they aren't allowed. They cannot force consumers to shop at their stores. They cannot force consumers to boycott mom and pop stores. All a corporation can do is open its doors. Consumers in this free country choose. Support your friends and neighbors or give money to billionaires. The choice is made millions of times a day. Sucks but you cannot just decide that because the poor can't stop themselves from giving money to the rich that you are going to force the rich to give money away for no reason.
 
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