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'Aspirin-a-day risky in old age' - major study

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45511362

Elderly people in good health should not take an aspirin a day, according to a major study in the US and Australia.

There are proven benefits of the drug for people after a heart attack or stroke.

But the trial found no benefit for healthy people over the age of 70, and the pills increased the risk of potentially fatal internal bleeding.
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I take an 81 mg 'baby' aspirin every AM as was prescribed for me by the attending doctor at a rehab center where I spent 3.5 weeks recovering from a smashed left femur. Gives me something else to bring up when I see my cardiologist this Monday.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45511362

Elderly people in good health should not take an aspirin a day, according to a major study in the US and Australia.

There are proven benefits of the drug for people after a heart attack or stroke.

But the trial found no benefit for healthy people over the age of 70, and the pills increased the risk of potentially fatal internal bleeding.
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I take an 81 mg 'baby' aspirin every AM as was prescribed for me by the attending doctor at a rehab center where I spent 3.5 weeks recovering from a smashed left femur. Gives me something else to bring up when I see my cardiologist this Monday.
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This is an example of why im ahainst socalized medicine. Some say take the asprin others say dont. Let me decide which competing opinion i wamt to side with.

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I also took 81 mg aspirin daily to help prevent colon cancer, which runs in my family...I was told after 10 years, the benefit reaches its peak so stop taking it...
 
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I have some currently undefined cardiovascular issues. The alternatives to aspirin are warfarin, Plavix, Eliquis & Xarelto. Warfarin (aka rat poison) requires you get stuck every week or so to check the levels. Eliquis & Xarelto are the latest, high-priced new generation blood thinners. My wife is on Xarelto & it's not cheap. Not certain about Plavix as I haven't looked into it yet. She had 2 DVTs so she had to scrub a trip to Lisbon last year. Now that she's on Xarelto she's going to Vienna next month. I guess that makes it worth the price.
 
Elvira said:
I also took 81 mg aspirin daily to help prevent colon cancer, which runs in my family...I was told after 10 years, the benefit reaches its peak so stop taking it...
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If you're over 40 you should look to have a colonoscopy.
 
trouble13 said:
This is an example of why im ahainst socalized medicine. Some say take the asprin others say dont. Let me decide which competing opinion i wamt to side with.

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What's that got to do with socialized medicine?
 
JacksinPA said:
I have some currently undefined cardiovascular issues. The alternatives to aspirin are warfarin, Plavix, Eliquis & Xarelto. Warfarin (aka rat poison) requires you get stuck every week or so to check the levels. Eliquis & Xarelto are the latest, high-priced new generation blood thinners. My wife is on Xarelto & it's not cheap. Not certain about Plavix as I haven't looked into it yet. She had 2 DVTs so she had to scrub a trip to Lisbon last year. Now that she's on Xarelto she's going to Vienna next month. I guess that makes it worth the price.
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I have thin old lady skin. It tears super easy and I bleed at the drop of a hat. I don't take aspirin, ever. It's great for those who need it though. Certainly much better than all the new, expensive drugs that will probably turn out to gave ghastly side effects.
 
Elvira said:
Had one last week...started when I was 45...this is my 5th...
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Smart lady should live a long time.

My anesthesia of choice: propofol. Knocks you right out, you wake up with no hangover.
 
JacksinPA said:
Smart lady should live a long time.

My anesthesia of choice: propofol. Knocks you right out, you wake up with no hangover.
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Best part of the whole thing...best sleep ever...my only complaint, it just does not last long enough...they're getting better at it all the time, mine lasted about an hour, from the last time I looked at the clock until they were waking me up...:2razz:
 
trouble13 said:
This is an example of why im ahainst socalized medicine. Some say take the asprin others say dont. Let me decide which competing opinion i wamt to side with.
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What's the connection between "socialized medicine" and this trial? How would "socialized medicine" force you to take aspirin?
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45511362

Elderly people in good health should not take an aspirin a day, according to a major study in the US and Australia.

There are proven benefits of the drug for people after a heart attack or stroke.

But the trial found no benefit for healthy people over the age of 70, and the pills increased the risk of potentially fatal internal bleeding.
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I take an 81 mg 'baby' aspirin every AM as was prescribed for me by the attending doctor at a rehab center where I spent 3.5 weeks recovering from a smashed left femur. Gives me something else to bring up when I see my cardiologist this Monday.
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Thirteen of those mother-****ers, and it'll be your last headache, to paraphrase Kat Williams.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45511362

Elderly people in good health should not take an aspirin a day, according to a major study in the US and Australia.

There are proven benefits of the drug for people after a heart attack or stroke.

But the trial found no benefit for healthy people over the age of 70, and the pills increased the risk of potentially fatal internal bleeding.
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I take an 81 mg 'baby' aspirin every AM as was prescribed for me by the attending doctor at a rehab center where I spent 3.5 weeks recovering from a smashed left femur. Gives me something else to bring up when I see my cardiologist this Monday.
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That is a potentially a dangerous article because it's ambiguous and presents aspirin as a culprit rather than a medicine that has prevented possibly millions of fatal heart attacks and embolisms. This is the type of article that people will read and think "omg! I have to stop aspirin or I'll die!" Here's the truth and I'll ask you to take my word on this because I've been a registered nurse for the greater part of my life. The risk of potential fatal bleeding is extremely remote unless a person has a stomach ulcer that begins to bleed, it would be more difficult to stop the bleeding. Let me put it this way.

Imagine that after years of painstaking research, scientists announced the development of a breakthrough treatment that costs pennies a pill, saves lives, and could reduce healthcare spending by nearly $700 billion in the coming years. And you wouldn’t even need a prescription to get it. You would think it was either a trick or a miracle because this all sounds too good to be true. But we already have such a drug: it’s called aspirin. Aspirin is possibly a wonder drug. Here's some facts about aspirin.

For people in the U.S. ages 51 to 79, routine aspirin use could, over a 20-year period:

prevent 11 cases of heart disease for every 1,000 persons
prevent four cases of cancer for every 1,000 persons
lengthen national life expectancy by about four months, allowing an extra 900,000 people to be alive in 2036
save $692 billion.

Aspirin has its downsides. Among other side effects, allergic reactions may occur. And, aspirin is a blood thinner and can irritate the stomach. As I've said, episodes of bleeding and stomach ulcers can be serious. Any dose larger than a 81 mg baby aspirin can present some problems and should only be used under the advise of your doctor, particularly if a person has a bleeding disorder or is taking other medications.
 
The most important finding for this study was
"Taking aspirin if you are otherwise healthy, over the age of 70, if you haven't had a previous heart attack or stroke, is really of very little benefit.
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We continue to learn. I work with cardiology group so am anxious to hear their response. For a long time the appropriate dose of aspirin was questionable.

I believe if aspirin was just now released as a medication I think it would be a prescription medication.
 
JustHanging said:
What's the connection between "socialized medicine" and this trial? How would "socialized medicine" force you to take aspirin?
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Well you know, socialized medication caused Hurricane Florence. :slapme:
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45511362

Elderly people in good health should not take an aspirin a day, according to a major study in the US and Australia.

There are proven benefits of the drug for people after a heart attack or stroke.

But the trial found no benefit for healthy people over the age of 70, and the pills increased the risk of potentially fatal internal bleeding.
===================================================
I take an 81 mg 'baby' aspirin every AM as was prescribed for me by the attending doctor at a rehab center where I spent 3.5 weeks recovering from a smashed left femur. Gives me something else to bring up when I see my cardiologist this Monday.
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There have been conflicting studies and results. I'm not going to start looking up specifics, recalling one which exhibit less cancers who follow the regimen, specifically colon cancers. Some, for the same reasons as those who have experienced atherosclerosis related issues reduced repititions, prevention is also a seen result. Aspirin works as blood thinner, part of the problem for those with negative bleeding results. We may be similar, but we are each unique and it follows we can react differently to the same medications. Were aspirin a new drug today, it is so powerful, it would be a controlled prescriptive medication.

Using aspirin has multiple plus possibilities, but patients dealing with more than a hangover, should learn how to recognize warnings of downside reactions. It is definitely not for those suffering internal ulcers.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45511362

Elderly people in good health should not take an aspirin a day, according to a major study in the US and Australia.

There are proven benefits of the drug for people after a heart attack or stroke.

But the trial found no benefit for healthy people over the age of 70, and the pills increased the risk of potentially fatal internal bleeding.
===================================================
I take an 81 mg 'baby' aspirin every AM as was prescribed for me by the attending doctor at a rehab center where I spent 3.5 weeks recovering from a smashed left femur. Gives me something else to bring up when I see my cardiologist this Monday.
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The reason you’re taking ASA is not for prevention of cardiac disease.

It to prevent thrombosis of the leg. Not cardiology related.
 
trouble13 said:
Socialized medicine is the anthisis to freedom of choosing how you live and die

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Seeing as how you, and most people on the Right don't even know what socialized medicine really is, and don't understand the difference between single payer and socialized medicine, why not just call it WACO MEDICINE?
Then you can demonize it and justify shooting people at the same time.
 
HumblePi said:
That is a potentially a dangerous article because it's ambiguous and presents aspirin as a culprit rather than a medicine that has prevented possibly millions of fatal heart attacks and embolisms. This is the type of article that people will read and think "omg! I have to stop aspirin or I'll die!" Here's the truth and I'll ask you to take my word on this because I've been a registered nurse for the greater part of my life. The risk of potential fatal bleeding is extremely remote unless a person has a stomach ulcer that begins to bleed, it would be more difficult to stop the bleeding. Let me put it this way.

Imagine that after years of painstaking research, scientists announced the development of a breakthrough treatment that costs pennies a pill, saves lives, and could reduce healthcare spending by nearly $700 billion in the coming years. And you wouldn’t even need a prescription to get it. You would think it was either a trick or a miracle because this all sounds too good to be true. But we already have such a drug: it’s called aspirin. Aspirin is possibly a wonder drug. Here's some facts about aspirin.

For people in the U.S. ages 51 to 79, routine aspirin use could, over a 20-year period:

prevent 11 cases of heart disease for every 1,000 persons
prevent four cases of cancer for every 1,000 persons
lengthen national life expectancy by about four months, allowing an extra 900,000 people to be alive in 2036
save $692 billion.

Aspirin has its downsides. Among other side effects, allergic reactions may occur. And, aspirin is a blood thinner and can irritate the stomach. As I've said, episodes of bleeding and stomach ulcers can be serious. Any dose larger than a 81 mg baby aspirin can present some problems and should only be used under the advise of your doctor, particularly if a person has a bleeding disorder or is taking other medications.
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I was actually there when this was presented.

This study isn’t definitive by itself- it is pretty weak and underpowered. But it adds to a large, and pretty clear body of evidence that shows ASA isn’t doing much for primary prevention of heart disease- and when combined with the big diabetes trial, that means ALL patients, even those at higher CV risk.

One issue is that CV prevention has really gotten better, primarily due to statin use, and aspirin might not be such a ‘wonder drug’ anymore now that we are better at preventing heart disease.

It still will probably work for high risk colon cancer prevention though, so there might still be a role in some healthy people.

After a heart attack or stroke though, ASA is still impressively effective.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Seeing as how you, and most people on the Right don't even know what socialized medicine really is, and don't understand the difference between single payer and socialized medicine, why not just call it WACO MEDICINE?
Then you can demonize it and justify shooting people at the same time.
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What a silly and intentionally inflammatory post, shameful garbage.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
What a silly and intentionally inflammatory post, shameful garbage.
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trouble13 said:
This is an example of why im ahainst socalized medicine. Some say take the asprin others say dont. Let me decide which competing opinion i wamt to side with.
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NO - - I don't think so.
Attempting to tie an aspirin study to socialized medicine is INFLAMMATORY.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
NO - - I don't think so.
Attempting to tie an aspirin study to socialized medicine is INFLAMMATORY.
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This was part of your post. Please....:roll:
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" why not just call it WACO MEDICINE?
Then you can demonize it and justify shooting people at the same time."
 
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