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Ruth Bader Ginsburg Criticizes Treatment Of Kavanaugh During SCOTUS Hearings..;

hanger4 said:
Public hearings for SC nominees didn't start until 1916, the first nominee to show up didn't happen until 1925. And the first televised hearing was 1981 on cable. Since 1981 Senator grandstanding became front and center. It wasn't anti- democratic before, why would it be now ??
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Maybe “anti-democratic” is the wrong word. But generally I think of openness and transparency of government as being more democratic. Admittedly, back in the days before 24 hr cable news and the internet, the difference between closed and open hearings was more negligible.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
It is a horribly viscious partisan cycle we find ourselves in. The Dems will cite Judge Garland’s treatment and they are 100% correct to be upset about that. So then the Dems go ultra-partisan when it is a Republican president’s turn. Do they think it will stop there? Do they think the Republicans will “learn their lesson”? No. Next time the Republicans will cite how hyperpartisan the Dems were being to excuse a new level of partisanship. Then the Dems will do it again and around and around we go.

We are cycling around and around and down and down, not unlike a toilet bowl flushing. I have no idea how we are going to overcome the inertia of our political trajectory.
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Garland wasn't given a confirmation hearing, there is NO comparison to what the Democrats are trying to do to Kvanaugh. Kagan and Sotomayor made it through their confirmation hearings and were confirmed by both Democrats and Republicans
 
Fenton said:
Garland wasn't given a confirmation hearing, there is NO comparison to what the Democrats are trying to do to Kvanaugh. Kagan and Sotomayor made it through their confirmation hearings and were confirmed by both Democrats and Republicans
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That is my point. Each time the behavior gets worse. Hyperpartisanship is escalating, not leveling out.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yep. Biden suggested it. Bad. Republicans actually did it. Worse. And that downward trajectory continues back and forth.
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Just like the harry reid 50+1 rule...which was heavily celebrated by the left...until they lost power.

The left reminds me of the Nazi's and their "Thousand year reich"...they governed, changed the rules and acted as if they would be in power forever. Until they weren't.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Okay here's some higher ground.
Kavanaugh is most likely getting in but you guys better not get too used to things going 100 percent your way for very long because Kavanaugh is probably the last RW SCOTUS justice you are going to seat for a generation.
So enjoy it while you can. You might sway the Court for five years at most.
There on out, you're outnumbered and out maneuvered in every election until maybe 2050, or longer.
You may very well wind up seeing three SCOTUS justices seated with the power to oppose ripped from your grasp, because you guys blew it up with the nuclear option already.

I don't blame the Democratic Party from doing all they can to add some friction to a well greased RNC slam dunk, but I realize Kavanaugh is getting in, but I also know that's the swan song for the Right for a very long time, and not just in the SCOTUS either.
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Reid, Democrats trigger ‘nuclear’ option; eliminate most filibusters on nominees
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d2ca728e67c_story.html?utm_term=.4e5b8e0f99e1

You realize Harry Reid is why the Republicans have access to the Nuclear option, dont you ?? And your projection of the GOPs imminent demise is awesome. Sounds like the pre-elections projections of Hillary winning by a landslide. Here's why Conservatives never have to worry about having " power stripped " from them.

Liberal Progressive policies dont actually DO what Democrats claim they do. Liberal policies dont fix income disparity, they create it. They dont grow the middle class economy, they destroy it and they dont grow the economy, they throw a huge wet blanket on free market economies.
Things dont get better under administrations like Obama's, they get much worse and that leads to staggering losses, like we saw from 2010-2016. Obama and Liberal economist told us that the economic stagnation we experienced under Obama was the new normal. We best get used to it. Free market Capitalism had finally run its course, and only massive stimulus and debt, and tax increases could get the economy going again.

Had Hillary won we would have been forced to listen to that nonsense for another 4 years, but she didn't. Trump showed everyone just how effective pro-growth policies are and that Obama's new normal was just his attempt at justifying his horrible economic record
 
itsforthekids said:
Just like the harry reid 50+1 rule...which was heavily celebrated by the left...until they lost power.

The left reminds me of the Nazi's and their "Thousand year reich"...they governed, changed the rules and acted as if they would be in power forever. Until they weren't.
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Our country has very little foresight. Corporations just care about the next current quarter and our politicians just care about the next election. They forget or just don’t care that what they do now lays the groundwork and precedent for what happens next.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
That is a depressing point, but if I am honest with myself I have already given up on our government. All I can do is the best I can to set myself and my family up for success despite our increasingly partisan and incompetent government.

The complicated question is: if I have no respect for our government, how can I have respect for the voters who put them in office or for the laws the politicians make? These things actually keep me up some nights.
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:( it would be a lie to say I have not wept.
 
Rogue Valley said:
RBG is what a SCOTUS nominee is supposed to be.

Not like Kavanaugh who refuses to answer questions by using the all-encompassing "hypothetical" duck.
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Short memory? RBG did the same thing..... Oh no.....


Ginsburg Set The Standard For Future SCOTUS Nominees: “No Forecasts, No Hints”

 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Okay here's some higher ground.
Kavanaugh is most likely getting in but you guys better not get too used to things going 100 percent your way for very long because Kavanaugh is probably the last RW SCOTUS justice you are going to seat for a generation.
So enjoy it while you can. You might sway the Court for five years at most.
There on out, you're outnumbered and out maneuvered in every election until maybe 2050, or longer.
You may very well wind up seeing three SCOTUS justices seated with the power to oppose ripped from your grasp, because you guys blew it up with the nuclear option already.

I don't blame the Democratic Party from doing all they can to add some friction to a well greased RNC slam dunk, but I realize Kavanaugh is getting in, but I also know that's the swan song for the Right for a very long time, and not just in the SCOTUS either.
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I am sure all are oh so very scared by your silly wishful dreaming. :lamo
 
Gaius46 said:
I think the Dems are nuts. They really think they're gonna get someone more to their liking if the torpedo this nomination? Kavanaugh is qualified and his opinions aren't out of the mainstream - he and Garland agreed on the vast majority of cases that came before the court.
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Depending on what else they do, it might not be an entirely unreasonable strategy if the vote gets pushed back to beyond the elections. If they luck out, the gamble would pay off.



I also meant my comment more generally.
 
Mr Person said:
Depending on what else they do, it might not be an entirely unreasonable strategy if the vote gets pushed back to beyond the elections. If they luck out, the gamble would pay off.



I also meant my comment more generally.
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Democrats should be relied upon to try every trick in the book to keep a non-commie lefty from being appointed to SCOTUS, no matter how crooked, dishonest or dirty. That is what they do. The continued existence of their corrupt party depends on it.
 
Amelia said:
My eyes and ears are working just fine.

There's a reason I'm not a Democrat.


But there's an even bigger reason that for the foreseeable future I'll be doing all I can to help Democrats hold the line against the new Putin-loving GOP.
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Huh?

Two Russian Spies Charged in Massive Yahoo Hack
"Federal authorities have charged four men, one of whom was taken into custody Tuesday in Canada"

Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act
"into law the “Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act,” which enacts new sanctions on Iran, North Korea, and Russia. I favor tough measures to punish and deter bad behavior by the rogue regimes in Tehran and Pyongyang. I also support making clear that America will not tolerate interference in our democratic process, and that we will side with our allies and friends against Russian subversion and destabilization."

Kaspersky Lab Antivirus Software Is Ordered Off U.S. Government Computers
"WASHINGTON — The federal government moved on Wednesday to wipe from its computer systems any software made by a prominent Russian cybersecurity firm, Kaspersky Lab, that is being investigated by the F.B.I. for possible links to Russian security services."

U.S. Hits Russian Missile Designer With Export Restrictions

Cardin, McCain Prod Trump Administration to Use Global Magnitsky Tools to Punish Human Rights Violators and Corrupt Officials
Presidential Memorandum for the Secretary of State and the Secretary of the Treasury

US will provide anti-tank weapons to Ukraine

the U.S. Department of the Treasury delivered a report identifying senior political figures and oligarchs in the Russian Federation.

A senior U.S. general appears to have confirmed that hundreds of Russians fought – and died – in a major battle against American forces and their local counterparts in Syria.

Lets contrast all those actions against the interests of Russia with this:

Did Obama Pledge ‘More Flexibility’ Toward Russia After the 2012 Election?

Obama abandons missile defence shield in Europe

Obama scraps Bush missile-defense plan

Obama Has Let Putin Overtake America’s Nuclear Defense
 
akyron said:
This administration is ten times harder on Russia misbehavior than the last one.

[h=1]US and Poland strike $10.5 billion missile defense deal[/h]
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Whatever we are currently doing, Trump is being dragged to it. Taking credit for it later. But fighting it along the way.

Trump refuses to impose new Russia sanctions despite law passed by US Congress over election hacking[/url[

[url=https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wanted-to-expel-fewer-russian-diplomats-2018-4]Trump was reportedly furious that his administration was portrayed as tough on Russia after expelling diplomats from the US



And before you quibble with the "was reportedly" part of that headline, we all know what we have seen with our own eyes with Trump fawning over Putin.




Obama screwed up a lot. If he hadn't, we wouldn't have Trump. But as bad as Obama was, Republicans are worse. That is why I am no longer a Republican. And your wall of links does nothing to convince me that I was wrong in leaving the hypocritical, Trump-enabling party. And does nothing to convince me not to fight against them in every way I can for the foreseeable future.
 
Amelia said:
Whatever we are currently doing, Trump is being dragged to it. Taking credit for it later. But fighting it along the way.

Trump refuses to impose new Russia sanctions despite law passed by US Congress over election hacking[/url[

[url=https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wanted-to-expel-fewer-russian-diplomats-2018-4]Trump was reportedly furious that his administration was portrayed as tough on Russia after expelling diplomats from the US



And before you quibble with the "was reportedly" part of that headline, we all know what we have seen with our own eyes with Trump fawning over Putin.


Obama screwed up a lot. If he hadn't, we wouldn't have Trump. But as bad as Obama was, Republicans are worse. That is why I am no longer a Republican. And your wall of links does nothing to convince me that I was wrong in leaving the hypocritical, Trump-enabling party. And does nothing to convince me not to fight against them in every way I can for the foreseeable future.
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Same article

"Targeted expulsions like the one announced this week are not uncommon. When former President Barack Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats in response to Russia's interference in the 2016 US election, the move was made under similar conditions. "

So the current administration dumped twice as many as the previous.

I would expect the president to not be happy as an attempt to normalize relations is interrupted with the need to slap them with more sanctions.

I find myself forced to vote republican as the green party is somewhat insane and the democrats have raped the country for near two centuries. Only the constitutionalists seem rational at this point. Most others seem purely self interested.

 
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